HOW DO THE DEAD BURY THE DEAD?

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HOW DO THE DEAD BURY THE DEAD?

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The majority of people have been taught to take the Bible at face value, yet when they come across difficult to understand passages, they make up the rules of Bible study as they go. All the while ignoring that Jesus (The Word of God) did not speak without parables (Mt 13:34). Well, a passage that challenges the literal doctrinal approach is Matthew 8:22.

Matthew 8:21–22 (KJV 1900)
And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. 22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.


How does someone who is dead bury someone who is dead? Well, when we understand that the Bible is a parable and that God speaks of two types of dead people (the physically dead and the spiritually dead), then we can understand two important things with this passage. One, is that God makes a distinction between the two types of dead people, those who are dead spiritually (meaning they have a dead soul) and those who are dead physically.

The second, is that God doesn't always spell things out for us in the immediate verse, but requires us us to search and compare scripture with scripture in order to put the pieces of the puzzle together in order to see the whole picture. But my question for those who only see the Bible as a literal textbook, how do the dead bury the dead?

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1213 wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 3:31 pm
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I agree that they are not the same, but spirit is not a parable in the Bible, it is something real. If you think spirit is a parable, please explain what it is a parable for?
I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here, but I will say that parables certainly do represent real things. They are not literally true but represent something that certainly is true.
Ok, so, do you mean that spirit is a parable? If yes, what does it represent?
No I do not mean “that spirit is a parable.” What Christ spoke was a parable as in he is comparing “the dead” to those who are carnal minded, who chase after the things of the flesh rather than things of the spirit. In other words, they are spiritually dead. They cannot hear or see spiritual truths.

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63

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EBA wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:10 pm No I do not mean “that spirit is a parable.” What Christ spoke was a parable as in he is comparing “the dead” to those who are carnal minded, who chase after the things of the flesh rather than things of the spirit. In other words, they are spiritually dead. They cannot hear or see spiritual truths.
Ok, thank you. I don't think you have to agree with me, but I still think it is not a parable, they are really spiritually dead.

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1213 wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:24 am Ok, thank you. I don't think you have to agree with me, but I still think it is not a parable, they are really spiritually dead.
Yes they are really spiritually dead (deaf, blind, carnal minded people) but Christ does not say they are spiritually dead; he simply calls them “the dead.” So you should at the very least realize that he is not speaking plainly.

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Jesus was talking about the spiritually dead burying their dead.

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onewithhim wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:57 am [Replying to Eddie Ramos in post #1]

Jesus was talking about the spiritually dead burying their dead.
No, Jesus was referring to the human father of one of His disciples:

Matthew 8:21 And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father.

22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.


Was the disciple's father "spiritually dead" -- whatever that is?

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myth-one.com wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:37 pm
onewithhim wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:57 am [Replying to Eddie Ramos in post #1]

Jesus was talking about the spiritually dead burying their dead.
No, Jesus was referring to the human father of one of His disciples:

Matthew 8:21 And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father.

22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.


Was the disciple's father "spiritually dead" -- whatever that is?
Obviously the disciple's family was spiritually dead.

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onewithhim wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:54 am
myth-one.com wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:37 pm
onewithhim wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:57 am [Replying to Eddie Ramos in post #1]

Jesus was talking about the spiritually dead burying their dead.
No, Jesus was referring to the human father of one of His disciples:

Matthew 8:21 And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father.

22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.


Was the disciple's father "spiritually dead" -- whatever that is?
Obviously the disciple's family was spiritually dead.
And for certain, they were pink. No one can doubt that obvious fact!

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myth-one.com wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:57 am
onewithhim wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:54 am
myth-one.com wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:37 pm
onewithhim wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:57 am [Replying to Eddie Ramos in post #1]

Jesus was talking about the spiritually dead burying their dead.
No, Jesus was referring to the human father of one of His disciples:

Matthew 8:21 And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father.

22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.


Was the disciple's father "spiritually dead" -- whatever that is?
Obviously the disciple's family was spiritually dead.
And for certain, they were pink. No one can doubt that obvious fact!
I'm sorry. What does being "pink" mean.

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onewithhim wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:20 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:57 am
onewithhim wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:54 am
myth-one.com wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:37 pm
onewithhim wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:57 am [Replying to Eddie Ramos in post #1]

Jesus was talking about the spiritually dead burying their dead.
No, Jesus was referring to the human father of one of His disciples:

Matthew 8:21 And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father.

22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.


Was the disciple's father "spiritually dead" -- whatever that is?
Obviously the disciple's family was spiritually dead.
And for certain, they were pink. No one can doubt that obvious fact!
I'm sorry. What does being "pink" mean.
It is as meaningless as a dead spirit.

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[Replying to myth-one.com in post #19]

Myth, you don't believe that someone could be spiritually dead?

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