Should Islam symbols and pray be allowed in public schools?

[Donray]

Should Islam symbols and pray be allowed in public schools?

Since most Christians think that Christian symbols and pray should be allowed in public schools, do these Christians think equal rights should be given to Muslims?

Would you be alright with both a Christian and Muslin pray be a football game? Are you OK with both a Christian pray followed by a Muslim pray in the classroom?

Are you OK with the crescent moon and star being placed next to the Christian cross in all public places?

What about the Jewish religion? Should that also have a place in the public schools?

[East of Eden]

If some want the constitution changed, the way to do it is through the Amendment process, not a bunch of activist judges.

The Judicial Branch does not change the constitution. They interpret what it means.

And I hope you agree, they can and have done that wrongly.

I am unaware of the details of that decision. If it was that the court absolutely banned the publication and distribution of a religious flyer, then it would have been an infringement of freedom of speech.

Speaking of bad judicial decisions, that is exactly what happened. I have another thread going on that subject.

[dusk]

I think we should also start again with the HJ and pay our respects to the Führer and people may opt out if they want to. Also we should stop this whole brain washing about the Nazi's having done so much wrongs in history. All this Jew-Agenda. Why this focus on concentration camps when Hitler did so much great stuff and the German army was really good and very effective we should spend more time focusing on their accomplishments. The Neo-Nazi youth wants to be allowed to wave there flag again.

I think national socialsim is really discriminated against in public schools. And that agenda in history lessons must be stopped.


{it's sarcasm in response to the "gay agenda"}

[East of Eden]

I think we should also start again with the HJ and pay our respects to the Führer and people may opt out if they want to. Also we should stop this whole brain washing about the Nazi's having done so much wrongs in history. All this Jew-Agenda. Why this focus on concentration camps when Hitler did so much great stuff and the German army was really good and very effective we should spend more time focusing on their accomplishments. The Neo-Nazi youth wants to be allowed to wave there flag again.

I think national socialsim is really discriminated against in public schools. And that agenda in history lessons must be stopped.


{it's sarcasm in response to the "gay agenda"}

Nice, you equate traditional understandings of marriage with the Nazis. You manage to pull off insults and a non-sequiter at the same time.

[JoeyKnothead]

From Post 22:

Nice, you equate traditional understandings of marriage with the Nazis. You manage to pull off insults and a non-sequiter at the same time.

I propose that in stating or implying this equating to be in error, one'd be far more effective in explaining why it fails.

One's inability to 'sequiter' why another's equating is relevant is nothing more'n an indicator of their own inability to 'sequiter'.

[marketandchurch]

The issue isn't whether students are allowed to pray at school or bring religious symbols or texts into the classroom. The issue is whether public schools should require and lead prayer, and host religious symbols and texts themselves. Students are free to pray or read their bible so long as they don't interrupt the learning of others, or the teaching of instructors.

Muslims should be allowed to do the same in schools. They should not be allowed, however, to lead a school in muslim prayer, unless it is a private school, and not public.

And be it a street corner, or at a city park, the issue of religious expression in a public place is not an issue of legality, but one of decency and appropriateness. If one is offended at seeing a muslim engaging in prayer at a city park, that's your problem, not there's. But if that muslim is being loud and obnoxious and heckling others about the fate that awaits one who doesn't come to Allah, then that crosses basic civic standards, and they are in the wrong. Replace Muslim with traveling salesman, or those green-peace students who are always harassing you to help them save the world, and you get the point.

[dusk]

Nice, you equate traditional understandings of marriage with the Nazis. You manage to pull off insults and a non-sequiter at the same time.

You don't seem to understand what I equate. I equate the way and reason WHY things should be taught. You call it a gay agenda if they teach children that it isn't okay to mistreat homosexuals and that they shouldn't hate themselves or their sexuality if they are gay. Because your bible tells you it is all wrong we should tell every child the creed of your religion and not inform it that a modern civilized society would hold it differently and our secular laws especially do. The Nazis had their own creed and tried not to have people confused with too much other information lest the people may get confused about their truths.

I fail to see how a non-sequitur is in any way applicable. There ought to be some conclusio based on the wrong conditio. There isn't much concluding other than stating facts if you ask me. My argumentation is flawless on the surface. For the underneath you are responsible. It is a persiflage and ergo does not try to be, well, wise and rational.

[connermt]

Should Islam symbols and pray be allowed in public schools?

Since most Christians think that Christian symbols and pray should be allowed in public schools, do these Christians think equal rights should be given to Muslims?

Would you be alright with both a Christian and Muslin pray be a football game? Are you OK with both a Christian pray followed by a Muslim pray in the classroom?

Are you OK with the crescent moon and star being placed next to the Christian cross in all public places?

What about the Jewish religion? Should that also have a place in the public schools?

If one religion is allowed, all should be. If one isn't, none should be.
Personally, I vote for NONE.

[myth-one.com]

Should Islam symbols and pray be allowed in public schools?

Since most Christians think that Christian symbols and pray should be allowed in public schools, do these Christians think equal rights should be given to Muslims?

Would you be alright with both a Christian and Muslin pray be a football game? Are you OK with both a Christian pray followed by a Muslim pray in the classroom?

Are you OK with the crescent moon and star being placed next to the Christian cross in all public places?

What about the Jewish religion? Should that also have a place in the public schools?

Church and state should be separate. No symbols and prayers of any religion should be allowed in public schools unless it is necessary in teaching a course -- such as history.

The "great commission" commands Christians to spread the gospel among all nations:

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. (Matthew 28:19-20)

When Christians use political and finantial influence in an effort to force their religion on the general public, it is just one more sign that their efforts in spreading the Gospel message has failed.

The same applies to "In God we trust" on our money. In God we trust is a lie, if "we" refers to all of us. If it refers to a majority of us, then it is another example of the majority using the government in an effort to force religion upon a minority.

[East of Eden]

Should Islam symbols and pray be allowed in public schools?

Since most Christians think that Christian symbols and pray should be allowed in public schools, do these Christians think equal rights should be given to Muslims?

Would you be alright with both a Christian and Muslin pray be a football game? Are you OK with both a Christian pray followed by a Muslim pray in the classroom?

Are you OK with the crescent moon and star being placed next to the Christian cross in all public places?

What about the Jewish religion? Should that also have a place in the public schools?

Church and state should be separate. No symbols and prayers of any religion should be allowed in public schools unless it is necessary in teaching a course -- such as history.

You mean prayers like they do in Congress and the Supreme Court?

The "great commission" commands Christians to spread the gospel among all nations:

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. (Matthew 28:19-20)

When Christians use political and finantial influence in an effort to force their religion on the general public, it is just one more sign that their efforts in spreading the Gospel message has failed.

The same applies to "In God we trust" on our money. In God we trust is a lie, if "we" refers to all of us. If it refers to a majority of us, then it is another example of the majority using the government in an effort to force religion upon a minority.

In God We Trust isn't evangelization, it is a statement of fact for the religious majority and the Founders for that matter. No Christian denomination is thereby established by this motto.

[McCulloch]

In God We Trust isn't evangelization, it is a statement of fact for the religious majority and the Founders for that matter.

All of the founders or just some of them? Can you find any official reference to this phrase prior to 1814?

No Christian denomination is thereby established by this motto.

And this is important because the first amendment says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of any Christian denomination." Right?