Special Creation
It is a misconception to say that the Jewish People are God's Chosen People. If we really ponder on the matter, the Jews do not claim such a title on themselves. It is usually claimed by others, especially Christians, and usually from a hostile point of view.
For a people to be chosen, they must be picked out from among a group of other peoples. That's definitely not what happened to the Jewish People.
According to Genesis 6:5, the Flood had become inevitable because Mankind had corrupted the earth. After the Flood, Elohim promised Noah that He would never allow another catastrophe of that size again to hit all Mankind. (Gen. 8:21) But what about if Mankind did corrupt the earth again?
That's when Elohim decided to effect a new and special creation and not to wait and choose a people from among a group of peoples. Israel was therefore in the designs of God many years before she was actually born with the purpose to guarantee God's promise to Noah.
Jeremiah, under prophetical inspiration, declared that if Israel ever ceases as a People before the Lord forever, the natural laws will cease to work properly, which would cause the eruption of catastrophes anywhere or everywhere to threaten the whole of Mankind. (Jer. 31:35-37)
Therefore, we should stop the myth that the Jewish People are God's Chosen People, and rather think of them as a Special Creation for a specific Divine purpose.
Ben
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kayky wrote:That's a good idea. I'm always curious about what leads people to certain religious beliefs.
Do you have any?
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kayky wrote:That's a good idea. I'm always curious about what leads people to certain religious beliefs.
This flippant response is in violation of forum rules. If you have nothing constructive to add to the discussion, then you should remain silent.Ben Masada wrote:Do you have any?
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Post #24Ben Masada wrote:Special Creation
It is a misconception to say that the Jewish People are God's Chosen People. If we really ponder on the matter, the Jews do not claim such a title on themselves. It is usually claimed by others, especially Christians, and usually from a hostile point of view.
For a people to be chosen, they must be picked out from among a group of other peoples. That's definitely not what happened to the Jewish People.
According to Genesis 6:5, the Flood had become inevitable because Mankind had corrupted the earth. After the Flood, Elohim promised Noah that He would never allow another catastrophe of that size again to hit all Mankind. (Gen. 8:21) But what about if Mankind did corrupt the earth again?
That's when Elohim decided to effect a new and special creation and not to wait and choose a people from among a group of peoples. Israel was therefore in the designs of God many years before she was actually born with the purpose to guarantee God's promise to Noah.
Jeremiah, under prophetical inspiration, declared that if Israel ever ceases as a People before the Lord forever, the natural laws will cease to work properly, which would cause the eruption of catastrophes anywhere or everywhere to threaten the whole of Mankind. (Jer. 31:35-37)
Therefore, we should stop the myth that the Jewish People are God's Chosen People, and rather think of them as a Special Creation for a specific Divine purpose.
Ben
Being 95% Of The So-called Authors / Religious Scholar / Theologian Are Written By Jewish Could That Be The Reson ? Oh By The Way Didn't You Make This Statement Here The Mark of the Beast Post # 93 ..
Here a question for you what is the meaning of the word jew and where did it come from . Think before you post your answer ok
If you can let be Adult's about this ok , Meaning just because we may disgree doesn't mean I'm anti- jewish / antissemitic . Thats geting old beside that a trick to change the subject .
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You mean he needs to be reminded that he might be wrong from time to time ?kayky wrote:kayky wrote: He tends to take his religion a little too literally and needs to be reminded of this from time to time.I mean that his belief about the literal truth of the Old Testament is incorrect. Of course, he is free to have incorrect beliefs if he so chooses. But on a debate board, he should expect those incorrect beliefs to be challenged.BirdOfPrey wrote:Are you suggesting he should look upon his religion discrediting it as tribal or something that ought not be taken too literally or seriously, while still believing in it ? You mean, believe in whatever you want as long as you don't actually believe it, for the sake of "believing" perhaps ?
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Post #26kayky wrote:That's a good idea. I'm always curious about what leads people to certain religious beliefs.
Most people follow their mother& father / family religious belief , Or after they hit rock bottom they find God LOLOLOLOLOL . But the bottom line here ( Until Some One Introduce To God Them , God Didn't Exist To Them ) .
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Post #27kayky wrote:That's a good idea. I'm always curious about what leads people to certain religious beliefs.
I know that LOL stands for Laugh Out Loud. What does LOLOLOLOLOL mean? If it is an extended version of LOL, then what is it that you find humorous? Or is this just your way of expressing derision?Kadmon wrote:Most people follow their mother& father / family religious belief , Or after they hit rock bottom they find God LOLOLOLOLOL .
You seem to have gotten it right. Until someone convinces you, when you are at a weak point in your life, that God exists, it seems that God does not exist. What does that say about the objective truth of God's existence?Kadmon wrote:But the bottom line here ( Until Some One Introduce To God Them , God Didn't Exist To Them ) .
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
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Post #28McCulloch wrote:kayky wrote:That's a good idea. I'm always curious about what leads people to certain religious beliefs.I know that LOL stands for Laugh Out Loud. What does LOLOLOLOLOL mean? If it is an extended version of LOL, then what is it that you find humorous? Or is this just your way of expressing derision?Kadmon wrote:Most people follow their mother& father / family religious belief , Or after they hit rock bottom they find God LOLOLOLOLOL .
