Contadictions of the Bible

[Dex]

101 Clear Contradictions In The Bible
Contradiction 1
Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? (a) God did (2 Samuel 24:1) (b) Satan did (1 Chronicles 21:1).

Contradiction 2
In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel? (a) Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9). (b) One million, one hundred thousand (1 Chronicles 21:5).

Contradiction 3
How many fighting men were found in Judah? (a) Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9). (b) Four hundred and seventy thousand (1 Chronicles 21:5).

Contradiction 4
God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine? (a) Seven (2 Samuel 24:13). (b) Three (1 Chronicles 21:12).

Contradiction 5
How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem? (a) Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26). (b) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2).

Contradiction 6
How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? (a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8). (b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9).

Contradiction 7
How long did he rule over Jerusalem? (a) Three months (2 Kings 24:8). (b) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9).

Contradiction 8
The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time? (a) Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8). (b) Three hundred (1 Chronicles 11:11).

Contradiction 9
When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after? (a) After (2 Samuel 5 and 6). (b) Before (1 Chronicles 13 and 14).

Contradiction 10
How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark? (a) Two (Genesis 6:19, 20). (b) Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8, 9).

Contradiction 11
When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture? (a) One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4). (b) Seven thousand (1 Chronicles 18:4).

Contradiction 12
How many stalls for horses did Solomon have? (a) Forty thousand (1 Kings 4:26). (b) Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25).

Contradiction 13
In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha, King of Israel die? (a) Twenty-sixth year (1 Kings 15:33 - 16:8). (b) Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1).

Contradiction 14
How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple? (a) Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2) (b) Three thousand three hundred (1 Kings 5:16).

Contradiction 15
Solomon built a facility containing how many baths? (a) Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26). (b) Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5).

Contradiction 16
Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab? (a) Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6). (b) Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11).

Contradiction 17
How many were the children of Zattu? (a) Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:8) (b) Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13).

Contradiction 18
How many were the children of Azgad? (a) One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12). (b) Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17). Contradiction 19
How many were the children of Adin? (a) Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15). (b) Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20).

Contradiction 20
How many were the children of Hashum? (a) Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:19). (b) Three hundred and twenty-eight (Nehemiah 7:22).

Contradiction 21
How many were the children of Bethel and Ai? (a) Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:28). (b) One hundred and twenty-three (Nehemiah 7:32).

Contradiction 22
Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of the whole assembly was 42,360. Yet the numbers do not add up to anything close. The totals obtained from each book is as follows: (a) 29,818 (Ezra). (b) 31, 089 (Nehemiah).

Contradiction 23
How many singers accompanied the assembly? (a) Two hundred (Ezra 2:65). (b) Two hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:67).

Contradiction 24
What was the name of King Abijah's mother? (a) Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2). (b) Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicles 11:20). But Absalom had only one daughter whose name was Tamar (2 Samuel 14:27).

Contradiction 25
Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem? (a) Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40). (b) No (Joshua 15:63).

Contradiction 26
Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary? (a) Jacob (Matthew 1:16). (b) Heli (Luke 3:23).

Contradiction 27
Jesus descended from which son of David? (a) Solomon (Matthew 1:6). (b) Nathan (Luke 3:31).

Contradiction 28
Who was the father of Shealtiel? (a) Jechoniah (Matthew 1:12). (b) Neri (Luke 3:27).

Contradiction 29
Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ? (a) Abiud (Matthew 1:13). (b) Rhesa (Luke 3:27). But the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows: I. Meshullam, ii. Hananiah, iii. Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v. Berechiah, vi. Hasadiah, viii. Jushabhesed (1 Chronicles 3:19, 20). The names Abiud and Rhesa do not fit in anywhere.

Contradiction 30
Who was the father of Uzziah? (a) Joram (Matthew 1:8). (b) Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1).

Contradiction 31
Who as the father of Jechoniah? (a) Josiah (Matthew 1:11). (b) Jehoiakim (1 Chronicles 3:16).

Contradiction 32
How many generations were there from the Babylonian exile until Christ? (a) Matthew says fourteen (Matthew 1:17). (b) But a careful count of the generations reveals only thirteen (see Matthew 1:12-16).

Contradiction 33
Who was the father of Shelah? (a) Cainan (Luke 3:35-36). (b) Arphaxad (Genesis 11:12).

Contradiction 34
Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come? (a) Yes (Matthew 11:14, 17:10-13). (b) No (John 1:19-21).

Contradiction 35
Would Jesus inherit David's throne? (a) Yes. So said the angel (Luke 1:32). (b) No, since he is a descendant of Jehoiakim (see Matthew 1:11, 1 Chronicles 3:16). And Jehoiakim was cursed by God so that none of his descendants can sit upon David's throne (Jeremiah 36:30).

Contradiction 36
Jesus rode into Jerusalem on how many animals? (a) One - a colt (Mark 11:7; cf. Luke 19:35). And they brought the colt to Jesus and threw their garments on it; and he sat upon it." (b) Two - a colt and an ass (Matthew 21:7). They brought the ass and the colt and put their garments on them and he sat thereon."

Contradiction 37
How did Simon Peter find out that Jesus was the Christ? (a) By a revelation from heaven (Matthew16:17). (b) His brother Andrew told him (John 1:41).

Contradiction 38
Where did Jesus first meet Simon Peter and Andrew? (a) By the sea of Galilee (Matthew 4:18-22). (b) On the banks of river Jordan (John 1:42). After that, Jesus decided to go to Galilee (John 1:43).

Contradiction 39
When Jesus met Jairus was Jairus' daughter already dead? (a) Yes. Matthew 9:18 quotes him as saying, "My daughter has just died." (b) No. Mark 5:23 quotes him as saying, "My little daughter is at the point of death."

Contradiction 40
Did Jesus allow his disciples to keep a staff on their journey? (a) Yes (Mark 6:8). (b) No (Matthew 10:9; Luke 9:3).

