Nuclear power

[lorene]

Prodding Republicans, President Barack Obama on Tuesday championed nuclear energy expansion as the latest way that feuding parties can move beyond the "broken politics" of Washington that have imperiled his agenda and soured voters.

Nuclear energy is not hte key to unity in politics.

This is ridiculous and shortsighted. If the president continues this type of reckless behavior, then the MAster will take issue, with the nuclear power plants to show the president that it is not in his or our best interest to go back down this road.

This is not going to happen, and if it does, then all will know it was Obama's mistake. Nuclear power has it's place, but now that place is in the past.


Do you believe that Nuclear energy can regroup all politcal parties behind this one agenda?

[Abraxas]

Again I would like to reintroduce nuclear fusion, a technology we are just beginning to master on a controlled level, a technology that offers the promise of virtually unlimited clean energy with none of the risks of nuclear fission. I would like to know if those who have problems with fission plants (though they are extremely reliable) would have a problem with building nuclear fusion plants once we have developed the technology to be efficient enough?

[Goat]

Again I would like to reintroduce nuclear fusion, a technology we are just beginning to master on a controlled level, a technology that offers the promise of virtually unlimited clean energy with none of the risks of nuclear fission. I would like to know if those who have problems with fission plants (though they are extremely reliable) would have a problem with building nuclear fusion plants once we have developed the technology to be efficient enough?

30 years ago, they said it would take 50 years to get them.

Now, we are still 50 years away..we have to worry about now for the next 50 years.

Let's see how things are once the technology is developed first.

[Abraxas]

Again I would like to reintroduce nuclear fusion, a technology we are just beginning to master on a controlled level, a technology that offers the promise of virtually unlimited clean energy with none of the risks of nuclear fission. I would like to know if those who have problems with fission plants (though they are extremely reliable) would have a problem with building nuclear fusion plants once we have developed the technology to be efficient enough?

30 years ago, they said it would take 50 years to get them.

Now, we are still 50 years away..we have to worry about now for the next 50 years.

Let's see how things are once the technology is developed first.

Not really true. They already have fusion reactors that produce nearly as much energy as they consume and very recently, new breakthroughs in laser technology have been able to replicate in hydrogen atoms the same temperatures found in the cores of stars. Indeed, according to the latest papers put out they expect to be running tests on controlled reactions that produce more energy than they consume this summer. While we may not see wide scale commercial reactors for another 40-50 years, the technology is getting to the point where test reactors could be (and are) being built.

[Goat]

Again I would like to reintroduce nuclear fusion, a technology we are just beginning to master on a controlled level, a technology that offers the promise of virtually unlimited clean energy with none of the risks of nuclear fission. I would like to know if those who have problems with fission plants (though they are extremely reliable) would have a problem with building nuclear fusion plants once we have developed the technology to be efficient enough?

30 years ago, they said it would take 50 years to get them.

Now, we are still 50 years away..we have to worry about now for the next 50 years.

Let's see how things are once the technology is developed first.

Not really true. They already have fusion reactors that produce nearly as much energy as they consume and very recently, new breakthroughs in laser technology have been able to replicate in hydrogen atoms the same temperatures found in the cores of stars. Indeed, according to the latest papers put out they expect to be running tests on controlled reactions that produce more energy than they consume this summer. While we may not see wide scale commercial reactors for another 40-50 years, the technology is getting to the point where test reactors could be (and are) being built.

I hope that you are right. I have been hearing about how close they were for so many years, I have gotten skeptical. And I hope that commerical reactors go up a heck of a lot sooner that even 20 years.

[Scotracer]

Why on earth would some deity care about nuclear power? You're not going to tell me it's in the bible, are you? It's far better than burning dead plants and animals.

And just wait until Nuclear Fusion plants come online.

[JoeyKnothead]

Why on earth would some deity care about nuclear power? You're not going to tell me it's in the bible, are you? It's far better than burning dead plants and animals.

And just wait until Nuclear Fusion plants come online.

I'd be curious to know if such objections are ultimately about man's control over the atom, and how that affects one's perception of God.

I disagree on the burning of dead plants. I love me some reefer

[lorene]

From Post 6:

Tell you the truth Joey, ...Hearing you say that, only makes me wish to use it more Smile Think what you need to i am not scared to be called racist or any other name....but fear no man, whether they use racial slurs or not, friend...

I don't much care about your stance on racism

Good..if i meant it racist, i'd have said..."massa".

hat's not why I challenge your claims regarding God and nuclear energy. That said, I note many theists reference the Bible in support of their own racism and other biases.

Beats me, the best argument i have ever heard for racism came from atheist skinheads and they were educated and used evolution to support their claims.

Here in Georgia, the USA, there's plenty data to suggest one should fear racists. Don't confuse this fear with an unwillingess to confront.

