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He who restrains

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He who restrains:
Christians have been warned, that before the Lord returns, 2 Thessalonians 2:3, "there will come a falling away first,' before the man of sin is revealed, also called the son of perdition."

2 Thessalonians 2:7-8, “For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth (restrains, will do so) until he is taken out of the way. And then shall the Wicked (lawless one) be revealed, whom the Lord (Jesus) shall consume with the spirit (breath) of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders”

The counterwork to the above is the mystery of godliness.

1 Timothy 3:16, “Without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God (Jesus) was manifest in the flesh, justified in the (Holy) Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”

In 2 Thessalonians, we have three pronouns in these verses. So, we are speaking of male individuals.

Questions: Who do you think the restrainer is? And why?

And who is do you think the lawless one is?

Whoever the restrainer is when taken out of the way, the mystery will then be an open manifestation. A system of corrupt doctrine that will lead to the general apostasy, an apostasy that has existed since John's Day.

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[Replying to BrotherBerry in post #10]

Let me ask this one question before I give my response to the above question.

"“Can the church survive without the Holy Spirit.”

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BrotherBerry wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 2:53 pm You believe angels will mix the DNA of humans? I never heard of your interpretation.
Yes. I recommend watching this...



The Ten Kings are not some silly geo-political group or league of nations or whatever. That is all just clickbait for the masses to be entertained by.

The Ten Kings are Fallen Angels that will kick-off the whole end times deal with the Mark of the Beast, which is the verse I referenced about mingling seed. In other words it is Transhumanism.

The Beast will be the final Antichrist in the list of seven. It will be manmade, i.e. the Image of the Beast *is* the final Beast.
BrotherBerry wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 2:53 pm You're saying the apostasy is angel hybrids?
Precisely. Just like when the Sons of God left their first estate and mingled with Earth women to create Giants/Nephilim, the process will repeat itself. The Apostacy/Rebellion whatever you wish to call it is the rebellion from Heaven. It is a way bigger deal than most realize. Again, it is part of the Mark of the Beast.

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Many falsely assume that Abaddon/Apollyon is the 'bad guy' or even Satan. He is in fact a good guy.

Abaddon/Apollyon works for God by destroying the wicked in the Lake of Fire. He also keeps the Fallen Angles in chains.

It is this 'Strong Man' that must be taken out of the way so that the wicked ones can escape.

The False Prophet is given the Key to the Bottomless Pit to help the Man of Sin sit in the Body Temple.

In other words, the False Prophet will prepare a Body for Satan to inhabit. That is the Image of the Beast.

We are almost there. Who knows, maybe Elon Musk is the False Prophet that will open the Abyss with the Key of Artificial Intelligence.

We shall see.

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BrotherBerry wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 2:53 pm
Base12 wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 2:47 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:53 am ...false religion, particularly Christendom...
Your post is filled with false dogma that Christendom preaches. I find it rather ironic. You preach division and hate as they do.

God is not going to dissolve the Heavens and Earth because someone has a different faith, religion, belief, etc. than you. That is not what Salvation is about.

I would suggest you become more familiar with this verse...

Daniel 2:43
"And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay."

The Fallen Angels are coming. They will mingle themselves with the DNA of Man. We have way bigger problems than 'false religions'. Finger pointing will get you nowhere.

What happened before the Flood is happening now. Fallen Angel/Human Hybrids. You better wake up would be my advice.

Again, the Falling Away is this...

Daniel 8:10
"And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them."


Falling Stars are not meteors.
You believe angels will mix the DNA of humans? I never heard of your interpretation. You're saying the apostasy is angel hybrids?
Let me add a thought to that. John sees two beasts. The first rises "Up out of the sea." Note, "out of" did not come from the sea. He came from below the surface of the sea.

The second beast, "came up out of the earth." Not from the earth, but from beneath the earth.

I understand that there are powerful fallen demons who have been trapped in hell until they are released when the great tribulation begins, will somehow unite with the soul and spirit of men like
Adolph Hitler, or Nero, put on flesh, have all the powers of the underworld behind them, and claim to be Christ Jesus. The second beast will be his High Priest, having all the powers of Satan in him. A miracle worker like Christ.

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placebofactor wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 11:29 am
BrotherBerry wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 2:53 pm
Base12 wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 2:47 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:53 am ...false religion, particularly Christendom...
Your post is filled with false dogma that Christendom preaches. I find it rather ironic. You preach division and hate as they do.

God is not going to dissolve the Heavens and Earth because someone has a different faith, religion, belief, etc. than you. That is not what Salvation is about.

I would suggest you become more familiar with this verse...

Daniel 2:43
"And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay."

The Fallen Angels are coming. They will mingle themselves with the DNA of Man. We have way bigger problems than 'false religions'. Finger pointing will get you nowhere.

What happened before the Flood is happening now. Fallen Angel/Human Hybrids. You better wake up would be my advice.

Again, the Falling Away is this...

Daniel 8:10
"And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them."


Falling Stars are not meteors.
You believe angels will mix the DNA of humans? I never heard of your interpretation. You're saying the apostasy is angel hybrids?
Let me add a thought to that. John sees two beasts. The first rises "Up out of the sea." Note, "out of" did not come from the sea. He came from below the surface of the sea.

The second beast, "came up out of the earth." Not from the earth, but from beneath the earth.

I understand that there are powerful fallen demons who have been trapped in hell until they are released when the great tribulation begins, will somehow unite with the soul and spirit of men like
Adolph Hitler, or Nero, put on flesh, have all the powers of the underworld behind them, and claim to be Christ Jesus. The second beast will be his High Priest, having all the powers of Satan in him. A miracle worker like Christ.
The demons are not "trapped in hell." Hell = mankind's grave. Not a place of burning fire. Also, the demons have full access to the goings-on above ground. Theirs is "the authority of the air." The scripture says: "...In which you at one time walked according to the system of things of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit that now operates in the sons of disobedience." (Ephesians 2:2) When the demons were consigned to "Tartarus," they were not in a particular place, but were in spiritual darkness. "Certainly if God did not hold back from punishing the angels that sinned, but, by throwing them into Tartarus, delivered them to pits of dense darkness to be reserved for judgment..." (II Peter 2:4) So, it couldn't be that Tartarus is a particular place, because the demons are operating in "the air," and influencing all of Satan's worldly governments and the merchants and religions. (I John 5:19)

The demons won't be "released" when the Great Tribulation begins. They will be incarcerated, if you will, for a thousand years and THEN let loose one last time.

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