Contradiction 41
Did Herod think that Jesus was John the baptist? (a) Yes (Matthew 14:2; Mark 6:16). (b) No (Luke 9:9)

Contradiction 42
Did John the Baptist recognise Jesus before his baptism? (a) Yes (Matthew 3:13-14). (b) No (John 1:32, 33).

Contradiction 43
Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus after his baptism? (a) Yes (John 1:32, 33). (b) No (Matthew 11:2).

Contradiction 44
According to the Gospel of John, what did Jesus say about bearing his own witness? (a) "If I bear witness to myself, my testimony is not true"(John 5:31). (b) "Even if I do bear witness to myself, my testimony is true" (John 8:14).

Contradiction 45
When Jesus entered Jerusalem did he cleanse the temple that same day? (a) Yes (Matthew 21:12). (b) No. He went into the temple and looked around, but since it was very late he did nothing. Instead, he went to Bethany to spend the night and returned the next morning to cleanse the temple (Mark 11:1-17).

Contradiction 46
The Gospels say that Jesus cursed a fig tree. Did the tree wither at once? (a) Yes. (Matthew 21:19). (b) No. It withered overnight (Mark 11:20).

Contradiction 47
Did Judas kiss Jesus? (a) Yes (Matthew 26:48-50). (b) No. Judas could not get close enough to Jesus to kiss him (John 18:3-12).

Contradiction 48
What did Jesus say about Peter's denial? (a) "The cock will not crow till you have denied me three times" (John 13:38). (b) "Before the cock crows twice you will deny me three times" (Mark 14:30). When the cock crowed once, the three denials were not yet complete (see Mark 14:72). Therefore prediction (a) failed.

Contradiction 49
Did Jesus bear his own cross? (a) Yes (John 19:17). (b) No (Matthew 27:31-32).

Contradiction 50
Did Jesus die before the curtain of the temple was torn? (a) Yes (Matthew 27:50-51; Mark 15:37-38). (b) No. After the curtain was torn, then Jesus crying with a loud voice, said, "Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit!" And having said this he breathed his last (Luke 23:45-46).

Contradiction 51
Did Jesus say anything secretly? (a) No. "I have said nothing secretly" (John 18:20). (b) Yes. "He did not speak to them without a parable, but privately to his own disciples he explained everything" (Mark 4:34). The disciples asked him "Why do you speak to them in parables?" He said, "To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given" (Matthew 13:10-11).

Contradiction 52
Where was Jesus at the sixth hour on the day of the crucifixion? (a) On the cross (Mark 15:23). (b) In Pilate's court (John 19:14).

Contradiction 53
The gospels say that two thieves were crucified along with Jesus. Did both thieves mock Jesus? (a) Yes (Mark 15:32). (b) No. One of them mocked Jesus, the other defended Jesus (Luke 23:43).

Contradiction 54
Did Jesus ascend to Paradise the same day of the crucifixion? (a) Yes. He said to the thief who defended him, "Today you will be with me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). (b) No. He said to Mary Magdelene two days later, "I have not yet ascended to the Father" (John 20:17).

Contradiction 55
When Paul was on the road to Damascus he saw a light and heard a voice. Did those who were with him hear the voice? (a) Yes (Acts 9:7). (b) No (Acts 22:9).

Contradiction 56
When Paul saw the light he fell to the ground. Did his traveling companions also fall to the ground? (a) Yes (Acts 26:14). (b) No (Acts 9:7).

Contradiction 57
Did the voice spell out on the spot what Paul's duties were to be? (a) Yes (Acts 26:16-18). (b) No. The voice commanded Paul to go into the city of Damascus and there he will be told what he must do. (Acts 9:7; 22:10).

Contradiction 58
When the Israelites dwelt in Shittin they committed adultery with the daughters of Moab. God struck them with a plague. How many people died in that plague? (a) Twenty-four thousand (Numbers 25:1 and 9). (b) Twenty-three thousand (1 Corinthians 10:8).

Contradiction 59
How many members of the house of Jacob came to Egypt? (a) Seventy souls (Genesis 46:27). (b) Seventy-five souls (Acts 7:14).

Contradiction 60
What did Judas do with the blood money he received for betraying Jesus? (a) He bought a field (Acts 1:18). (b) He threw all of it into the temple and went away. The priests could not put the blood money into the temple treasury, so they used it to buy a field to bury strangers (Matthew 27:5).

Contradiction 61
How did Judas die? (a) After he threw the money into the temple he went away and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5). (b) After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18).

Contradiction 62
Why is the field called "Field of Blood"? (a) Because the priests bought it with the blood money (Matthew 27:8). (b) Because of the bloody death of Judas therein (Acts 1:19).

Contradiction 63
Who is a ransom for whom? (a) "The Son of Man came . . . to give his life as a ransom for many" (Mark 10:45). " . . . Christ Jesus who gave himself as a ransom for all . . . " (1 Timothy 2:5-6). (b) "The wicked is a ransom for the righteous, and the faithless for the upright" (Proverbs 21:18).

Contradiction 64
Is the law of Moses useful? (a) Yes. "All scripture is . . . profitable . . ." (2 Timothy 3:16). (b) No. ". . . A former commandment is set aside because of its weakness and uselessness . . . " (Hebrews 7:18).

Contradiction 65
What was the exact wording on the cross? (a) "This is Jesus the King of the Jews" (Matthew 27:37). (b) "The King of the Jews" (Mark 15:26) (c) "This is the King of the Jews" (Luke 23:38). (d) "Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews" (John 19:19).

Contradiction 66
Did Herod want to kill John the Baptist? (a) Yes (Matthew 14:5). (b) No. It was Herodias, the wife of Herod who wanted to kill him. But Herod knew that he was a righteous man and kept him safe (Mark 6:20).

