The Holy spirit is God's feminine nature, holy Mother

[dio9]

I have a new suggestion of the Trinity. God is our Father everyone can agree, Jesus is our savior and Son , but the holy spirit is nebulous , not clear as Father and Son. The HS is probably instead of holy spirit , holy Mother. Her characteristics as nurturer and comforter are what mothers do, Father Mother and Son make so much more sense than "holy spirit".
All creation reflects God and all creation is created nurtured and increased within the relationships of Father Mother and child. So the holy spirit is actually Holy Mother.

[William]

[Replying to post 10 by bluethread]

I don't know about the apocrypha. However, I do not see that mythology in the Tanakh either, though there is the cult of Judith, related to a rabbinic view that there was another woman before Havah(Eve).

And let us not forget Lilith.

The Scriptures do not recognize husband and wife as equal, it recognizes them as complimentary. This might be where the analogy breaks down, but currently it doesn't appear to me that seeing Adonai and His people as complimentary causes any real problems. I'd have to see how that plays out.

"Complimentary" invokes the implication that one without the other is not WHOLE.

Culturally speaking, wife and husband become ONE, and essentailly therein is the compliment.

Equality is essential to the health and balance of any relationship. Otherwise what have we here? An image of a GOD who creates a form in which he breaths an aspect of himself into and then falls in love with and even placing aside the sexual aspect of a marriage, this in itself doesn't somehow make it any more or less something of a desperate act wrought from a loneliness which even demons nor angels created could fill the void of - but somehow 'souls' which had gone through the experience of being biological, fit the bill?

BUT, those souls are NEVER to be regarded by the husband as EQUAL? Just what kind of image of a GOD are we dealing with here? Smells like *sniff* - a classic case of paternal spirit. aka Patriarchism which is too [suspiciously] grounded in human culture to be anything other than human invention aka 'made in the image of human cultural preference'.

A 'god' but not really a GOD.

[dio9]

That's why I say the Holy Spirit is the Mother characteristic of God. Think of God within the perimeters of Tao, as preexistent Father and Mother. In the beginning was Father and Mother like Yang and Yin.

[polonius]

The Scriptures do not recognize husband and wife as equal,

RESPONSE: Of course not. The wife must be subject to the husband, don't you know. It must be the will of God!

[dio9]

[Replying to post 13 by polonius.advice]

I beg to differ, in the first creation story They are equal.

[marco]

[Replying to post 13 by polonius.advice]

I beg to differ, in the first creation story They are equal.

Adam was created first. He lived alone. Eve was an afterthought, to give him a "helpmate". Adam was God's primal act of human creation, the template as it were. Eve was made FROM Adam, so it is hard to read equality.

The Bible, and Paul, stress woman's subservience to man. Men, by and large, dominate the Bible; women are usually seductresses or in wise Solomon's case, wives and concubines. Disgrace in the NT is about the WOMAN taken in adultery, not the man. Did Jesus pick 6 men and 6 women?

This attitude of male supremacy, extracted from Scripture, is clearly seen in Islamic countries today. The biggest Christian denomination, founded on Peter, has male-only ministers. The more things change, the more they remain the same.

[marco]

That's why I say the Holy Spirit is the Mother characteristic of God. Think of God within the perimeters of Tao, as preexistent Father and Mother. In the beginning was Father and Mother like Yang and Yin.

There isn't the remotest hint that the Holy Ghost was seen as anything but masculine. After his invention by the Church as one third of the divine triumvirate, he is hailed as HE - Creator Spiritus.

People's need for a mother figure is supplied by Mary, who has been taken from complete anonymity by medieval artists to hold her dead son or cradle her newborn baby God. There may be a politically correct need for a feminine in heaven, but the Holy Spirit isn't it.

[dio9]

[Replying to post 15 by marco]

You must know there are two creation of Man the seven day version where he created them in his image, (sounds equal to me) and the second where Adam is created first and subordinately God creates Eve from his rib.

[dio9]

[Replying to post 16 by marco]

Of course the Church made the Holy Spirit male but in action she is a comforting nurturing life supporting spirit. And where else in heaven would femininity reside but in what we call the Holy Spirit.
The holy Mother's place in heaven is not because it's politically correct but because it is mythologically necessary.

[marco]

[Replying to post 15 by marco]

You must know there are two creation of Man the seven day version where he created them in his image, (sounds equal to me) and the second where Adam is created first and subordinately God creates Eve from his rib.

Well if the "two creations" are self-contradictory we can burn the Bible account. Presumably the account of Adam is just an amplification of the general suggestion that God made mankind.

[marco]

[Replying to post 16 by marco]

Of course the Church made the Holy Spirit male but in action she is a comforting nurturing life supporting spirit. And where else in heaven would femininity reside but in what we call the Holy Spirit.
The holy Mother's place in heaven is not because it's politically correct but because it is mythologically necessary.

I've no idea how male is transformed, by action, into female. If we want to call God dad and the Spirit mum I suppose there's nothing to stop us.


I am struggling with the concept of mythological necessity. I can see why Mary was made mother; she performs a comforting role.