The Gospel Preached By Jesus

[WeSee]

When Jesus began His ministry he quoted from the Book of Isaiah: 
Luke 4 
16And He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up; and as was His custom, He entered the synagogue on the Sabbath, and stood up to read. 17And the book of the prophet Isaiah was handed to Him. And He opened the book and found the place where it was written, 
18“THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME, 
BECAUSE HE ANOINTED ME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO THE POOR. 
HE HAS SENT ME TO PROCLAIM RELEASE TO THE CAPTIVES, 
AND RECOVERY OF SIGHT TO THE BLIND, 
TO SET FREE THOSE WHO ARE OPPRESSED, 
19TO PROCLAIM THE FAVORABLE YEAR OF THE LORD.� 
20And He closed the book, gave it back to the attendant and sat down; and the eyes of all in the synagogue were fixed on Him. 21And He began to say to them, “Today this Scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing.�

Jesus clearly stated His purpose. The purpose for which He was anointed. The purpose for which He is the Christ (Christ means "anointed one" for those who are unaware): 
1) To preach His gospel - These are the words He spoke while preaching His gospel during His ministry. 
2) To give sight to the blind - To open the eyes of those blind to the will of God which is contained in His gospel. 
3) To set free the captives - To FREE those who abide in His word from the slavery of committing sin. To FREE those who abide in His gospel (See John 8). 

That's it in a nutshell. During His ministry, Jesus did exactly what He said He was going to do. This is the gospel preached by Jesus. 

There is no "total depravity of man" in the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry. 
There is no "vicarious atonement for the forgiveness of sins" in the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry. 
There is no "if you believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Christ you will receive eternal life and live in the Kingdom" in the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry. 
There is no "imputed righteousness" in the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.

Christianity has a different gospel based on the theology of Paul and others as its foundation.
Shouldn't Christianity have the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry as its foundation?

[WeSee]

It is completely supported by Jesus' teachings. Go back through my posts. I have extensively quoted Jesus' teachings in regards to this.

No you have removed the words Jesus chose ("blood", "life" etc and seen fit to subsitute them for other words "words" , "freedom" etc). It's one thing to present your interpretation of words but another to literally replace them with words that have a different meaning. Perhaps you can explain this without substituting the words he saw fit to choose.

MATTHEW 20:28

Just as the Son of man came, not to be ministered to, but to minister and to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.�

That's how parables (figurative language) work. Do you NOT believe that Jesus spoke in parables? In John 6, the Jews were all up in arms because they could not understand Jesus' references to "eating [His] flesh", "drinking [His] blood", etc. Or would you have been there alongside them saying " “How can this man give us His flesh to eat?�?

[Eloi]

If the role of Jesus was to free his followers from commiting sins, then what is Jesus the high priest of God in heaven for?

[2timothy316]

If the role of Jesus was to free his followers from commiting sins, then what is Jesus the high priest of God in heaven for?

If all we had to do was do as he says to be sin free then his death was pointless.

[WeSee]

All descendants of Adam die. That happens because we were all born after the sentence given to him because of his sin, so we inherited death for his cause; so we all die because we all inherited "sin" from Adam. Paul did not invent anything of this. In the times of Jesus's ministry, all his listeners knew the cause of humanity dying at the time of old age.

When Jesus talked about freedom, he is not talking about freedom of "commiting sins", but about freedom of sins inherited, the ones that causes death to every human, or the ones we can not avoid because the results of that inherited original sinful state.

We do not reach a conclusion on an issue by isolating a passage from the rest of the Bible. Jesus said many things about the reason for his ministry. I could not quote everything here, for I would have to quote the gospels almost entirely.

When Jesus talked about freedom, he is not talking about freedom of "commiting sins", but about freedom of sins inherited, the ones that causes death to every human, or the ones we can not avoid because the results of that inherited original sinful state.

And then there's what Jesus actually said which I quoted earlier:
John 8
"34Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin."
" 31 ...If you abide in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; 32and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.�

An honest student of the Bible will be an exegete, allowing the text to speak for itself. Eisegesis easily lends itself to error, as the would-be interpreter attempts to align the text with his own preconceived notions. Exegesis allows us to agree with the Bible; eisegesis seeks to force the Bible to agree with us.

What you have done here by placing the sentences in a different order and even omitting entire verses to get a result you want is not how the Bible should be used. This method is called eisegesis. If you are interested in learning more about eisegesis and exegesis a guy made a pretty good video explaining the difference in the two and why one is preferred over the other.
https://www.gotquestions.org/exegesis-eisegesis.html

What you have done here by placing the sentences in a different order and even omitting entire verses to get a result you want is not how the Bible should be used.