Contradiction 67
Who was the tenth disciple of Jesus in the list of twelve? (a) Thaddaeus (Matthew 10:1-4; Mark 3:13-19). (b) Judas son of James is the corresponding name in Luke's gospel (Luke 6:12-16).

Contradiction 68
Jesus saw a man sitting at the tax collector's office and called him to be his disciple. What was his name? (a) Matthew (Matthew 9:9). (b) Levi (Mark 2:14; Luke 5:27).

Contradiction 69
Was Jesus crucified on the daytime before the Passover meal or the daytime after? (a) After (Mark 14:12-17). (b) Before. Before the feast of the Passover (John 13:1) Judas went out at night (John 13:30). The other disciples thought he was going out to buy supplies to prepare for the Passover meal (John 13:29). When Jesus was arrested, the Jews did not enter Pilate's judgement hall because they wanted to stay clean to eat the Passover (John 18:28). When the judgement was pronounced against Jesus, it was about the sixth hour on the day of Preparation for the Passover (John 19:14).

Contradiction 70
Did Jesus pray to The Father to prevent the crucifixion? (a) Yes. (Matthew 26:39; Mark 14:36; Luke 22:42). (b) No. (John 12:27).

Contradiction 71
In the gospels which say that Jesus prayed to avoid the cross, how many times did he move away from his disciples to pray? (a) Three (Matthew 26:36-46 and Mark 14:32-42). (b) One. No opening is left for another two times. (Luke 22:39-46).

Contradiction 72
Matthew and Mark agree that Jesus went away and prayed three times. What were the words of the second prayer? (a) Mark does not give the words but he says that the words were the same as the first prayer (Mark 14:39). (b) Matthew gives us the words, and we can see that they are not the same as in the first (Matthew 26:42).

Contradiction 73
What did the centurion say when Jesus dies? (a) "Certainly this man was innocent" (Luke 23:47). (b) "Truly this man was the Son of God" (Mark 15:39).

Contradiction 74
When Jesus said "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" in what language did he speak? (a) Hebrew: the words are "Eli, Eli . . . " (Matthew 27:46). (b) Aramaic: the words are "Eloi, Eloi . . . " (Mark 15:34).

Contradiction 75
According to the gospels, what were the last words of Jesus before he died? (a) "Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit!" (Luke 23:46). (b) "It is finished" (John 19:30).

Contradiction 76
When Jesus entered Capernaum he healed the slave of a centurion. Did the centurion come personally to request Jesus for this? (a) Yes (Matthew 8:5). (b) No. He sent some elders of the Jews and his friends (Luke 7:3, 6).

Contradiction 77
(a) Adam was told that if and when he eats the forbidden fruit he would die the same day (Genesis 2:17). (b) Adam ate the fruit and went on to live to a ripe old age of 930 years (Genesis 5:5).

Contradiction 78
(a) God decided that the life-span of humans will be limited to 120 years (Genesis 6:3). (b) Many people born after that lived longer than 120. Arpachshad lived 438 years. His son Shelah lived 433 years. His son Eber lived 464 years, etc. (Genesis 11:12-16).

Contradiction 79
Apart from Jesus did anyone else ascend to heaven? (a) No (John 3:13). (b) Yes. "And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven" (2 Kings 2:11).

Contradiction 80
Who was high priest when David went into the house of God and ate the consecrated bread? (a) Abiathar (Mark 2:26). (b) Ahimelech, the father of Abiathar (1 Samuel 21:1; 22:20).

Contradiction 81
Was Jesus' body wrapped in spices before burial in accordance with Jewish burial customs? (a) Yes and his female disciples witnessed his burial (John 19:39-40). (b) No. Jesus was simply wrapped in a linen shroud. Then the women bought and prepared spices "so that they may go and anoint him [Jesus]" (Mark 16:1).

Contradiction 82
When did the women buy the spices? (a) After "the sabbath was past" (Mark 16:1). (b) Before the sabbath. The women "prepared spices and ointments." Then, "on the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment" (Luke 23:55 to 24:1).

Contradiction 83
At what time of day did the women visit the tomb? (a) "Toward the dawn" (Matthew 28:1). (b) "When the sun had risen" (Mark 16:2).

Contradiction 84
What was the purpose for which the women went to the tomb? (a) To anoint Jesus' body with spices (Mark 16:1;Luke 23:55 to 24:1). (b) To see the tomb. Nothing about spices here (Matthew 28:1). For no specified reason. In this gospel the wrapping with spices had been done before the sabbath (John 20:1).

Contradiction 85
A large stone was placed at the entrance of the tomb. Where was the stone when the women arrived? (a) They saw that the stone was "Rolled back" (Mark 16:4). They found the stone "rolled away from the tomb" (Luke 24:2). They saw that "the stone had been taken away from the tomb" (John 20:1) (b) As the women approached, an angel descended from heaven, rolled away the stone, and conversed with the women. Matthew made the women witness the spectacular rolling away of the stone (Matthew 28:1-6).

Contradiction 86
Did anyone tell the women what happened to Jesus' body? (a) Yes. "A young man in a white robe" (Mark 16:5). "Two men . . . in dazzling apparel" later described as angels (Luke 24:4 and 24:23). An angel - the one who rolled back the stone (Matthew 16:2). In each case the women were told that Jesus had risen from the dead (Matthew 28:7; Mark 16:6; Luke 24:5 footnote). (b) No. Mary met no one and returned saying, "They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid him" (John 20:2).

Contradiction 87
When did Mary Magdelene first meet the resurrected Jesus? And how did she react? (a) Mary and the other women met Jesus on their way back from their first and only visit to the tomb. They took hold of his feet and worshiped him (Matthew 28:9). (b) On her second visit to the tomb Mary met Jesus just outside the tomb. When she saw Jesus she did not recognize him. She mistook him for the gardener. She still thinks that Jesus' body is laid to rest somewhere and she demands to know where. But when Jesus said her name she at once recognized him and called him "Teacher." Jesus said to her, "Do not hold me . . . " (John 20:11 to 17).

