The Two Christs

[arth47]

-Gen 2:7:"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul".
-Gen 2:17:"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die".
-Gen 3:6: "And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat".
- 1 cor 15:47:"The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

Gen 3:23:"Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken".

Matt 16:24-25:Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

John 12:25:"He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal".


I have read so many articles and seen lots of videos online that suggest that the Biblical account of Jesus Birth,life on earth, death and resurrection were stolen from the account of some pagan savior gods who existed before Jesus came to the earth and blended into Christianity So I decided to address the Issue to make People understand why the similarities between the ancient accounts exist and to show that Nothing in Christianity has ever and would ever be taken from Paganism.



The people who claim these things often cite the similarities between the account of Osiris the Egyptian sun god who was killed by Set, the Egyptian god of darkness and evil and was resurrected in the form of his son, Horus and the story of Jesus crucifixion which was influenced by Satan the god of this evil world and his Resurrection.However,What they fail to realize is that the 2 deaths and 2 Resurrections symbolize different things.


The Sacrifice of the Higher self for the Lower self:
-John 8:23:"And he said to them, You are from beneath; I am from above: you are of this world; I am not of this world".

When Adam the 1st man on earth and the progenitor of the human race chose to eat from the tree of disobedience,He was choosing a terrestrial existence over a divine existence.He was choosing to die to God in order to live to sin.God told Adam that he was going to die if he ate from the forbidden tree.This death is symbolic of the fact that man was going to sacrifice his divine breathe from God which was his life for a temporal breathe of sin.The devil deceived eve into thinking that the terrestrial existence was what was ideal for her and her future seed.That is why mystics see satan as being the liberator of mankind.They claim he saved Adam and Eve by showing them how to be God.They claim he made them make the perfect sacrifice to save themselves from Gods control.

When Adam did eat of the tree, he died to God and became alive to sin and satan(i.e became a new being)That is what the sacrifice and death of the pagan "Christ" (osiris and the other sun gods)represents.It is symbolizes the sacrifice of the higher self for the lower self.The death to God in order to live to sin.The so called"resurrection" of the pagan Christ is symbolized in the new Adam ,The one that was born when He partook of the forbidden fruit of Eden.The one who realized his nakedness.

The sacrifice of the lower self for the higher self:
Since man chose death over life and was separated from God.The only way back to God was to die to the terrestrial life of sin and be "renewed" again by Gods breathe(Romans 12:2).
That is what Jesus death symbolizes the death to the sinful nature that Adam and Eve chose and a restoration of all who accept him to the garden of Eden and Gods control.That is why we Christians preach the cross.That is why we emphasize denial.That is why we seek to lay down our lives to know Jesus.


As we have seen from the above, both of the Christs have to "die" to be raised again.The pagan "antichrist"has to die to God to live to sin and be in control of his life(be a god).The Christian Christ has to die to sin in order to live to God.In both cases death is necessary in order to achieve their goals.

God represents ignorance of the self (knowledge of God) .That is why Adam and Eve were unconscious of the fact that they were naked in the garden of Eden.Because of this,Satan fools mystics to think that God represents darkness(ignorance )and that he is the true light that shows mankind how to be god.(Read Isa 5:20,2 or 11:14).These godless pagans feel God represents Set (the god of darkness).They feel that in order to become the god the serpent promised them they would become,they need to overcome Gods control and be united with the knowledge Satan offered them

-John 8:44:"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it".
-2 cor 4:4:In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Satan is really the god of darkness,evil and lies.He makes us ignorant of our divine nature with his false light.He fools us to accept a temporal beastly existence serving self instead of accepting God's eternal and divine image.He makes us serve him and his demons instead of serving the true God who loves us.In order to see God we must die to our serpent nature (overcome satan)and accept God in our hearts(John 12:24)

The death on the trees:

-Galatians 3:13:"Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree"

In Norse Mythology,It is believed that Odin,The chief god of Norse Mythology died on a tree and many people believe that this justifies the belief that Christs death on a tree was stolen from pagan doctrines and adopted by Christians this is also far from the truth.

The Divine and Forbidden Knowledge were symbolized by two trees in the garden and Adam and Eve chose the forbidden knowledge for themselves and their future seed.In order to return to God,It was going to be necessary for them and their fallen seed to die to the forbidden knowledge and be restored to God.That is what the death of Jesus on the Cross(Tree) symbolizes.It is the death to the forbidden knowledge so we can be restored to God.Notice that the above verse says Christ became a "curse"for us to save us.It means he took on the image of the cursed serpent of sin in order to destroy it and restore humanity to God.Also John 3:14-15 says:"And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life"".

The serpent on the pole that Moses lifted up is symbolic of Christ who even though he knew no sin, took on the serpent nature of sin in order to save us(All who look to him)

On the other hand,In order to know sin,The self and Satan,Adam and eve partook of the forbidden tree and hence died to God(The tree of life)That is what the death of the pagan gods on trees represents:The death to the tree of God in order to live to sin.

[arth47]

Well He did, for transgression entered into the world through eve, for scripture says, adam was not in transgression but eve 1 tim 2:

14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

So thats when adams transgression took place rom 5:

14Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

His Transgression was via eve initially..

I have showed you already, and you have ignored, that Adam in the beginning was the Male and Female in Gods sight..

gen 5:


2Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Now if this is true, and God said to Adam:

gen 2:

17But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Then if adam didnt die the moment he ate via eve, God lied..

