calvinism

[justifyothers]

As some of you may know, I left my last church over three years ago because I could not accept the doctrine of calvinism.

I still have some friends from that church, and usually we do not discuss doctrine, but one thing lead to another and there we were in that same ol argument. However- my friend's husband threw a new one at me. He made this excuse for the ugly god of calvinism:

He said that everything is 'predetermined' until that moment of accepting/rejecting God. At that time, freewill kicks in and the choice is ours, even though god knows how we will choose. I have never heard such nonsense before and I was wondering if anyone else has heard this theory, or if he just made it up on the spot.

[DeBunkem]

Miguel Servetus was not given free will to keep his anti-Trinitarian beliefs. Calvin's true nature came out when he copied the Inquisition and had him burned at the stake.

[Jonah]

Burning folks at the stake and bragging ad nauseum about it, as Calvin did, is a lot of sinning. So, by Calvinistic standards, Calvin himself wasn't elect. Obviously. As he roasts in hell right now, I bet he wishes he'd gone into another line of work opened up by the Reformation. Retail doesn't pay much. But, you meet a lot of nice people.