Lioness Kills Man

[sue]

Lioness in zoo kills man who invoked God

Mon Jun 5, 8:31 AM ET

KIEV (Reuters) - A man shouting that God would keep him safe was mauled to death by a lioness in Kiev zoo after he crept into the animal's enclosure, a zoo official said on Monday.

"The man shouted 'God will save me, if he exists', lowered himself by a rope into the enclosure, took his shoes off and went up to the lions," the official said.

"A lioness went straight for him, knocked him down and severed his carotid artery."

The incident, Sunday evening when the zoo was packed with visitors, was the first of its kind at the attraction. Lions and tigers are kept in an "animal island" protected by thick concrete blocks.

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My question is simple: why did the lion kill the man?

[Marishiten]

O the Linoess incident. I'm sorry, but I giggled at that. Natural Selection at work everyone - the dude was obviously not right in the head and was therefore obliterated from the face of this planet.

Yes maybe I sound cruel, but that's the way it would work in the animal world. OUR only problem is that we as humans impede Natural Selection. Occasionally it comes through though.

My only dismay is that the lioness will probably be put down.

I mean, if you're a carniverous animal and a piece of meat drops into your cage what WOULD you do??

[Righteous Indignation]

"And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:
Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions." (Hebrews 11:32-33 King James Version)

Sarcasm > I guess the man in Kiev just didn’t have enough faith. <Sarcasm

[sue]

"And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:
Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions." (Hebrews 11:32-33 King James Version)

Sarcasm > I guess the man in Kiev just didn’t have enough faith. <Sarcasm

I do enjoy wondering if he'd have survived if he'd simply said "God will save me" and left out the "if" clause.

[pepo1]

I would agree with you. However, the writers of the Bible do not. Would you like a list?

Yes, I'd like a list to be displayed so that people can see that in every case the saving was not done after someone deliberately tested God. Daniel, for example, had no option about going into the lion's den.

Just how does one distinguish between acts of faith and acts of insanity?

Yes, I've pondered this myself as in the example of strong atheists who put their complete faith in the non-existence of God despite there being a higher probability that one exists than one doesn't, and despite the fact that many scientists are already, or are becoming, theists and despite the fact that the vast majority of the earth's population already practises a faith or has an open mind about it.

I am sorry for your loss. I guess dying horrible deaths from cancer is just part of the loving Heavenly Father's plan. I am not trying to be flippant, but believers and unbelievers all indiscriminately die from cancer in other horrible ways. How can you still believe in God's loving kindness?

A common erroneous atheist argument in which atheists wonder why God doesn't just create a heaven on earth, despite the fact that, to most theists, heaven doesn't happen until AFTER death.

[McCulloch]

I think God wants us to do sane things and not to be totally stupid by confronting lions, just asking to be mauled.

I would agree with you. However, the writers of the Bible do not. Would you like a list?

Yes, I'd like a list to be displayed so that people can see that in every case the saving was not done after someone deliberately tested God. Daniel, for example, had no option about going into the lion's den.

God told Abraham to sacrifice his son.
How about Ezekiel and the priests of Baal?

Just how does one distinguish between acts of faith and acts of insanity?

Yes, I've pondered this myself as in the example of strong atheists who put their complete faith in the non-existence of God despite there being a higher probability that one exists than one doesn't, and despite the fact that many scientists are already, or are becoming, theists and despite the fact that the vast majority of the earth's population already practises a faith or has an open mind about it.

Please support your assertion (not fact) that many scientists are now or are becoming theists. Educated people have been shown to be less likely to believe in God then the general population.

Look up "argumentum ad populum"

[Caligar]

Just how does one distinguish between acts of faith and acts of insanity?

I think thats covered in the "Though shalt not test the lord thy God" entry in the bible. If you jump into a bunch of lions and say "God will save me", I think thats firmly withing the realm of "testing" God.

[McCulloch]

Just how does one distinguish between acts of faith and acts of insanity?

I think thats covered in the "Though shalt not test the lord thy God" entry in the bible. If you jump into a bunch of lions and say "God will save me", I think thats firmly withing the realm of "testing" God.

And if you think that God told you to kill someone and you go ahead and try, that is called faith or insanity?

[Confused]

Just how does one distinguish between acts of faith and acts of insanity?

I think thats covered in the "Though shalt not test the lord thy God" entry in the bible. If you jump into a bunch of lions and say "God will save me", I think thats firmly withing the realm of "testing" God.

And if you think that God told you to kill someone and you go ahead and try, that is called faith or insanity?

Actually, I think it would be called schizophrenia, or at a minimum schizoaffective disorder. But I guess medicine need not apply to religion. God will lead you down the right path, unless it is the devil in sheeps clothing. I wonder how one tells one apart? I am sorry, very unprofessional of me.

Matthew 6:24 Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life etc.......

This is just one of many passages in which Christ teaches that those with faith need not worry about anything, that Christ will see them through. This could be applied to anything like your next meal to your next viral infection. This Lioness attack is nothing new. Many do stupid things with the thought that Christ will protect them. I have to agreee with whoever it was who said "population control". We really don't need this man to contribute to the current genetic pool. we have enough ignorant contributions as it is.

[bernee51]

...strong atheists who put their complete faith in the non-existence of God despite there being a higher probability that one exists than one doesn't,

You've worked out the probability of a god existing? Obviously you believe it to be greater (in god's favour0 thaqn 50:50. How much greater/ How was it worked out?

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... that the vast majority of the earth's population already practises a faith or has an open mind about it.

Your point being? A lot of people have a belief in some god/religion - so what?

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A common erroneous atheist argument in which atheists wonder why God doesn't just create a heaven on earth, despite the fact that, to most theists, heaven doesn't happen until AFTER death.

Atheists (this one anyway) do not 'wonder' any such thing...how can a non-existent god do anything?
It is a pity though that theists believe this - they risk missing out on experiencing the heaven that is this life.

[Caligar]

Just how does one distinguish between acts of faith and acts of insanity?

I think thats covered in the "Though shalt not test the lord thy God" entry in the bible. If you jump into a bunch of lions and say "God will save me", I think thats firmly withing the realm of "testing" God.

And if you think that God told you to kill someone and you go ahead and try, that is called faith or insanity?

It depends. If they are hearing voices in there head telling them to kill someone, they are crazy. If someone under the guise of God tricks them into doing it, then they where tricked, and being foolish isn't a mental disorder.