You seem to have gotten it right. Until someone convinces you, when you are at a weak point in your life, that God exists, it seems that God does not exist. What does that say about the objective truth of God's existence?Kadmon wrote:But the bottom line here ( Until Some One Introduce To God Them , God Didn't Exist To Them ) .
McCulloch < Says > I know that LOL stands for Laugh Out Loud. What does LOLOLOLOLOL mean? If it is an extended version of LOL, then what is it that you find humorous? Or is this just your way of expressing derision?
Kadmon < Says > I Laugh because find you funny , And you're takeing this to personal a sign of Insecurity . You also have this need to prove how Intelligent you're . When it matter not to me because it only discussion nomore noless .
McCulloch < Says >You seem to have gotten it right. Until someone convinces you, when you are at a weak point in your life, that God exists, it seems that God does not exist. What does that say about the objective truth of God's existence?
Kadmon < Says > Now your assumeing LOLOLOLOL This Is A Fact Most people follow their mother& father / family religious belief , Or after they hit rock bottom they find God LOLOLOLOLOL . ( But the bottom line here ( Until Some One Introduce To God Them , God Didn't Exist To Them ) . Point Being The Helping Hand Everyone LQQking For Is At The End Of Their Arm . But Hey To Each To His / Hers Own Right ?
Here A Question For You Ok ???? Where Did God Come From ? Please No Long Testimony , Meaning Given By Some Christian To Make Other Think They Are More Closer To God Then They're . The Question Is Only If You Believe / Accept The Existen Of God . Then When Get Back To Subject Ok
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Post #29McCulloch wrote:kayky wrote:That's a good idea. I'm always curious about what leads people to certain religious beliefs.I know that LOL stands for Laugh Out Loud. What does LOLOLOLOLOL mean? If it is an extended version of LOL, then what is it that you find humorous? Or is this just your way of expressing derision?Kadmon wrote:Most people follow their mother& father / family religious belief , Or after they hit rock bottom they find God LOLOLOLOLOL .
You seem to have gotten it right. Until someone convinces you, when you are at a weak point in your life, that God exists, it seems that God does not exist. What does that say about the objective truth of God's existence?Kadmon wrote:But the bottom line here ( Until Some One Introduce To God Them , God Didn't Exist To Them ) .
McCulloch < Says > I know that LOL stands for Laugh Out Loud. What does LOLOLOLOLOL mean? If it is an extended version of LOL, then what is it that you find humorous? Or is this just your way of expressing derision?
Kadmon < Says > I Laugh because find you funny , And you're takeing this to personal a sign of Insecurity . You also have this need to prove how Intelligent you're . When it matter not to me because it only discussion nomore noless .
McCulloch < Says >You seem to have gotten it right. Until someone convinces you, when you are at a weak point in your life, that God exists, it seems that God does not exist. What does that say about the objective truth of God's existence?
Kadmon < Says > Now your assumeing LOLOLOLOL This Is A Fact Most people follow their mother& father / family religious belief , Or after they hit rock bottom they find God LOLOLOLOLOL . ( But the bottom line here ( Until Some One Introduce To God Them , God Didn't Exist To Them ) . Point Being The Helping Hand Everyone LQQking For Is At The End Of Their Arm .
Here A Question For You Ok ???? Where Did God Come From ? Please No Long Testimony , Meaning Given By Some Christian To Make Other Think They Are More Closer To God Then They're . The Question Is Only If You Believe / Accept The Existen Of God . Then When Get Back To Subject Ok
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Post #30Do you think I might have a career in stand up?Kadmon wrote:McCulloch < Says > I know that LOL stands for Laugh Out Loud. What does LOLOLOLOLOL mean? If it is an extended version of LOL, then what is it that you find humorous? Or is this just your way of expressing derision?
Kadmon < Says > I Laugh because find you funny
Just asking. It seemed to be a possibility to me.Kadmon wrote:And you're takeing this to personal a sign of Insecurity.
Yes, I do. However, this is not the place for me to seek that kind of proof.Kadmon wrote:You also have this need to prove how Intelligent you're .
I am an atheist. I believe that God came from our collective speculative imaginations. So, let's get back to the subject. OK?Kadmon wrote:McCulloch < Says >You seem to have gotten it right. Until someone convinces you, when you are at a weak point in your life, that God exists, it seems that God does not exist. What does that say about the objective truth of God's existence?
Kadmon < Says > Now your assumeing LOLOLOLOL This Is A Fact Most people follow their mother& father / family religious belief , Or after they hit rock bottom they find God LOLOLOLOLOL . ( But the bottom line here ( Until Some One Introduce To God Them , God Didn't Exist To Them ) . Point Being The Helping Hand Everyone LQQking For Is At The End Of Their Arm .
Here A Question For You Ok ???? Where Did God Come From ? Please No Long Testimony , Meaning Given By Some Christian To Make Other Think They Are More Closer To God Then They're . The Question Is Only If You Believe / Accept The Existen Of God . Then When Get Back To Subject Ok
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John