God in Arizona on TV now

Slopeshoulder · Post by **Slopeshoulder** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:51 pm

So far there have been three scripture readings and several references to God, faith and prayer by politicians at the memorial service (holder, napolitano, obama, governer and someone else). There was also a native american blessing ceremony.

Anybody bugged by this? Is this anti-constitution? Is that OK in this case either way? Is it being used in a "cultural" way vs. a theological way? is the ACLU on the way? etc?

nygreenguy · Post by **nygreenguy** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:27 pm

Darias wrote:
nygreenguy wrote:I dont think its helpful. People should learn to reflect inside to deal with their issues and not rely on a god who wont do anything to comfort you or ever stop things like this from happening.

Actually, I think its worse for the people.

Well from the religious tones I heard, I don't recall anything being said about expecting God to keep these things from happening...

I could be wrong but...

.. still. I think what Obama said at the end was fitting:

Obama wrote:If there are rain puddles in heaven, Christina is jumping in them today.
Now, even if you don't believe in heaven, I don't see why this is unsettling or disturbing or whatever...

It's appropriate for the setting.

I agree. I think my comments were more what surrounds this event as a whole.

Let's face it; America is a religious country -- whether we like the fundamentalism or not -- it's still religious. Countries that prohibit all expression of religion are countries like France -- where you are only free to express your Atheism. You can't wear crosses or hijabs in public schools. You certainly don't mention faith if you are running for office.

But I don't view France as a beacon of democracy whatsoever.

And I dont view america as a beacon of democracy either.

East of Eden · Post by **East of Eden** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:56 pm

nygreenguy wrote:And I dont view america as a beacon of democracy either.

Should be just cut up that Statue of Liberty for scrap metal?

nygreenguy · Post by **nygreenguy** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:03 am

East of Eden wrote:
nygreenguy wrote:And I dont view america as a beacon of democracy either.
Should be just cut up that Statue of Liberty for scrap metal?

No, we just need to put a sign under it saying "some exceptions may apply"

cnorman18 · Post by **cnorman18** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:25 pm

Sorry, but every time I see the title of this thread, I am reminded of a story that Scott Meredith told about a young and rather inexperienced reporter sent to cover the Johnstown Flood. His first story -- sent then by telegraph -- began, "God sits in judgment in Johnstown tonight."

One doesn't write hard news stories in that vein. His editor cabled back, "Forget flood. Interview God."

I get this visual of God appearing on some local morning show in Tucson or Phoenix. Would they offer him coffee?