Now I dont believe God lied, do you ?

Who told You Adam didn't die the moment He ate from it?Adam died the very minute he ate that fruit.The immediate shift from being conscious of God to being conscious of His nakedness is death.That is why Eph 2:1 says: "And you hath he quickened, who "were dead" in trespasses and sins"St Paul was talking to "living people" when he wrote that and yet he says they were "dead".Also John 5:24:"24Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from "death unto life."Jesus was talking to seemingly "living people"when he made that statement.In our sinful state we are dead because we are without God our life(Deut 30:19-20)Our passage from death(life without God)to life (life submitted to Christ)Happens the minute we submit to Jesus(John 14:6).The trick of the devil since the foundation of this world has always been to fool humanity to think that they are alive without God(Gen 3:4)
It is true that they were called Adam when they were created I never ignored that fact.Infact i addressed it in a previous reply.But Gen 3:6:differentiates them thus:The Husband and His wife meaning they both chose to sin.
We are Christs bride,Christ lives in us( the same way eve was Adams bride and Adam lived in Her) But our wrong choices don't affect Christs choices.Our sin and wrong decisions isn't passed unto Christ.He will always remain Christ because he is always submitted to His fathers will.Irrespective of whether we choose to rebel or not

[beloved57]

Well He did, for transgression entered into the world through eve, for scripture says, adam was not in transgression but eve 1 tim 2:

14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

So thats when adams transgression took place rom 5:

14Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

His Transgression was via eve initially..

I have showed you already, and you have ignored, that Adam in the beginning was the Male and Female in Gods sight..

gen 5:


2Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Now if this is true, and God said to Adam:

gen 2:

17But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Then if adam didnt die the moment he ate via eve, God lied..

Now I dont believe God lied, do you ?

Who told You Adam didn't die the moment He ate from it?Adam died the very minute he ate that fruit.The immediate shift from being conscious of God to being conscious of His nakedness is death.That is why Eph 2:1 says: "And you hath he quickened, who "were dead" in trespasses and sins"St Paul was talking to "living people" when he wrote that and yet he says they were "dead".Also John 5:24:"24Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from "death unto life."Jesus was talking to seemingly "living people"when he made that statement.In our sinful state we are dead because we are without God our life(Deut 30:19-20)Our passage from death(life without God)to life (life submitted to Christ)Happens the minute we submit to Jesus(John 14:6).The trick of the devil since the foundation of this world has always been to fool humanity to think that they are alive without God(Gen 3:4)
It is true that they were called Adam when they were created I never ignored that fact.Infact i addressed it in a previous reply.But Gen 3:6:differentiates them thus:The Husband and His wife meaning they both chose to sin.
We are Christs bride,Christ lives in us( the same way eve was Adams bride and Adam lived in Her) But our wrong choices don't affect Christs choices.Our sin and wrong decisions isn't passed unto Christ.He will always remain Christ because he is always submitted to His fathers will.Irrespective of whether we choose to rebel or not

Your going on a ridiculous rabbit trail now..

[arth47]

Your going on a ridiculous rabbit trail now..

Ridiculous rabbit trail?I would have expected You to address the issues i raised in light of the Bible rather than write off what i wrote as being "ridiculous" without any proof to back Your claim.Whenever i had an objection with Your assertions.I didn't just write them off as being "ridiculous"I backed my objections with proof.So if You feel that i am going on a ridiculous rabbit trail prove it.

[beloved57]

Your going on a ridiculous rabbit trail now..

Ridiculous rabbit trail?I would have expected You to address the issues i raised in light of the Bible rather than write off what i wrote as being "ridiculous" without any proof to back Your claim.Whenever i had an objection with Your assertions.I didn't just write them off as being "ridiculous"I backed my objections with proof.So if You feel that i am going on a ridiculous rabbit trail prove it.

I have given you biblical proof for my claims, do you want me to rehearse them for you ? I can..

[arth47]

I have given you biblical proof for my claims, do you want me to rehearse them for you ? I can..

Well I disputed them and i expected You to address the issues i raised instead of saying what i wrote was ridiculous without backing Your claims

[beloved57]

I have given you biblical proof for my claims, do you want me to rehearse them for you ? I can..

Well I disputed them and i expected You to address the issues i raised instead of saying what i wrote was ridiculous without backing Your claims

You disputed them, but that did not disprove them..you have not proven what i posted to be untrue..

Is not ths True, That God called both Adam and Eve Adam gen 5:

1This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

2Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Now you may dispute that fact, but its still a fact of scripture none the less..

Merely disputing a proposition does not negate its factuality..

[arth47]

You disputed them, but that did not disprove them..you have not proven what i posted to be untrue..

Is not ths True, That God called both Adam and Eve Adam gen 5:

1This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

2Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Now you may dispute that fact, but its still a fact of scripture none the less..

Merely disputing a proposition does not negate its factuality..

Well my disputing them disproved them because You didn't address the issues I raised.When Satan was tempting Jesus in the wilderness He inappropriately used the word of God to tempt Jesus:Matt 4:6:"...for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone".But Jesus Disproved that statement with the word: "Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God".So it is not quoting scripture that matters.It is whether what You are quoting is line with the word of God that matters.And i never disputed the fact that God made them male and female.I disputed and disproved Your point that Adam partook of the forbidden fruit when Eve did.I also disproved Your point that Adam didn't die when he ate the forbidden fruit.And You had no answer to my point.This shows that You know it is true and if You feel it isn't then challenge what i said