Contradiction 88
What was Jesus' instruction for his disciples? (a) "Tell my brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see me" (Matthew 28:10). (b) "Go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God" (John 20:17).

Contradiction 89
When did the disciples return to Galilee? (a) Immediately, because when they saw Jesus in Galilee "some doubted" (Matthew 28:17). This period of uncertainty should not persist. (b) After at least 40 days. That evening the disciples were still in Jerusalem (Luke 24:33). Jesus appeared to them there and told them, "stay in the city until you are clothed with power from on high" (Luke 24:49). He was appearing to them "during forty days" (Acts 1:3), and "charged them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise . . . "(Acts 1:4).

Contradiction 90
To whom did the Midianites sell Joseph? (a) "To the Ishmaelites" (Genesis 37:28). (b) "To Potiphar, an officer of Pharoah" (Genesis 37:36).

Contradiction 91
Who brought Joseph to Egypt? (a) The Ishmaelites bought Joseph and then "took Joseph to Egypt" (Genesis 37:28). (b) "The Midianites had sold him in Egypt" (Genesis 37:36). Joseph said to his brothers "I am your brother, Joseph, whom you sold into Egypt" (Genesis 45:4).

Contradiction 92
Does God change his mind? (a) Yes. The word of the Lord came to Samuel: "I repent that I have made Saul King . . ." (1 Samuel 15:10 to 11). (b) No. God "will not lie or repent; for he is not a man, that he should repent" (1 Samuel 15:29). (c) Yes. "And the Lord repented that he had made Saul King over Israel" (1 Samuel 15:35). Notice that the above three quotes are all from the same chapter of the same book! In addition, the Bible shows that God repented on several other occasions: I. The Lord was sorry that he made man" (Genesis 6:6). " I am sorry that I have made them" (Genesis 6:7) ii."And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do to his people" (Exodus 32:14) iii.(Lots of other such references).

Contradiction 93
The Bible says that for each miracle Moses and Aaron demonstrated the same by their secret arts. Then comes the following feat: (a) Moses and Aaron converted all the available water into blood (Exodus 7:20-21). (b) The magicians did the same (Exodus 7:22). This is impossible, since there would have been no water left to convert into blood.

Contradiction 94
Who killed Goliath? (a) David (1 Samuel 17:23, 50). (b) Elhanan (2 Samuel 21:19).

Contradiction 95
Who killed Saul? (a) "Saul took his own sword and fell upon it. . . . Thus Saul died... (1 Samuel 31:4-6). (b) An Amalekite slew him (2 Samuel 1:1-16).

Contradiction 96
Does every man sin? (a) Yes. "There is no man who does not sin" (1 Kings 8:46; see also 2 Chronicles 6:36; Proverbs 20:9; Ecclesiastes 7:20; and 1 John 1:8-10). (b) No. True Christians cannot possibly sin, because they are the children of God.

Every one who believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of God . . (1 John 5:1). "We should be called children of God; and so we are" (1 John 3:1). "He who loves is born of God" (1 John 4:7). "No one born of God commits sin; for God's nature abides in him, and he cannot sin because he is born of God" (1 John 3:9). But, then again, Yes! "If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us" (1 John 1:8).

Contradiction 97
Who will bear whose burden? (a) "Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ" (Galatians 6:2). (b) "Each man will have to bear his own load" (Galatians 6:5).

Contradiction 98
How many disciples did Jesus appear to after his resurrection? (a) Twelve (1 Corinthians 15:5). (b) Eleven (Matthew 27:3-5 and Acts 1:9-26, see also Matthew 28:16; Mark 16:14 footnote; Luke 24:9; Luke 24:33).

Contradiction 99
Where was Jesus three days after his baptism? (a) After his baptism, "the spirit immediately drove him out into the wilderness. And he was in the wilderness forty days . . . (Mark 1:12-13). (b) Next day after the baptism, Jesus selected two disciples. Second day: Jesus went to Galilee — two more disciples. Third day: Jesus was at a wedding feast in Cana in Galilee (see John 1:35; 1:43; 2:1-11).

Contradiction 100
Was baby Jesus's life threatened in Jerusalem? (a) Yes, so Joseph fled with him to Egypt and stayed there until Herod died (Matthew 2:13 - 23). (b) No. The family fled nowhere. They calmly presented the child at the Jerusalem temple according to the Jewish customs and returned to Galilee (Luke 2:21-40).

Contradiction 101
When Jesus walked on water how did the disciples respond? (a) They worshiped him, saying, "Truly you are the Son of God" (Matthew 14:33). (b) "They were utterly astounded, for they did not understand about the loaves, but their hearts were hardened" (Mark 6:51-52).

[Dex]

you have to understand him first goat,hes the king of logical fallacies.he only sees the argument infront of him and never looks forward to what he might be actually saying.judging from the way he argued in my other topic i was actually hoping hed do something like this.

with the argument of scribal errors he has admited the bible to be errant.if the bible is errant then it can not be the word of god.if its not the word of god then what purpose is there for relating it to god.

if it is the word of god and god allowed the errors to be put into the bible then he cannot blame anyone for not understanding the bible given its contradictions and scribal errors.

but we know that not to be true so it must just be a book written by men for the purpose of men that has long outlived its usefullness.

[piglet17]

Noncontradiction 61 (unless it's a "contradiction" to go out of order. Mebbe we outta make sure w/ a resident "self-god" first. Someone wrote 'em in an order, but then someone also got seemingly a little impatient in their latest posts).

