Why are Trans Women Always the Ones Complaining?

[Purple Knight]

Question for Debate: Do any of these options describe a plausible reason all the outrage seems to be coming from trans women, and we never hear a peep from trans men? Is there some other option? Is there only a perceived disparity?

J.K Rowling got in trouble for not even saying, but very loosely implying, that only biological women used to be considered women. Trans women want into women's sports. Why aren't complaints of discrimination from trans men as ubiquitous?

I see a couple of potential reasons.

1. Biological women have been unfairly protected from competition and want to protect their privilege.
This is probably the most likely option. The trans women are right about unfair discrimination, and it's all real and totally bad-faith motivated.

2. Some or even most of the outrage may be in pursuit of unfair, unearned privilege.
We can't discount this, because, after all, trans women left an unprotected class and entered into a protected one. To say that none of them are motivated by pursuit of privilege is a big assumption.

It may even be a combination of 1 and 2. But I'll present a third option nobody has ever considered before.

3. It's all a colossal misunderstanding.
There actually isn't any unfair discrimination. It's a misunderstanding due to what female culture is. Female culture is... not nice. To men, women appear as pure sweetness and light, but that's not how they treat one another. They constantly exclude, harass, and mentally torture each other, all while appearing to be "the nice one" to any men looking. They get away with it because men are stupid (...in that way...) and genetically programmed to fall for it, because every time a man is stupid, and falls for the deception, he picks the alpha female who is best at deceit, passive-aggression, and coming out on top, thus helping his offspring. But cross that bridge and become a woman, and the grass is no longer so green on that side. The fact that women exclude you for having a penis seems like discrimination, but it isn't, because if it was a wart, and they could get away with it, they would act exactly the same. By harassing you, making you feel unwelcome, dehumanising you, calling you not a real woman, they are treating you as every bit the authentic woman. This is simply how they treat one another. Women get initiated into this when they're about nine. If you weren't presenting as female when you were nine, or at very least in middle- or high-school, you are missing context.

[marke]

Question for Debate: Do any of these options describe a plausible reason all the outrage seems to be coming from trans women, and we never hear a peep from trans men? Is there some other option? Is there only a perceived disparity?

J.K Rowling got in trouble for not even saying, but very loosely implying, that only biological women used to be considered women. Trans women want into women's sports. Why aren't complaints of discrimination from trans men as ubiquitous?

I see a couple of potential reasons.

1. Biological women have been unfairly protected from competition and want to protect their privilege.
This is probably the most likely option. The trans women are right about unfair discrimination, and it's all real and totally bad-faith motivated.

2. Some or even most of the outrage may be in pursuit of unfair, unearned privilege.
We can't discount this, because, after all, trans women left an unprotected class and entered into a protected one. To say that none of them are motivated by pursuit of privilege is a big assumption.

It may even be a combination of 1 and 2. But I'll present a third option nobody has ever considered before.

3. It's all a colossal misunderstanding.
There actually isn't any unfair discrimination. It's a misunderstanding due to what female culture is. Female culture is... not nice. To men, women appear as pure sweetness and light, but that's not how they treat one another. They constantly exclude, harass, and mentally torture each other, all while appearing to be "the nice one" to any men looking. They get away with it because men are stupid (...in that way...) and genetically programmed to fall for it, because every time a man is stupid, and falls for the deception, he picks the alpha female who is best at deceit, passive-aggression, and coming out on top, thus helping his offspring. But cross that bridge and become a woman, and the grass is no longer so green on that side. The fact that women exclude you for having a penis seems like discrimination, but it isn't, because if it was a wart, and they could get away with it, they would act exactly the same. By harassing you, making you feel unwelcome, dehumanising you, calling you not a real woman, they are treating you as every bit the authentic woman. This is simply how they treat one another. Women get initiated into this when they're about nine. If you weren't presenting as female when you were nine, or at very least in middle- or high-school, you are missing context.

Transgenderism is an affront to decency, logic, and common sense.