Whatever, please preach your badness somewhere else...thanks...and confront if you wish, i will watch and laugh.

So, are you saying you can't wait to see God take issue with the use of nuclear energy,

perhaps. He already has, though.

Please offer some means to show you speak truth.

I aready did Joey...

If you are unwilling to support or retract your own claims I have no recourse but to ask a moderator to step in.

Ask them...

The Savannah River Site. (Which is a great area for finding some of Georgia's rarest snake species)

Thanks, that one will work fine...

Are you saying God ain't happy with Georgia having nuclear energy sites?

Listen carefully...God is not happy with any of man's litte silly attempts....

If so, please offer some means to show you speak truth.

I already gave it to the world...(or is it, "I have already given it to the world?")

[Opinion noted. I disagree.

I truly hope so Joey. It will make things that much more sweeter for me.

I consider your misspelling of nuclear and energy an attempt to imply those who accept it as somehow less intelligent. I find such tactics childish and not conducive to civil debate.

Preach it elsewhere sir...I do not care to hear you assumptions as they are not conducive to intelligent conversation.

Are you aware that petroleum is considered a non-renewable energy source?

yes, I am...point?

This is highly indicative it will not "always" have a useful place in society.

Wrong again Joey...soon we will be able to stretch the supply infinitely...

It seems your concern with nuclear energy is your favored God doesn't like it.

Wow dude...you know...I have never seen one person make so many assumptions based on nothing...

If this is the case, I will ask you, as I have througout a couple posts now, to show you speak truth.

This makes no sense Joey...it reeks of disingenuous behavior.

Continually dodging that repeated challenge indicates you have no means to show you speak truth

Uh, if you'd actually care to reread, and use some comprehension this time, perhaps you'd see why i think your post are so funny...

and that youk the honor to retract claims for which you seemingly refuse to support.

This is silly..you really need to reread what is written and see you are making yourself a laughing stock.

Please call in the mods like you promised,...

And there will be no retraction Joey as there is no need to..

Lord willing i live i will be back tonight to finish talking to the others.

[JoeyKnothead]

From Post 19:

>snipping out irrelevant section on racism<

So, are you saying you can't wait to see God take issue with the use of nuclear energy,

perhaps. He already has, though.

Please offer some means to show you speak truth.

I aready did Joey...

Where?

Are you saying God ain't happy with Georgia having nuclear energy sites?

Listen carefully...God is not happy with any of man's litte silly attempts....

I already gave it to the world...(or is it, "I have already given it to the world?")

Please offer some means to show you speak truth.

I consider your misspelling of nuclear and energy an attempt to imply those who accept it as somehow less intelligent. I find such tactics childish and not conducive to civil debate.

Preach it elsewhere sir...I do not care to hear you assumptions as they are not conducive to intelligent conversation.

Then you lack the intelligence to spell them correctly?

Or you lack the intelligence to see that a deliberate attempt to imply others lack intelligence is childish and not conducive to civil debate?

Are you aware that petroleum is considered a non-renewable energy source?

yes, I am...point?

If something is non renewable, that means it can't be renewed. That means continual usaage will eventually deplete the supply.

This is highly indicative it will not "always" have a useful place in society.

Wrong again Joey...soon we will be able to stretch the supply infinitely...

Please show you speak truth.

It seems your concern with nuclear energy is your favored God doesn't like it.

Wow dude...you know...I have never seen one person make so many assumptions based on nothing...

I leave it to the observer to consider the following:

Are you saying God ain't happy with Georgia having nuclear energy sites?

Listen carefully...God is not happy with any of man's litte silly attempts....

If you are unwilling, or unable to clarify your statements, I contend it is a reasonable and logical assumption to think you're claiming God is not happy with humans using nuclear power.

>on the reference to God and nuclear power<

If this is the case, I will ask you, as I have througout a couple posts now, to show you speak truth.

This makes no sense Joey...it reeks of disingenuous behavior.

You got a lot of gall talking about disingenuous behavior.

Let me ask this in as simple a form as I can...

Do you, lorene, contend God is not happy with folks using nuclear power?

I challenge you to answer that question with a simple yes or no, with any following comments of course.

Continually dodging that repeated challenge indicates you have no means to show you speak truth

Uh, if you'd actually care to reread, and use some comprehension this time, perhaps you'd see why i think your post are so funny...

I'm just trying to get at the truth of your claims. As you continually create new forms of avoiding responsibility for your claims don't be surprised when the observers' laughter drowns out your own.

This is silly..you really need to reread what is written and see you are making yourself a laughing stock.

Please call in the mods like you promised,...

I can't because you keep dodging responsibility for your overt or implied claims. When I can pin you down to what you're actually meaning, perhaps then we can get a real answer out of you.

You, like so many theists, are too slippery when it comes to your own claims for me to call for intervention at this time.

And there will be no retraction Joey as there is no need to..