Noncontradiction 61
How did Judas die? (a) After he threw the money into the temple he went away and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5). (b) After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18).

i think goat's preconception is that hanging bodies can't fall ? Can't burst ?
Can't fall and can't burst 'cuz goat says they can't ? Cuz goat can't imagine they can ? Cuz goat duzn't want one to ? Duzn't want this one too ?
Hanging bodies can't fall headlong ?
Can fall backlong ?
Sideways ?
Any which way but loose ?
Can burst open except on the side ?
Can we help bursting with laughter at this "contradiction" ?
Is even a preschooler at as silly a level intellectually as either goat or goat's teachers ?
Is that a "cheapshot" (or can we pretend it's one) or is it really fact that hanging bodies can't possibly fall ?
If sloths and bacteria can generate over time people, at least in one's fantasies, can one even fantasize a hung human body falling and breaking open ?

Confusing things? Where did I say anything about a baseball game.

Sorry. That was your bud Dex's brilliant contribution.

Can't you see who you are responding to, or is things just a bit to complicated for you.

Meaning goat disagrees w/ Dex ?
Dex duzn't speak for goat all that well ?
Goat duz a poor job o' speakin for Dex ?
Goat wants me to contradict the order o' Dex's list ?
Dex wants me to "contradict" Dex's order ?
Nec Spe Nec Metu wants me to answer all 97 at once ?
Quicker ?
Was listing 100 at once meant to hasten discussion ?
Facilitate discussion ?
At least make discussion as in-depth as possible ?
Since you gentlemen's arguments seem equally silly, i apologize for confusing you that time

You seem to be full of miscommunication and logical fallacies.

That's interesting you say so. 'Cuz i was feeling that about you and Dex. Equally and apart. In any case, since Dex wasn't particularly able, or man enough, to take back his baseball game comparison, are you rejecting it like i do ?
Or are you taking the more intelligent course and not bothering reading his comments ? i should learn from you

So, specifically how about dealing with the issue.
What year was Jesus born via the nativity stories.

i know you're excited and impatient to hear. (And i appreciate that.) But that's not even on the list. Perhaps i should just take the "police" role and respond to the OP first, and maybe get back to you around post......500 or so ?
By "issue" are you saying that particular subject is some kind of "contradiction" ?
"Contradiction" in the Bible ? If so: where ?
Could you try being as specific as the OP is ?
From my reading, including of astronomical, calendar, as well as Bible study: He was born probably around October 5 or 4 BC. (i forget which right now. Can get back to you asap).
If your broader question is what date do the nativity stories share? they don't use our calendar. For instance, they don't write "5 BC" or "such and such AD."
Some of the many clues include the years it took for the temple to be built (John), the mention of Caesar and governors and age of Jesus in Luke, the death and succession of rulers in Matthew. It's really fun to place all 4 Gospels side by side. Which i'm willing to help you guys with. One warning, in case you need it or can't see it for yourself is that the Gospels aren't video cameras. Running 24 hours a day, stationed over Jesus and all over Israel, and running 365 days a year. Nor are they meant to be. Nor need they be

those are two issues that can not be explained away via copier errors.

Nor need they be. Since they don't even rise to the level of "issues." At least not after a 10-second explanation.

you have to understand him first goat,hes the king of logical fallacies.he only sees the argument infront of him and never looks forward to what he might be actually saying.

i can't say i appreciate, much less understand, these words of "wisdom" from Dex. But let's see where's he going, if anywhere

judging from the way he argued in my other topic i was actually hoping hed do something like this.

Something like what ? Address the OP one by one ?
Not address the OP one by one ?
Not address the OP ?
Mention "scribal errors" ? Maybe that's it:

with the argument of scribal errors he has admited the bible to be errant.

Thanks but no thanks. With the argument of scribal errors instead he's admitted scribes can make simple trivial errors. (i realize, of course, that Dex has probably never done that. i bet we can't even find one typo in any of his posts to me. Or to you.)

if the bible is errant then it can not be the word of god.

If the Word of God can't be copied, then it can't be typoed. Mystery solved !

if its not the word of god then what purpose is there for relating it to god.

Not only can it not be typoed, other books can. For instance my edition of Shakespeare, even from the printer, might have errors Shakespeare never wrote.
Meaning Shakespeare can't be Shakespeare !
Why didn't i "think" o' that ?
Must be 'cuz i ain't Dex

if it is the word of god and god allowed the errors to be put into the bible then he cannot blame anyone for not understanding the bible given its contradictions and scribal errors.

That's right Dex. Tell Him that about scribal errors when you see Him.
In fact: tel me that. Cuz i just mispelled the word "tell." And forgot a 'postrophe on the word "'cause"

but we know that not to be true so it must just be a book written by men for the purpose of men that has long outlived its usefullness.

What i know, at least based on his posts thus far, is that Dex either has no idea what he's talkin about, or can't express himself affirmatively.
What purpose ?
Or d'ya wanna go back to your noncontradictions ?

Thnx

[Goat]

Noncontradiction 61 (unless it's a "contradiction" to go out of order. Mebbe we outta make sure w/ a resident "self-god" first. Someone wrote 'em in an order, but then someone also got seemingly a little impatient in their latest posts).

Noncontradiction 61
How did Judas die? (a) After he threw the money into the temple he went away and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5). (b) After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18).

i think goat's preconception is that hanging bodies can't fall ? Can't burst ?
Can't fall and can't burst 'cuz goat says they can't ? Cuz goat can't imagine they can ? Cuz goat duzn't want one to ? Duzn't want this one too ?
Hanging bodies can't fall headlong ?
Can fall backlong ?
Sideways ?
Any which way but loose ?
Can burst open except on the side ?
Can we help bursting with laughter at this "contradiction" ?
Is even a preschooler at as silly a level intellectually as either goat or goat's teachers ?
Is that a "cheapshot" (or can we pretend it's one) or is it really fact that hanging bodies can't possibly fall ?
If sloths and bacteria can generate over time people, at least in one's fantasies, can one even fantasize a hung human body falling and breaking open ?

Confusing things? Where did I say anything about a baseball game.

Sorry. That was your bud Dex's brilliant contribution.

