YHWH Allah

[Garry Denke]

What is the Judeo-Christian-Islamic name of the Creator?

The Holy Bible-Qur'an names YHWH Allah.

YHWH Allah = LORD God?

[ken1burton]

Have you ever read the Jewish Holy Scriptures? Do you see what God said to Israel about joining themselves to other people? Joining themselves to non-Jews for peace is not an option for Israel. You might list some Jews who think that is a good idea, But God does not seem to think it is. God said SEPARATE, God meant SEPARATE.

Now if Palestinians wish to become Jewish, That is allowed under Jewish law. Just don’t bring Allah with you.

God is still working with Israel, And they will see the Messiah through Scripture in 21 more years, Then they will convert almost all of mankind, That is seen in Ezekiel Chapter 47. The Sea healed is Israel sees the Messiah. Also seen as the waters covering the sea.

Isaiah 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

Habakkuk 2:14 For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

Ezekiel 47:8 Then said he unto me, These waters issue out toward the east country, and go down into the desert, and go into the sea: which being brought forth into the sea, the waters shall be healed.
9 And it shall come to pass, that every thing that liveth, which moveth, whithersoever the rivers shall come, shall live: and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come thither: for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live whither the river cometh.
10 And it shall come to pass, that the fishers shall stand upon it from Engedi even unto Eneglaim; they shall be a place to spread forth nets; their fish shall be according to their kinds, as the fish of the great sea, exceeding many.
11 But the miry places thereof and the marishes thereof shall not be healed; they shall be given to salt.

Just a few holdouts so we do not put the Scriptures away. Israel will show the world the Messiah, Christianity will not be showing Israel the Messiah. Christianity did not go by the Prophecies God foretold, That is where they went astray. The Church age will end, as Israel sees the Messiah.

Ken

[Garry Denke]

Have you ever read the Jewish Holy Scriptures?

No, what are "Jewish Holy Scriptures"?

Do you see what God said to Israel about joining themselves to other people?

No, do you have any other questions?

G-D

[Garry Denke]

Not to destroy you through knowledge, but the YHWH of reference in the Tanach was not a man-made idol that is quoted in the Qu'ran as the enemy of the people God called His people (Jews). That invention of sand pirates doesn't exist except in the minds of the deluded. "Allah" stands for the enemies of the God of the Bible, existing in the imaginations of men who had their beginnings among desert dwellers having too much sun on their heads.

Moses says YHWH Allah is the Creator.
Jesus says YHWH Allah is the Creator.
Muhammad says YHWH Allah is the Creator.

ال�اتحة

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
الحمد لله رب العالمين
الرحمن الرحيم
ملك يوم الدين
اياك نعبد واياك نستعين
اهدنا الصرط المستقيم
صراط الذين انعمت عليهم غير المغضوب عليهم ولا الضالين

The Opening

1. In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful:
2. All praise be to YHWH Allah, the Creator of the Worlds.
3. The Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
4. Master of the Day of Judgement.
5. You alone we worship, and You alone we ask for help.
6. Guide us to the straight way;
7. The way of those whom you have blessed, not of those who have deserved anger, nor of those who stray.

G-D

[Word_Swordsman]

Gary, "Allah" is no more a person than a hog I saw at the county fair with "ALLAH" painted on both sides of the beast. Moses had nothing to do with hogs or your imaginary friend named "Allah". He referred to Yehovah 'Elohiym (Lord God) in the OT, not some creation of a heat-stroked desert pirate. Ya'll Muslims need to give up on that thing and go Jew or Christian.

[ken1burton]

Garry Denke

The Jewish Holy Scriptures is what Christians call the old Testament. They are what God speaking to Israel said.

Allah said He gave the People the Book (Holy Scriptures to the Jews) and the Gospel to the followers of Jesus (New Testament) that they are true. NOW, There is no reason you have not read them both. Allah said He sent them and they are true.

There is no reason for a Jewish person to read the New Testament or the Quran, and no reason for a Christian not to read the Old Testament or Jewish Holy Scriptures as Jesus said those Scriptures are what testified of Him. Christians have no reason to read the Quran.

But those of Islam should read all three Books which Allah said He sent.

Ken

[McCulloch]

Gary, "Allah" is no more a person than a hog I saw at the county fair with "ALLAH" painted on both sides of the beast. Moses had nothing to do with hogs or your imaginary friend named "Allah". He referred to Yehovah 'Elohiym (Lord God) in the OT, not some creation of a heat-stroked desert pirate. Ya'll Muslims need to give up on that thing and go Jew or Christian.

I have been told that Arab speaking Christians use the word Allah as English speaking Christians use the word God. Allah is God. You might think that the Muslims have the wrong ideas about this God, as you believe that the Jews and the Mormons and the Unitarians do. But that does not change that God is Allah.

[Word_Swordsman]

Gary, "Allah" is no more a person than a hog I saw at the county fair with "ALLAH" painted on both sides of the beast. Moses had nothing to do with hogs or your imaginary friend named "Allah". He referred to Yehovah 'Elohiym (Lord God) in the OT, not some creation of a heat-stroked desert pirate. Ya'll Muslims need to give up on that thing and go Jew or Christian.

I have been told that Arab speaking Christians use the word Allah as English speaking Christians use the word God. Allah is God. You might think that the Muslims have the wrong ideas about this God, as you believe that the Jews and the Mormons and the Unitarians do. But that does not change that God is Allah.

They are in error. Because they might use that name doesn't make it so. No Muslim would apply "Allah" to the Judeo/Christian God, clearly referring to another subject not represented in the Bible unless speaking of false gods in the Bible such as Beelzebub or Baal. The Muslim "deity" labeled Allah identifies a total opposition to the nature and holiness of Jehovah, the Father God of the Bible.

