The title "son of God" is frequent in the Old Testament. The word "son" was employed among the Semites to signify not only filiation, but other close connexion or intimate relationship. Thus, "a son of strength" was a hero, a warrior, "son of wickedness" a wicked man, "sons of pride" wild beasts, "son of possession" a possessor, "son of pledging" a hostage, "son of lightning" a swift bird, "son of death" one doomed to death, "son of a bow" an arrow, "son of Belial" a wicked man, "sons of prophets" disciples of prophets etc. The title "son of God" was applied in the Old Testament to persons having any special relationship with God. Angels, just and pious men, the descendants of Seth, were called "sons of God" (Job 1:6; 2:1; Psalm 89:7; Wisdom 2:13; etc.). In a similar manner it was given to Israelites (Deuteronomy 14:50); and of Israel, as a nation, we read: "And thou shalt say to him: Thus saith the Lord: Israel is my son, my firstborn. I have said to thee: Let my son go, that he may serve me" (Exodus 4:22 sq.).
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QUESTION If a copyist changes one of the lower case "s" to an upper case "S" does that make the individual God?
Were all or any of these the "sons of God"?
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Re: Were all or any of these the "sons of God"?
Post #11God can have more than one son. However, when the concept of being God’s son is applied to nation as a whole then that has a much different meaning then an individual claiming to be the son of God.polonius wrote:
RESPONSE: OK
Exodus 4:22" Israel is my son my first born let my son go so he can serve me"
Psalms 2:7
I will tell of the decree: The LORD said to me, “You are my Son; today I have begotten you.
Hosea 11:1
When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and out of Egypt I called My son.
Question: But why can't God have more than one son?
More to the point, your claim was: “The title "son of God" is frequent in the Old Testament.�
The passages you cited all discuss the concept of being God’s son, but none of them use the title “son of God.�
It is similar to the difference between being an American leader in concept verses actually having the title of POTUS.
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Re: Were all or any of these the "sons of God"?
Post #12Psalm 2.7 King David.bjs wrote:
The passages you cited all discuss the concept of being God’s son, but none of them use the title “son of God.�
Not only that, David is called the begotten Son of YHVH, by YHVH Himself.. If you want to quibble about verbatim and the order of the words, so be it. But that is the meaning of the phrase and the sentence.. David is an example of at least one individual who is designated "Son of God" in the Hebrew Bible.I will tell of the decree: Jehovah said unto me, Thou art my son; This day have I begotten thee.
My theological positions:
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
Re: Were all or any of these the "sons of God"?
Post #13[Please read my post. Then quote any example from the Old Testament where title “son of God� (singular) is applied to an individual in the Old Testament.}
None of the passage you have cited do so.[/quote]
RESPONSE: OK
Now I have. Aren't you familiar with any of these, or do you only read selective passages of the Bible to support your beliefs?
Exodus 4:22" Israel is my son my first born let my son go so he can serve me"
Psalms 2:7
I will tell of the decree: The LORD said to me, “You are my Son; today I have begotten you.
Hosea 11:1
When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and out of Egypt I called My son.
Question: But why can't God have more than one son?[/quote]
God can have more than one son. However, when the concept of being God’s son is applied to nation as a whole then that has a much different meaning then an individual claiming to be the son of God.
More to the point, your claim was: “The title "son of God" is frequent in the Old Testament.�
The passages you cited all discuss the concept of being God’s son, but none of them use the title “son of God.�
RESPONSE: A "son of God" is God's son. What are you claiming otherwise?
None of the passage you have cited do so.[/quote]
RESPONSE: OK
Now I have. Aren't you familiar with any of these, or do you only read selective passages of the Bible to support your beliefs?
Exodus 4:22" Israel is my son my first born let my son go so he can serve me"
Psalms 2:7
I will tell of the decree: The LORD said to me, “You are my Son; today I have begotten you.
Hosea 11:1
When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and out of Egypt I called My son.
Question: But why can't God have more than one son?[/quote]
God can have more than one son. However, when the concept of being God’s son is applied to nation as a whole then that has a much different meaning then an individual claiming to be the son of God.
More to the point, your claim was: “The title "son of God" is frequent in the Old Testament.�
The passages you cited all discuss the concept of being God’s son, but none of them use the title “son of God.�
RESPONSE: A "son of God" is God's son. What are you claiming otherwise?
Re: Were all or any of these the "sons of God"?
Post #14polonius wrote: [Please read my post. Then quote any example from the Old Testament where title “son of God� (singular) is applied to an individual in the Old Testament.}
None of the passage you have cited do so.
RESPONSE: OK
Now I have. Aren't you familiar with any of these, or do you only read selective passages of the Bible to support your beliefs?
Exodus 4:22" Israel is my son my first born let my son go so he can serve me"
Psalms 2:7
I will tell of the decree: The LORD said to me, “You are my Son; today I have begotten you.
Hosea 11:1
When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and out of Egypt I called My son.
Question: But why can't God have more than one son?[/quote]
RESPONSEGod can have more than one son. However, when the concept of being God’s son is applied to nation as a whole then that has a much different meaning then an individual claiming to be the son of God.
Maybe that's why God isn't using the term "nation."???
More to the point, your claim was: “The title "son of God" is frequent in the Old Testament.�
The passages you cited all discuss the concept of being God’s son, but none of them use the title “son of God.�
RESPONSE: A "son of God" is God's son. What are you claiming otherwise?[/quote]
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We are , all, God's sons. Does not your scripture state ye are gods?
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