I only omitted verses and reversed the order to highlight the point Jesus was making. If you think that you can make a solid case that it wasn't the point that Jesus was making, the floor is yours.

Your point according to post 20 your point is:

Those who abide in His word are made FREE from the slavery of committing sin.

Now, let me make sure I'm clear on your point. Are you saying that if a person is following the word of Jesus they are free of sin right now. That there are people in the world right now free from all sin. And a bonus question, do you have no sin in you?

No, you're not clear on my point.

What I am saying is that Jesus is saying that those who ABIDE in His word are His true disciples and are made FREE from the slavery of committing sin:

John 8
"34Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin."
" 31 ...If you abide in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; 32and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.�

Evidently you don't believe Jesus.

[WeSee]

When Jesus began His ministry he quoted from the Book of Isaiah: 
Luke 4 
16And He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up; and as was His custom, He entered the synagogue on the Sabbath, and stood up to read. 17And the book of the prophet Isaiah was handed to Him. And He opened the book and found the place where it was written, 
18“THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON ME, 
BECAUSE HE ANOINTED ME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO THE POOR. 
HE HAS SENT ME TO PROCLAIM RELEASE TO THE CAPTIVES, 
AND RECOVERY OF SIGHT TO THE BLIND, 
TO SET FREE THOSE WHO ARE OPPRESSED, 
19TO PROCLAIM THE FAVORABLE YEAR OF THE LORD.� 
20And He closed the book, gave it back to the attendant and sat down; and the eyes of all in the synagogue were fixed on Him. 21And He began to say to them, “Today this Scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing.�

Jesus clearly stated His purpose. The purpose for which He was anointed. The purpose for which He is the Christ (Christ means "anointed one" for those who are unaware): 
1) To preach His gospel - These are the words He spoke while preaching His gospel during His ministry. 
2) To give sight to the blind - To open the eyes of those blind to the will of God which is contained in His gospel. 
3) To set free the captives - To FREE those who abide in His word from the slavery of committing sin. To FREE those who abide in His gospel (See John 8). 

That's it in a nutshell. During His ministry, Jesus did exactly what He said He was going to do. This is the gospel preached by Jesus. 

There is no "total depravity of man" in the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry. 
There is no "vicarious atonement for the forgiveness of sins" in the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry. 
There is no "if you believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Christ you will receive eternal life and live in the Kingdom" in the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry. 
There is no "imputed righteousness" in the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.

Christianity has a different gospel based on the theology of Paul and others as its foundation.
Shouldn't Christianity have the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry as its foundation?

Evidently a number of posters have lost track of this topic of this thread.

Please read the above and try to stay on topic.

[2timothy316]

All descendants of Adam die. That happens because we were all born after the sentence given to him because of his sin, so we inherited death for his cause; so we all die because we all inherited "sin" from Adam. Paul did not invent anything of this. In the times of Jesus's ministry, all his listeners knew the cause of humanity dying at the time of old age.

When Jesus talked about freedom, he is not talking about freedom of "commiting sins", but about freedom of sins inherited, the ones that causes death to every human, or the ones we can not avoid because the results of that inherited original sinful state.

We do not reach a conclusion on an issue by isolating a passage from the rest of the Bible. Jesus said many things about the reason for his ministry. I could not quote everything here, for I would have to quote the gospels almost entirely.

When Jesus talked about freedom, he is not talking about freedom of "commiting sins", but about freedom of sins inherited, the ones that causes death to every human, or the ones we can not avoid because the results of that inherited original sinful state.

And then there's what Jesus actually said which I quoted earlier:
John 8
"34Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin."
" 31 ...If you abide in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; 32and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.�

An honest student of the Bible will be an exegete, allowing the text to speak for itself. Eisegesis easily lends itself to error, as the would-be interpreter attempts to align the text with his own preconceived notions. Exegesis allows us to agree with the Bible; eisegesis seeks to force the Bible to agree with us.

What you have done here by placing the sentences in a different order and even omitting entire verses to get a result you want is not how the Bible should be used. This method is called eisegesis. If you are interested in learning more about eisegesis and exegesis a guy made a pretty good video explaining the difference in the two and why one is preferred over the other.
https://www.gotquestions.org/exegesis-eisegesis.html

What you have done here by placing the sentences in a different order and even omitting entire verses to get a result you want is not how the Bible should be used.

I only omitted verses and reversed the order to highlight the point Jesus was making. If you think that you can make a solid case that it wasn't the point that Jesus was making, the floor is yours.