[Word_Swordsman]

Garry Denke

The Jewish Holy Scriptures is what Christians call the old Testament. They are what God speaking to Israel said.

Allah said He gave the People the Book (Holy Scriptures to the Jews) and the Gospel to the followers of Jesus (New Testament) that they are true. NOW, There is no reason you have not read them both. Allah said He sent them and they are true.

There is no reason for a Jewish person to read the New Testament or the Quran, and no reason for a Christian not to read the Old Testament or Jewish Holy Scriptures as Jesus said those Scriptures are what testified of Him. Christians have no reason to read the Quran.

But those of Islam should read all three Books which Allah said He sent. Ken

Many Muslims do get around to that and are converting to Christianity once they witness the brutality in the Qu'ran that has no sunset clause. The Tanach has some events of brutality against enemies of Israel, but all are within the boundaries of war in general except perhaps "liberal" views of elements of warfare. There came an end in the OT of such actions by God, even to the allowance of the Roman Empire to disperse Israel. The Qu'ran orders genocide of "infidels" by Muslims with no end in sight until all "infidels" are wiped off the globe, even if that requires destruction of all Muslims. It promotes slavery of "infidels" and/or punitive taxation, etc., and no mercy shown. The Bible, however, describes a holy God who goes after unrighteousness, occasionally taking action against people endangering the common civil good. He is also known to allow men to bring upon themselves region & world-wide misery without an express action to stop it, as men on earth have been given dominion over their affairs. In the New Testament that same holy God teaches men to pray for their enemies while avoiding those who threaten a Christian community, marking them as false teachers, false prophets. Jehovah God is infinitely more merciful and just than any "Allah" could hope to be.

It is ludicrous any assertion the Muslim "god" had anything to do with the Jewish or Christian Bible, that making "Allah" out to be a confused fool that can't keep up with what he commands. Any officer in a military found to be issuing a plethora of greatly conflicting orders would be removed from duty pending a mental exam. You should fire "Allah" and replace him with Jehovah, who never changes his basic personality or holiness standard.

[ken1burton]

Word_Swordsman.

God blinded the Jewish people from seeing Jesus as the Messiah for awhile, But the cute part is Jesus blinded the Disciples from seeing the Truth of God’s prophecies, and God sealed Jesus the same way. Islam thinks they can see God, But God has them sealed from seeing also.

The Quran says the same things the Jewish Scriptures say, and that is that Jesus is the Begotten Son of God. But God keeps hiding things. Israel will be seeing Jesus is the Messiah. They will accept Jesus as the Christ in 2029 A.D. And that is based on the cross being 29 A.D.

We try to slay infidels also, It is called Converting them, and that is what Islam is suppose to do, They are no longer infidels when converted, and God shows them in the Quran that He gave the Book of Jewish Scriptures, the Gospel, and there are believers in them.

So a Christian or a Jew can not be listed as an infidel. A Moslem who has a prisoner who does not believe, is suppose to protect that prisoner even from other Moslems, So Converting is what Allah is speaking about. And Allah said if He wanted, all would believe.

Using the Name Jehovah? Kind of in the wrong place or context.

Jesus on the Cross, Has Future sins on Himself, God’s eyes being purer then to look upon Iniquity meant Jesus was ALONE, “Whose Name “ALONE is Jehovah.�

Psalms 83:18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

Most high? Like on a Hill called Calvary, ALONE.

Isaiah 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.

He is also BECOME my salvation, On a cross ALONE at Golgotha.

Isaiah 26:4 Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength:

This one is a little harder, The day of the Cross is a day taken out of time, which breaks the Covenant with the priesthood. It is named “FOR EVER�, For ever and ever is the day of the Cross and everlasting future. Everlasting future is the Everlasting strength after the Cross.

Everlasting past is before the Cross, So His going forth is from EVERLASTING (past that is)

Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Try hanging on a cross outside Jerusalem, the Lamb is slain from the Foundations of the world.

17 Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?

21 Knowest thou it , because thou wast then born? or because the number of thy days is great?

Body of Christ born the day of the Cross, given the heathens, Psalms 2:6/8

Job 3:3 Let the day perish wherein I was born, and the night in which it was said, There is a man child conceived.
4 Let that day be darkness; let not God regard it from above, neither let the light shine upon it.
5 Let darkness and the shadow of death stain it; let a cloud dwell upon it; let the blackness of the day terrify it.
6 As for that night, let darkness seize upon it; let it not be joined unto the days of the year, let it not come into the number of the months.

Cute thing about taking Good Friday 29 A.D. out of time is it moves the Sabbath to the day we call Sunday.

Destroy this temple (Priesthood) and in three days (day as three pictures) I will raise another.

Priesthood as stones cast down, If the Disciples were to hold their peace (day of the Cross, they did) the stones would cry out, and the Stones cried out “Crucify Him!�

Jeremiah 33:20 Thus saith the LORD; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;
21 Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.

Jesus is David’s physical son, So He had to go into hell or the covenant had to be broken to allow this. And the Levitical Priesthood ended, or the temple was destroyed, No temple was raised after the Romans destroyed the physical temple, after three days, That prophecy had two parts,

Ken

[Jester]

Moses says YHWH Allah is the Creator.
Jesus says YHWH Allah is the Creator.
Muhammad says YHWH Allah is the Creator.

I'll accept that they all use the same word (baring language issues). I'm not sure that we aren't all in a huff about a semantics issue, however. I have the same first name as my room mate. That causes confusion on occasion, but never have we begun to suspect that we're the same person. I'm not sure that the same kind of reasoning wouldn't apply to various religions refering to their respective dieties by the same name.