Christianity is killing America

[tytlyf]

Christians make up about 80% of America. Christians are told to be and predominantly Conservative.

Conservative (dictionary):
Disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.

On the other hand you have Liberals or also known as Progressives

Liberal (dictionary):
Favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

As the world passes America by in technology and education, what do YOU think could be the contributing factor?

[tytlyf]

The problem here is that you're going off of dictionary definitions for politically philosophical terms. First, let's start off by throwing out your loaded assumption that the world is passing America in technology and education. Granted, I'll concede that Obama is stifling American technological innovation with policies like closing NASA, however in comparison to the rest of the World America is the freest country there is and while other countries may surpass us in education and innovation it has come at a cost.

Now, when speaking in terms of liberal and conservative we have to remember we're talking about America. Our markets run along the lines of a Capitalist system, our heritage is rooted in European Christianity, and our government is a constitutional republic. Conservatives wish to preserve these institutions and systems, liberals clearly want to change them and progress past them, which is why Liberals tend to be staunch supporters of socialism (the antithesis of Capitalism) secularism (the antithesis of Christianity, and Big/Bloated government (the antithesis of representative democracy, liberty and freedom. So, I'd say the people wishing to "kill" America, her heritage, and her values are liberals, not conservative Christians.

You really need to lay off the FearNews. I would assume you only watch one news station?

[Jester]

You really need to lay off the FearNews. I would assume you only watch one news station?

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[Shermana]

Christians make up about 80% of America. Christians are told to be and predominantly Conservative.

Conservative (dictionary):
Disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.

On the other hand you have Liberals or also known as Progressives

Liberal (dictionary):
Favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

As the world passes America by in technology and education, what do YOU think could be the contributing factor?

Technology can be attributed to the De-volution of society if anything.

People don't need to walk as much in a technological society, and also, and unless people are eating Organic food "Technological advances" in the food industry like the likes of Monsanto aren't exactly in our best interests. Fish-tomatoes most likely aren't meant to be eaten.

Pharmaceuticals end up in local water supplies.

The government is even admitting that flouride-in-the-water was an experiment, publicly. Was that some kind of technological advance that Flouride makes our teeth healtheir?

There is absolutely no scientific advance that actually disproves the idea of God.

If anything, the reason why they are spending billions on a Supercollider is to find the "Higgs Boson", which is called the "god particle" for a reason.

[Wyvern]

Technology can be attributed to the De-volution of society if anything.

Could you explain what you mean by this?

People don't need to walk as much in a technological society, and also, and unless people are eating Organic food "Technological advances" in the food industry like the likes of Monsanto aren't exactly in our best interests. Fish-tomatoes most likely aren't meant to be eaten.

Considering the chronic food shortages in many parts of the world I would say it is definately in our best interests to increase food production as much as possible by any means possible, unless you are advocating letting around a third of the worlds population starve to death. And of course if you take away most of the technological innovations(which you appear to be against) which has led to the ever greater production, transportation and preservation of food then you can write off closer to half of the worlds population. But hey the half that are left will all be eating organic locally grown foods. Don't think I've heard of this fish tomato you write about but it sounds tasty.

Pharmaceuticals end up in local water supplies.

My advice to you is to never go to a water treatment plant is you are concerned about ultra low levels of various chemicals.

There is absolutely no scientific advance that actually disproves the idea of God.

For that matter there is no scientific advance that disproves any god or fairies or pink unicorns or even teapots orbiting inbetween Mars and Earth. Now if you want us to believe in your specific god you had better find some evidence to convince us.

If anything, the reason why they are spending billions on a Supercollider is to find the "Higgs Boson", which is called the "god particle" for a reason.

You think your god is a subatomic particle? You might want to look into the reasons it was called that before you make an unfounded assumption. Titles that scientists bestow on things rarely means literally what it says, take the big bang for instance it was neither big nor did it bang and in fact it was a term bestowed upon it by a detractor of the theory. Think of it like when big people are called tiny.

[nygreenguy]

Technology can be attributed to the De-volution of society if anything.

People don't need to walk as much in a technological society, and also, and unless people are eating Organic food "Technological advances" in the food industry like the likes of Monsanto aren't exactly in our best interests. Fish-tomatoes most likely aren't meant to be eaten.