Can't you see who you are responding to, or is things just a bit to complicated for you.

Meaning goat disagrees w/ Dex ?
Dex duzn't speak for goat all that well ?
Goat duz a poor job o' speakin for Dex ?
Goat wants me to contradict the order o' Dex's list ?
Dex wants me to "contradict" Dex's order ?
Nec Spe Nec Metu wants me to answer all 97 at once ?
Quicker ?
Was listing 100 at once meant to hasten discussion ?
Facilitate discussion ?
At least make discussion as in-depth as possible ?
Since you gentlemen's arguments seem equally silly, i apologize for confusing you that time

You seem to be full of miscommunication and logical fallacies.

That's interesting you say so. 'Cuz i was feeling that about you and Dex. Equally and apart. In any case, since Dex wasn't particularly able, or man enough, to take back his baseball game comparison, are you rejecting it like i do ?
Or are you taking the more intelligent course and not bothering reading his comments ? i should learn from you

So, specifically how about dealing with the issue.
What year was Jesus born via the nativity stories.

i know you're excited and impatient to hear. (And i appreciate that.) But that's not even on the list. Perhaps i should just take the "police" role and respond to the OP first, and maybe get back to you around post......500 or so ?
By "issue" are you saying that particular subject is some kind of "contradiction" ?
"Contradiction" in the Bible ? If so: where ?
Could you try being as specific as the OP is ?
From my reading, including of astronomical, calendar, as well as Bible study: He was born probably around October 5 or 4 BC. (i forget which right now. Can get back to you asap).
If your broader question is what date do the nativity stories share? they don't use our calendar. For instance, they don't write "5 BC" or "such and such AD."
Some of the many clues include the years it took for the temple to be built (John), the mention of Caesar and governors and age of Jesus in Luke, the death and succession of rulers in Matthew. It's really fun to place all 4 Gospels side by side. Which i'm willing to help you guys with. One warning, in case you need it or can't see it for yourself is that the Gospels aren't video cameras. Running 24 hours a day, stationed over Jesus and all over Israel, and running 365 days a year. Nor are they meant to be. Nor need they be

those are two issues that can not be explained away via copier errors.

Nor need they be. Since they don't even rise to the level of "issues." At least not after a 10-second explanation.

you have to understand him first goat,hes the king of logical fallacies.he only sees the argument infront of him and never looks forward to what he might be actually saying.

i can't say i appreciate, much less understand, these words of "wisdom" from Dex. But let's see where's he going, if anywhere

judging from the way he argued in my other topic i was actually hoping hed do something like this.

Something like what ? Address the OP one by one ?
Not address the OP one by one ?
Not address the OP ?
Mention "scribal errors" ? Maybe that's it:

with the argument of scribal errors he has admited the bible to be errant.

Thanks but no thanks. With the argument of scribal errors instead he's admitted scribes can make simple trivial errors. (i realize, of course, that Dex has probably never done that. i bet we can't even find one typo in any of his posts to me. Or to you.)

if the bible is errant then it can not be the word of god.

If the Word of God can't be copied, then it can't be typoed. Mystery solved !

if its not the word of god then what purpose is there for relating it to god.

Not only can it not be typoed, other books can. For instance my edition of Shakespeare, even from the printer, might have errors Shakespeare never wrote.
Meaning Shakespeare can't be Shakespeare !
Why didn't i "think" o' that ?
Must be 'cuz i ain't Dex

if it is the word of god and god allowed the errors to be put into the bible then he cannot blame anyone for not understanding the bible given its contradictions and scribal errors.

That's right Dex. Tell Him that about scribal errors when you see Him.
In fact: tel me that. Cuz i just mispelled the word "tell." And forgot a 'postrophe on the word "'cause"

but we know that not to be true so it must just be a book written by men for the purpose of men that has long outlived its usefullness.

What i know, at least based on his posts thus far, is that Dex either has no idea what he's talkin about, or can't express himself affirmatively.
What purpose ?
Or d'ya wanna go back to your noncontradictions ?

Thnx

They can.. but show me where there is an indication in either of the stories anything about the other story. For example, explain who paid for the field.
Show, using the text of one of the two stories, how the other of the stories is feasible.

To try to say 'they both happened' is twisting both .. since the way both the stories are written, they are mutually exclusive to each other. Of course, if you want to deny that..well, that tells me the quality of your belief.

[Confused]

Noncontradiction 61 (unless it's a "contradiction" to go out of order. Mebbe we outta make sure w/ a resident "self-god" first. Someone wrote 'em in an order, but then someone also got seemingly a little impatient in their latest posts).

Noncontradiction 61
How did Judas die? (a) After he threw the money into the temple he went away and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5). (b) After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18).

i think goat's preconception is that hanging bodies can't fall ? Can't burst ?
Can't fall and can't burst 'cuz goat says they can't ? Cuz goat can't imagine they can ? Cuz goat duzn't want one to ? Duzn't want this one too ?
Hanging bodies can't fall headlong ?
Can fall backlong ?
Sideways ?
Any which way but loose ?
Can burst open except on the side ?
Can we help bursting with laughter at this "contradiction" ?
Is even a preschooler at as silly a level intellectually as either goat or goat's teachers ?
Is that a "cheapshot" (or can we pretend it's one) or is it really fact that hanging bodies can't possibly fall ?
If sloths and bacteria can generate over time people, at least in one's fantasies, can one even fantasize a hung human body falling and breaking open ?

Confusing things? Where did I say anything about a baseball game.

Sorry. That was your bud Dex's brilliant contribution.

Can't you see who you are responding to, or is things just a bit to complicated for you.