[Clownboat]

Transgenderism is an affront to decency, logic, and common sense.

FYI... this is a debate forum. Not a forum to spread hate.
Do you have a question that you would like to ask to see if there is something worth debating or did you really just need to get this off of your chest? If so (the latter), I do hope you feel better.

[marke]

Transgenderism is an affront to decency, logic, and common sense.

FYI... this is a debate forum. Not a forum to spread hate.
Do you have a question that you would like to ask to see if there is something worth debating or did you really just need to get this off of your chest? If so (the latter), I do hope you feel better.

You seem aligned with those democrats and leftists who hate Trump, conservative Christians and republicans, and want them silenced or dead.

[Clownboat]

Transgenderism is an affront to decency, logic, and common sense.

FYI... this is a debate forum. Not a forum to spread hate.
Do you have a question that you would like to ask to see if there is something worth debating or did you really just need to get this off of your chest? If so (the latter), I do hope you feel better.

You seem aligned with those democrats and leftists who hate Trump, conservative Christians and republicans, and want them silenced or dead.

The amount of wrongness that I continue to read in your posts is astounding. Seriously, it is truly amazing just how wrong you continue to be.
Either way, this is to be place for debate, not war. You seem to be on here looking for people to war with and only you can fix that.

I was hoping you had something worthy of debating here, but sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case. Pretend I am whatever it is you need to think me to be, it matters not.

[marke]

Transgenderism is an affront to decency, logic, and common sense.

FYI... this is a debate forum. Not a forum to spread hate.
Do you have a question that you would like to ask to see if there is something worth debating or did you really just need to get this off of your chest? If so (the latter), I do hope you feel better.

You seem aligned with those democrats and leftists who hate Trump, conservative Christians and republicans, and want them silenced or dead.

The amount of wrongness that I continue to read in your posts is astounding. Seriously, it is truly amazing just how wrong you continue to be.
Either way, this is to be place for debate, not war. You seem to be on here looking for people to war with and only you can fix that.

I was hoping you had something worthy of debating here, but sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case. Pretend I am whatever it is you need to think me to be, it matters not.

I'm sorry you think those who disagree with you are hateful and warlike. I hold no animosity and mean no harm by expressing my opinions freely like others here.

[Clownboat]

I'm sorry you think those who disagree with you are hateful and warlike. I hold no animosity and mean no harm by expressing my opinions freely like others here.

If only it was mere disagreement, but it is not.
"You seem aligned with those democrats and leftists who hate Trump, conservative Christians and republicans, and want them silenced or dead."
I do not simply disagree that this caricature that you level at me is incorrect. It just IS incorrect.

Also, I do not 'think' (because I can't know) that you are here to be hateful or warlike, just that it 'seemed' you were looking for people to war with. (Due to saying things like quoted above).

To try to get back on topic and as to what got me involved:
"Do you have a question that you would like to ask to see if there is something worth debating...?

[Purple Knight]

[Replying to Clownboat in post #16]

I think what people mean when they say that it's an affront to common sense is that ultimately, things are what they are, and not what they say they are.

They mean that categorisation is fundamental, and at the end of the day, it's sad, but the category you are in, is not up to you.

To prove this, I can have a biological woman claim to be a trans woman. She will be invalidated even if that upsets her. She will be told that words have meanings and she is what she is, not what she identifies as, and too bad if sad.

There is absolutely nothing different about doing this with the word woman instead of the word trans. It's just that the former is considered horrible and evil and transphobic, and the latter is just considered common sense. The truth is that each is both common sense and hurtful, but in one case it's considered unacceptable and in one case too bad so sad words can't hurt you. It's the type of thing slightly autistic sad sacks like me have a problem with and can't fully understand or accept.

[Clownboat]

I agree!

Neato!

FYI... this is a debate forum and one liners are against the rules you agreed to when you signed up.
Do you have a question that you would like to ask to see if there is something worth debating? I hope your username is not too telling.