I've long since learned so many theists don't feel the need to retract claims they can't support. I've long since learned they will dodge that responsibility at all costs.

I ask again...

Do you, lorene, contend God is not happy with folks using nuclear power?

[lorene]

Where?

I already gave it to the world...(or is it, "I have already given it to the world?")

Please offer some means to show you speak truth.

Please eread what is written.

Then you lack the intelligence to spell them correctly?

Or you lack the intelligence to see that a deliberate attempt to imply others lack intelligence is childish and not conducive to civil debate?

Or you can just run forwrd thinking (or not thinking more liklyf)you know something when you have no reason to even consider it other than your own misunderstandings? Sounds very atheistic of you.

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quote="joeyknuccione"]
Are you aware that petroleum is considered a non-renewable energy source?

yes, I am...point?

If something is non renewable, that means it can't be renewed. That means continual usaage will eventually deplete the supply.

No Joey. We will not...'eventually run out'...we will never run out..

It seems your concern with nuclear energy is your favored God doesn't like it.

Wow dude...you know...I have never seen one person make so many assumptions based on nothing...

I leave it to the observer to consider the following:

ok...

Are you saying God ain't happy with Georgia having nuclear energy sites?

Listen carefully...God is not happy with any of man's litte silly attempts....

If you are unwilling, or unable to clarify your statements, I contend it is a reasonable and logical assumption to think you're claiming God is not happy with humans using nuclear power.

You contend?...hahaha..that'll be the day...One quote has you asking if God likes it the next has you asking if God like us using it...two different questions Joey, but you'd have to actually notice what you wrote to see that.

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[quote][quote]This makes no sense Joey...it reeks of disingenuous behavior.[/quote]
You got a lot of gall talking about disingenuous behavior.[/quote]

I have not done anything underhanded nor have i 'jumped the gun" and ran off to tell others what they are saying or tried to come up with stupid questions out of the blue totally unrelated to what they were saying...[b]would you like to see some examples of you doing those things in this thread Joey[/b]?  that is you doing those things...not me...BUT...

and oh yeah pal...i have a lot of gall ...that is true..

[quote]Let me ask this in as simple a form as I can...

[b]Do you, lorene, contend God is not happy with folks using nuclear power?[/b][/quote]

Yes.  But that was not you original question Joey...[b]you have even shown so yourself above.[/b]

[quote][quote="lorene"]
[quote="joeyknuccione"]
Continually dodging that repeated challenge indicates you have no means to show you speak truth
[/quote]
Uh, if you'd actually care to reread, and use some comprehension this time, perhaps you'd see why i think your post are so funny...
[/quote]
I'm just trying to get at the truth of your claims.[/quote]

No you are not Joey, you have shown that already with disingenuous hints towards racism and other nonsense meant to do nothing but pump up yourself in your own eyes... :roll: .

[quote] As you continually create new forms of avoiding responsibility for [i]your claims[/i] don't be surprised when the observers' laughter drowns out your own.[/quote]

I am not at all concerned about that.  I will have the lst laugh and very few atheist will...even be left...much left laugh. :D  

[quote]I can't because you keep dodging responsibility for your overt or implied claims. [/quote]

You really need to take a reading comprehension class if you believe any of this stuff you are writing...

[quote]When I can pin you down to what you're actually meaning, perhaps then we can get a real answer out of you.[/quote]

You can't do that by making far out assumptions based on your own imgination Joey.


[quote]You, like so many theists, are too slippery when it comes to your own claims for me to call for intervention at this time.[/quote]

[b]Back peddling[/b]...Your friends better really laugh loud to drown me out now, cause i am rolling on the floor..

[quote][I've long since learned so many theists don't feel the need to retract claims they can't support.[/quote]

I have long since learned [b]most [/b]atheist cannot read with either comprehension or retainment..cannot have an honest discussion, cannot follow the topic, cannot understand what they have even said much less the other posters(as you displayed in your last post), then turn around and cry about others not being striaght with them... :D 

So we have both long since learned something Joey...

[lorene]

Joey's original question...

Is "the Master" the best term you could use here?

Are you implying your favored God may take issue? If so, I'd like to see some verificatin'.

Joey says..

It seems your concern with nuclear energy is your favored God doesn't like it.

changes(evolves) to..

Do you, lorene, contend God is not happy with folks using nuclear power?

then he claims...

you continually create new forms of avoiding responsibility

No Joey, I just know how to read what people write and stay within the parameters of what people say(using their words for or against them as the case may be) and not try to create what is not there...try it sometimes. It affords..honest and civil debate which you seem to be struggling to maintain so i will not continue this with you as you have lost all sense of civility and integrity as far as i can tell.

If we talk again on this forum, please try to be remember to be civil and honest next time if you can...as you have failed to do so from your opening post...

Have a nice day.