Meaning goat disagrees w/ Dex ?
Dex duzn't speak for goat all that well ?
Goat duz a poor job o' speakin for Dex ?
Goat wants me to contradict the order o' Dex's list ?
Dex wants me to "contradict" Dex's order ?
Nec Spe Nec Metu wants me to answer all 97 at once ?
Quicker ?
Was listing 100 at once meant to hasten discussion ?
Facilitate discussion ?
At least make discussion as in-depth as possible ?
Since you gentlemen's arguments seem equally silly, i apologize for confusing you that time

You seem to be full of miscommunication and logical fallacies.

That's interesting you say so. 'Cuz i was feeling that about you and Dex. Equally and apart. In any case, since Dex wasn't particularly able, or man enough, to take back his baseball game comparison, are you rejecting it like i do ?
Or are you taking the more intelligent course and not bothering reading his comments ? i should learn from you

So, specifically how about dealing with the issue.
What year was Jesus born via the nativity stories.

i know you're excited and impatient to hear. (And i appreciate that.) But that's not even on the list. Perhaps i should just take the "police" role and respond to the OP first, and maybe get back to you around post......500 or so ?
By "issue" are you saying that particular subject is some kind of "contradiction" ?
"Contradiction" in the Bible ? If so: where ?
Could you try being as specific as the OP is ?
From my reading, including of astronomical, calendar, as well as Bible study: He was born probably around October 5 or 4 BC. (i forget which right now. Can get back to you asap).
If your broader question is what date do the nativity stories share? they don't use our calendar. For instance, they don't write "5 BC" or "such and such AD."
Some of the many clues include the years it took for the temple to be built (John), the mention of Caesar and governors and age of Jesus in Luke, the death and succession of rulers in Matthew. It's really fun to place all 4 Gospels side by side. Which i'm willing to help you guys with. One warning, in case you need it or can't see it for yourself is that the Gospels aren't video cameras. Running 24 hours a day, stationed over Jesus and all over Israel, and running 365 days a year. Nor are they meant to be. Nor need they be

those are two issues that can not be explained away via copier errors.

Nor need they be. Since they don't even rise to the level of "issues." At least not after a 10-second explanation.

you have to understand him first goat,hes the king of logical fallacies.he only sees the argument infront of him and never looks forward to what he might be actually saying.

i can't say i appreciate, much less understand, these words of "wisdom" from Dex. But let's see where's he going, if anywhere

judging from the way he argued in my other topic i was actually hoping hed do something like this.

Something like what ? Address the OP one by one ?
Not address the OP one by one ?
Not address the OP ?
Mention "scribal errors" ? Maybe that's it:

with the argument of scribal errors he has admited the bible to be errant.

Thanks but no thanks. With the argument of scribal errors instead he's admitted scribes can make simple trivial errors. (i realize, of course, that Dex has probably never done that. i bet we can't even find one typo in any of his posts to me. Or to you.)

if the bible is errant then it can not be the word of god.

If the Word of God can't be copied, then it can't be typoed. Mystery solved !

if its not the word of god then what purpose is there for relating it to god.

Not only can it not be typoed, other books can. For instance my edition of Shakespeare, even from the printer, might have errors Shakespeare never wrote.
Meaning Shakespeare can't be Shakespeare !
Why didn't i "think" o' that ?
Must be 'cuz i ain't Dex

if it is the word of god and god allowed the errors to be put into the bible then he cannot blame anyone for not understanding the bible given its contradictions and scribal errors.

That's right Dex. Tell Him that about scribal errors when you see Him.
In fact: tel me that. Cuz i just mispelled the word "tell." And forgot a 'postrophe on the word "'cause"

but we know that not to be true so it must just be a book written by men for the purpose of men that has long outlived its usefullness.

What i know, at least based on his posts thus far, is that Dex either has no idea what he's talkin about, or can't express himself affirmatively.
What purpose ?
Or d'ya wanna go back to your noncontradictions ?

Thnx

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[Dex]

Noncontradiction 61 (unless it's a "contradiction" to go out of order. Mebbe we outta make sure w/ a resident "self-god" first. Someone wrote 'em in an order, but then someone also got seemingly a little impatient in their latest posts)

By all means take them in any order you wish.

Quote:
Noncontradiction 61
How did Judas die? (a) After he threw the money into the temple he went away and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5). (b) After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18).

i think goat's preconception is that hanging bodies can't fall ? Can't burst ?
Can't fall and can't burst 'cuz goat says they can't ? Cuz goat can't imagine they can ? Cuz goat duzn't want one to ? Duzn't want this one too ?
Hanging bodies can't fall headlong ?
Can fall backlong ?
Sideways ?
Any which way but loose ?
Can burst open except on the side ?
Can we help bursting with laughter at this "contradiction" ?
Is even a preschooler at as silly a level intellectually as either goat or goat's teachers ?
Is that a "cheapshot" (or can we pretend it's one) or is it really fact that hanging bodies can't possibly fall ?
If sloths and bacteria can generate over time people, at least in one's fantasies, can one even fantasize a hung human body falling and breaking open ?

hmm,i can agree that a hung body can fall but you fail in making the assumpition that this is what they meant in Acts.what evidence do you hold that can connect the two.

Can't you see who you are responding to, or is things just a bit to complicated for you.

Meaning goat disagrees w/ Dex ?
Dex duzn't speak for goat all that well ?
Goat duz a poor job o' speakin for Dex ?
Goat wants me to contradict the order o' Dex's list ?
Dex wants me to "contradict" Dex's order ?
Nec Spe Nec Metu wants me to answer all 97 at once ?
Quicker ?
Was listing 100 at once meant to hasten discussion ?
Facilitate discussion ?
At least make discussion as in-depth as possible ?
Since you gentlemen's arguments seem equally silly, i apologize for confusing you that time

i can see how you are overwhelmed.your posts tend to lean towards the frantic side.

Quote:
You seem to be full of miscommunication and logical fallacies.