GM foods have allowed us to plant crops which need less irrigation and less pesticides. We have created rice enriched with vitamin a which is lacking in billions of peoples diets. At my university we are using it to bring back the american elm and the american chestnut by making them resistant to the imported diseases.

Pharmaceuticals end up in local water supplies.

And what exactly are the effects?

The government is even admitting that flouride-in-the-water was an experiment, publicly. Was that some kind of technological advance that Flouride makes our teeth healtheir?

Flouride in our water has been called one of the "Ten Great Public Health Achievements"

[Kuan]

Technology can be attributed to the De-volution of society if anything.

People don't need to walk as much in a technological society, and also, and unless people are eating Organic food "Technological advances" in the food industry like the likes of Monsanto aren't exactly in our best interests. Fish-tomatoes most likely aren't meant to be eaten.

GM foods have allowed us to plant crops which need less irrigation and less pesticides. We have created rice enriched with vitamin a which is lacking in billions of peoples diets. At my university we are using it to bring back the american elm and the american chestnut by making them resistant to the imported diseases.

Yes there are good sides to everything but what about high fructose corn syrup? Thats not natural and its in everything. With all the technology you dont need to be active. Plus all the unhealthy foods, ect.


Theres a reason the US is so fat.

Pharmaceuticals end up in local water supplies.

And what exactly are the effects?[/quote]
Tastes worst. I personally would like just H2O, not H2OMg. (Think I did that right)

I also bet there are side effects to the environments. Aquatic animals, vegetation, ect.

The government is even admitting that flouride-in-the-water was an experiment, publicly. Was that some kind of technological advance that Flouride makes our teeth healtheir?

Flouride in our water has been called one of the "Ten Great Public Health Achievements"

But why? Why does the government have to put chemicals in our water, cant we just brush our teeth?

[lastcallhall]

Christians make up about 80% of America. Christians are told to be and predominantly Conservative.

Conservative (dictionary):
Disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.

On the other hand you have Liberals or also known as Progressives

Liberal (dictionary):
Favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

As the world passes America by in technology and education, what do YOU think could be the contributing factor?

I think the biggest problem with America is apathy and complacency, it is a problem across the board no matter political, religious, or social standing. We have had it so good in America for so long we feel entitled to this great life. If we do not keep working hard to move forward I think we could be in trouble. Most people's biggest concern is what am I doing this weekend vs. how do we all get together and solve the big problems this country has. I think the blame can be spread out.

[East of Eden]

Considering you contradicted yourself in the space of two sentences yes I would like you to clearly state whether the US is or is not being surpassed in education and technology. Smearing the presidents name yet again doesn't really spell out your position.

Here's a case of Obama stiffling innovation and education. I guess the teacher's unions come before the kids.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpa ... chers.html

See also the movie, 'Waiting for Superman'.

[nygreenguy]

Yes there are good sides to everything but what about high fructose corn syrup?

What about it? Thats irrelevant to GM foods.

Thats not natural and its in everything.

What do you mean its not "natural"? Its fructose and glucose. Both are very natural.

Tastes worst. I personally would like just H2O, not H2OMg. (Think I did that right)

Have you ever tasted distilled water? That is pure h2o. It is NASTY. Mineralized water tastes FAR superior to "pure" h20.

but this is minerals, not pharmaceuticals. What does your statement have to do with pharmaceuticals?

I also bet there are side effects to the environments. Aquatic animals, vegetation, ect.

Yes

But why? Why does the government have to put chemicals in our water, cant we just brush our teeth?

Because it works. It still works. People still do not have proper brushing habits. If the government can do something which greatly benefits society, with little to no negatives, shouldnt they do it?

[Wyvern]

Considering you contradicted yourself in the space of two sentences yes I would like you to clearly state whether the US is or is not being surpassed in education and technology. Smearing the presidents name yet again doesn't really spell out your position.

Here's a case of Obama stiffling innovation and education. I guess the teacher's unions come before the kids.

Would you rather use the money being spent in this one program to benefit a very small percent of the school age children in the district or instead use that money to improve all of the schools in the district? The D.C. school district has been steadily improving over the years so I would say it makes much more sense to improve the overall district performance rather than the performance of a few individuals. My question to you is how is it a person such as yourself that has stated their disapproval of welfare is suddenly in favor of it when the welfare is directed towards an idea which you are in favor of in this case vouchers and private schools?