[MissKate13]

[Diogenes]

This entire discussion about the 144,000 and the JW's, and the special status of whomever, seems to me the exact opposite of what Jesus taught. It reminds me of the disciples' quarrels about who was greatest among them. In any event, this discussion is a perfect example of the kind of thing that drives people FAR from the church. It is hard to think of a discussion that is more divisive and contrary to the spirit of Jesus trying to get his lambs into the fold. viewtopic.php?p=1120072#p1120072

[MissKate13]

[MissKate13]

This entire discussion about the 144,000 and the JW's, and the special status of whomever, seems to me the exact opposite of what Jesus taught. It reminds me of the disciples' quarrels about who was greatest among them. In any event, this discussion is a perfect example of the kind of thing that drives people FAR from the church. It is hard to think of a discussion that is more divisive and contrary to the spirit of Jesus trying to get his lambs into the fold. viewtopic.php?p=1120072#p1120072

There are not two classes of Christians taught in Scripture where one rules over the other. That is false teaching. Watchtower is all about power and control.

[MissKate13]

[MissKate13]

[MissKate13]

There are not two destinations for christians or two classes of Christians with one class ruling over the other according to the Scriptures.

Dan 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

Rev 5:9-10 And they *sang a new song, saying, "Worthy are You to take the book and to break its seals; for You were slain, and purchased for God with Your blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation. (10) "You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God; and they will reign upon the earth."

Rev 2:25-26 Only hold on to what you have until I come. (26) To him who overcomes and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations

Mat 25:20-21 The man who had received the five talents brought the other five. 'Master,' he said, 'you entrusted me with five talents. See, I have gained five more.' (21) His master replied, 'Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness!'

1Co 6:1-3 Does any one of you, when he has a case against his neighbor, dare to go to law before the unrighteous and not before the saints? (2) Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts? (3) Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life?

2Ti 2:12 If we endure, we will also reign with Him; If we deny Him, He also will deny us;

Luk 22:28-30 "You are those who have stood by Me in My trials; (29) and just as My Father has granted Me a kingdom, I grant you (30) that you may eat and drink at My table in My kingdom, and you will sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Gal 4:7 So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir.

1Pe 1:3-4 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, (4) and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade--kept in heaven for you,

[tam]

[MissKate13]

[2timothy316]

This entire discussion about the 144,000 and the JW's, and the special status of whomever, seems to me the exact opposite of what Jesus taught. It reminds me of the disciples' quarrels about who was greatest among them. In any event, this discussion is a perfect example of the kind of thing that drives people FAR from the church. It is hard to think of a discussion that is more divisive and contrary to the spirit of Jesus trying to get his lambs into the fold. viewtopic.php?p=1120072#p1120072

There are not two classes of Christians taught in Scripture where one rules over the other. That is false teaching. Watchtower is all about power and control.

I fail to see what gives people that print a magazine control and power? They don't have anyway to force me or any JW to do anything. So Power and control over what?

[MissKate13]