That's interesting you say so. 'Cuz i was feeling that about you and Dex. Equally and apart. In any case, since Dex wasn't particularly able, or man enough, to take back his baseball game comparison, are you rejecting it like i do ?
Or are you taking the more intelligent course and not bothering reading his comments ? i should learn from you

lol you always seem to only rely on personal attacks.i wonder if its because your unable to defend the topic at hand in any intelligent manner.

if its not the word of god then what purpose is there for relating it to god.

Not only can it not be typoed, other books can. For instance my edition of Shakespeare, even from the printer, might have errors Shakespeare never wrote.
Meaning Shakespeare can't be Shakespeare !
Why didn't i "think" o' that ?
Must be 'cuz i ain't Dex

lol and now we refer to the metaphor.hmm,sounds a little like my baseball metaphor but that cant be it.no not from you.

but we know that not to be true so it must just be a book written by men for the purpose of men that has long outlived its usefullness.

What i know, at least based on his posts thus far, is that Dex either has no idea what he's talkin about, or can't express himself affirmatively.
What purpose ?
Or d'ya wanna go back to your noncontradictions ?

Thnx

by all means lets continue with the debate.i love to be insulted rather than debate.its what i wake up for.

also for no confusion that last bit was sarcasm.

[Dex]

i apologize too if anything ive said has been taken personally and will strive to keep to the topic.

[piglet17]

show me where there is an indication in either of the stories anything about the other story.

Why ?
What difference does that make ?
In your mind Luke's s'pose to reference Matthew's Gospel ?
Include it ?
Matthew's s'pose to be longer ?
How much longer ?
It's not the way you woulda written it ?
Well that's impressive as a point

For example, explain who paid for the field.

Okay. The chief priests did. Mt 27. Which is even what Zechariah wrote about half a millenium before. Zechariah 11. (And religious Jews then felt Zechariah had the spirit of Jeremiah, in case you want to get into that.) Peter, in Acts 1, also references the OT on Judas. Psalm 41. There's an explicit connection.

If i buy something with your money, especially when i regard the money as defiled cuz it's expressly yours (cf Mt 27), then, in point of fact to me, U buy it (cf Acts 1:18).
In Psalm 69 and 109, quoted in the same conversation by Peter in Acts 1, also Judas' apostleship "became desolate" and "let another take." Twice Peter uses the pronoun "his" for the dead Judas' position in Acts 1:20.
Any contradiction in the 2 or 3 separate accounts of Judas' death is.......................
invisible. There was no contradiction. There is none. And there can be none, no matter how much a fourth-grader or so fantasizes or wants to make one

Show, using the text of one of the two stories, how the other of the stories is feasible.

i already did. And you even already admitted they are. Hung bodies can fall. Falling bodies can burst. Blood can come out. Buying something with your money, even after you in disgust throw your money back at me, makes the thing bought, especially if i want it to be: YOURS.
Any real contradiction here is how anyone could possibly insist there must be a contradiction.

To try to say 'they both happened' is twisting both .. since the way both the stories are written, they are mutually exclusive to each other.

To the contrary of your falsehood: Acts 1 doesn't read: "Judas didn't hang himself."
Nor does it require it. Nor does it suggest it. Nor does it imply it. In point of fact, it allows for it. Since in the realm of physics, it's just possible that a hung body can fall. Unless you're retracting your admission. Even if you're redacting your admission !

Of course, if you want to deny that..well, that tells me the quality of your belief.

Man, please don't mess up this thread anymore, if at all possible you can control yourself. Though of course i disagree with the word "contradiction" in the OP, at least i half-way know where he's coming from. And he otherwise wrote it well and specifically. But you just seem silly because Matthew 27 doesn't read: "Judas' body didn't fall." It doesn't read: "he couldn't have fallen." If your preconception/fantasy Bible contradicts: that's one thing. The real Bible, however, doesn't.

Thanks

[Alethes]

101 Clear Contradictions In The Bible Contradiction 1 Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? (a) God did (2 Samuel 24:1) (b) Satan did (1 Chronicles 21:1).

It's only logiical that God would not incidte anyone, nevertheless, His own people
to sin against Him. It was Satan, indirectly.

There is very little mention of the Adversary's spiritual kingdom in the Old Testament and God took the blame. The secrecy of the Devil and his host of devil spirits was revealed when Christ came and which can be seen in the Gospels.

[Goat]

101 Clear Contradictions In The Bible Contradiction 1 Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? (a) God did (2 Samuel 24:1) (b) Satan did (1 Chronicles 21:1).

It's only logiical that God would not incidte anyone, nevertheless, His own people
to sin against Him. It was Satan, indirectly.

There is very little mention of the Adversary's spiritual kingdom in the Old Testament and God took the blame. The secrecy of the Devil and his host of devil spirits was revealed when Christ came and which can be seen in the Gospels.

In the Jewish Faith, angels of the lord have no free will. The Satan is more like the prosecuting attorney rather than an opponent, trying to steal souls. That whole
"Devil and his host of Devil Spirits" is just to much like polytheism to me

[Alethes]

101 Clear Contradictions In The Bible Contradiction 1 Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? (a) God did (2 Samuel 24:1) (b) Satan did (1 Chronicles 21:1).

It's only logiical that God would not incidte anyone, nevertheless, His own people
to sin against Him. It was Satan, indirectly.

There is very little mention of the Adversary's spiritual kingdom in the Old Testament and God took the blame. The secrecy of the Devil and his host of devil spirits was revealed when Christ came and which can be seen in the Gospels.

In the Jewish Faith, angels of the lord have no free will. The Satan is more like the prosecuting attorney rather than an opponent, trying to steal souls. That whole "Devil and his host of Devil Spirits" is just to much like polytheism to me

That may be according to the Jewish faith; however, that is not what the Word of God teaches. When Christ was present on earth, he exposed the Devil and His host of devil spirits. The Church Episitles teach how we are to stand against the wiles of the Devil and his kingdom. Satan, the "god of this world" and those who follow him (devil spirits and those who worship him) are well in the workings today and they do plan on taking a vacation.