Your point according to post 20 your point is:

Those who abide in His word are made FREE from the slavery of committing sin.

Now, let me make sure I'm clear on your point. Are you saying that if a person is following the word of Jesus they are free of sin right now. That there are people in the world right now free from all sin. And a bonus question, do you have no sin in you?

No, you're not clear on my point.

What I am saying is that Jesus is saying that those who ABIDE in His word are His true disciples and are made FREE from the slavery of committing sin:

John 8
"34Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin."
" 31 ...If you abide in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; 32and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.�

Evidently you don't believe Jesus.

Then you're not clear in your point.

Do you know of someone that is sin free or has no sin in them?

Let start there because if don't know someone that is sin free, then apparently you don't believe your point either.

[Eloi]

[Replying to WeSee]

You really mean: forget about every other thing the Bible says and aisolate this two expressions Jesus said, and interpret them as I do, or you are not Christians as Paul was not.

I answer to that: NO. We won't aisolate those two expressions of Jesus and we will not interpret them the way you do. We won't deprecate what 14 books of the Bible say because you think they are not divinely inspired, and we can not consider Paul as a deviated person from Jesus' teachings.

[WeSee]

All descendants of Adam die. That happens because we were all born after the sentence given to him because of his sin, so we inherited death for his cause; so we all die because we all inherited "sin" from Adam. Paul did not invent anything of this. In the times of Jesus's ministry, all his listeners knew the cause of humanity dying at the time of old age.

When Jesus talked about freedom, he is not talking about freedom of "commiting sins", but about freedom of sins inherited, the ones that causes death to every human, or the ones we can not avoid because the results of that inherited original sinful state.

We do not reach a conclusion on an issue by isolating a passage from the rest of the Bible. Jesus said many things about the reason for his ministry. I could not quote everything here, for I would have to quote the gospels almost entirely.

When Jesus talked about freedom, he is not talking about freedom of "commiting sins", but about freedom of sins inherited, the ones that causes death to every human, or the ones we can not avoid because the results of that inherited original sinful state.

And then there's what Jesus actually said which I quoted earlier:
John 8
"34Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin."
" 31 ...If you abide in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; 32and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.�

An honest student of the Bible will be an exegete, allowing the text to speak for itself. Eisegesis easily lends itself to error, as the would-be interpreter attempts to align the text with his own preconceived notions. Exegesis allows us to agree with the Bible; eisegesis seeks to force the Bible to agree with us.

What you have done here by placing the sentences in a different order and even omitting entire verses to get a result you want is not how the Bible should be used. This method is called eisegesis. If you are interested in learning more about eisegesis and exegesis a guy made a pretty good video explaining the difference in the two and why one is preferred over the other.
https://www.gotquestions.org/exegesis-eisegesis.html

What you have done here by placing the sentences in a different order and even omitting entire verses to get a result you want is not how the Bible should be used.

I only omitted verses and reversed the order to highlight the point Jesus was making. If you think that you can make a solid case that it wasn't the point that Jesus was making, the floor is yours.

Your point according to post 20 your point is:

Those who abide in His word are made FREE from the slavery of committing sin.

Now, let me make sure I'm clear on your point. Are you saying that if a person is following the word of Jesus they are free of sin right now. That there are people in the world right now free from all sin. And a bonus question, do you have no sin in you?

No, you're not clear on my point.

What I am saying is that Jesus is saying that those who ABIDE in His word are His true disciples and are made FREE from the slavery of committing sin:

John 8
"34Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin."
" 31 ...If you abide in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; 32and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.�

Evidently you don't believe Jesus.

Then you're not clear in your point.

Do you know of someone that is sin free or has no sin in them?

Let start there because if don't know someone that is sin free, then apparently you don't believe your point either.

Either you believe that Jesus spoke the truth or you don't. I for one believe Him.

[2timothy316]

[Replying to post 58 by WeSee]

So you're not going to answer my question: Do you know of someone that is sin free or has no sin in them? So as to give an example of your own point.

[WeSee]

[Replying to WeSee]

You really mean: forget about every other thing the Bible says and aisolate this two expressions Jesus said, and interpret them as I do, or you are not Christians as Paul was not.

I answer to that: NO. We won't aisolate those two expressions of Jesus and we will not interpret them the way you do. We won't deprecate what 14 books of the Bible say because you think they are not divinely inspired, and we can not consider Paul as a deviated person from Jesus' teachings.

You really mean: forget about every other thing the Bible says and aisolate this two expressions Jesus said, and interpret them as I do, or you are not Christians as Paul was not.

I've written nothing of the kind. You've created a straw man. If you believe that this is not true, then quote where I said that or anything of the kind.