What are people to do?

[Waterfall]

I think it is very strange that people have to wait forever to be resurrected.

Has this idea not a time limit? 1000 year? 10.000 year? 100.000 year? 1.000.000 year?

If there is no time limit then people could wait forever, right?

Would God not demand a time limit (or date) if someone were to say things like that?

When should people abandon this idea?

Lets say Satan tells Jesus that he will destroy him and Jesus respond by saying...very well...can you give me a date? When will you destroy me? Someday? Thats like forever and never? How long time should I wait for this destruction or should I say...when things do not happen then we know it was not true, so can you give me a date - 2040?

How can we tell truth from lie whitout a date?

Maybe it has nothing to do whit time...but something else.

When this happens, then...

But then we would ask about that...what has to happen? Will it happen when everybody is dead (God will raise mankind from the dead?)? Then there could go a very long time, so...

What are your thoughts about this idea?

[ttruscott]

But if Adam and Eve are going to be resurrected then they are not going to die, so was the snake telling the truth?

It is my contention that the serpent was using this truth that they all knew was YHWH's truth to entice Eve into disobedience. She thought he was leading her to prove her faithfulness to YHWH and this truth by disregarding the consequences of disobedience.

How are we to understand this story?

Why not begin whit eating of the tree of life and then eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil?

Could Adam fall whitout Eve or Eve whitout Adam?

My interpretational bias for this story is that Adam and Eve both had chosen already to be sinners by their free will before being breathed, sown, into the garden as per Matt 13:36-39. Their being naked is a symbol for their being sinful as it is also used in Rev 3:17, and their not being ashamed means they did not accept that they are sinful but thought they had chosen wisely and lovingly. This had to be remedied by opening their eyes to their sinfulness before they could repent.

The fact that the word crafty applied to the serpent and the world naked applied to them is the same word supports this bias. So does the fact that commandments are only given to sinners to convict them of sin, not to the righteous nor the innocent to point them to righteous living, Romans 3:20 Therefore no one will be justified in His sight by works of the Law. For the Law merely brings awareness of sin.

Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. Those not already 'out' of Christ have no need to be brought "unto" Christ.

[For_The_Kingdom]

can you give me a date?

No, I can't. What I can do however is assure you of the following:

• #1 God has fixed a time when he will raise people from the dead.

Um, yeah. Tell us something that we don't know. We know that God has a "fixed" time when he will raise people from the dead.

It is fine and dandy for you to acknowledge the fact that you can't give a specific date for this time...but then again, you are involved with an organization that has a history of giving false "dates" (specific years) on when Christ will return (1914, 1975).

It is safe to say that if you don't know Christ will return, then you also don't know when he will raise the dead.

The bottom line is, just save yourself the trouble by stop giving false Biblical prophecies.

[Waterfall]

If truth is not found in the Bible then where is truth found?

Maybe in this book:

http://uk.vandrermodlyset.dk/

I just know the truth is not bound to a book. Unless the book contains the truth.

How do truth and lies get into books?

We ask questions and we receive answers..."In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.".....I think that is a good beginning. But it is not the whole story about God. And that is why I like the questions (and the answer) in this book:

http://uk.vandrermodlyset.dk/m-a00.htm

http://uk.vandrermodlyset.dk/m-a01.htm

http://uk.vandrermodlyset.dk/m-ko00.htm

http://uk.vandrermodlyset.dk/m-ko01.htm

It is a straitforward book whitout contradictions (to my knowledge).

But is it the truth?

That is hard for me to say because of the description of the universe. The rest seems to be in order. I cant put a finger on it. But the description of the universe? That is for science to investigate. But it is an interesting description and if it is true...well...then we have a true encounter whit something never seen before in the history of man.

[2timothy316]

If truth is not found in the Bible then where is truth found?

Maybe in this book:

http://uk.vandrermodlyset.dk/

Maybe? You don't know for sure? What is your method if a book is telling the truth or not?

I just know the truth is not bound to a book. Unless the book contains the truth.

How is it that 'you just know'? Many people claim to 'just know' truth. Is this something that you just tell yourself or is your conclusion built on evidence?

[Waterfall]

If truth is not found in the Bible then where is truth found?

Maybe in this book:

http://uk.vandrermodlyset.dk/

Maybe? You don't know for sure? What is your method if a book is telling the truth or not?

I just know the truth is not bound to a book. Unless the book contains the truth.

How is it that 'you just know'? Many people claim to 'just know' truth. Is this something that you just tell yourself or is your conclusion built on evidence?

How can the truth be bound to a book without the truth in it?

Of course there is truth in the Bible (but the whole truth and nothing but the truth?).

My method?

If someone writes that you yesterday was walking down the street and had a dog whit you...then I would ask you about that day (I am not God, so...) and if you told me it was not true (because you did not have a dog whit you), then one of you is lying (or is wrong or have a bad memory or something like that).

How can I say the decription of the universe is true if it is not true? And if it is not true then what about the rest? Can the rest be separated from the decription of the universe? I do not think so. But then again nobody has patent on the idea of a stolen body, so that idea could stil be true.

[2timothy316]

If truth is not found in the Bible then where is truth found?

Maybe in this book:

http://uk.vandrermodlyset.dk/

Maybe? You don't know for sure? What is your method if a book is telling the truth or not?

I just know the truth is not bound to a book. Unless the book contains the truth.

How is it that 'you just know'? Many people claim to 'just know' truth. Is this something that you just tell yourself or is your conclusion built on evidence?

How can the truth be bound to a book without the truth in it?

How do you know the Bible doesn't have the whole truth?

Of course there is truth in the Bible (but the whole truth and nothing but the truth?).

Do you think that God would allow a lie in a book associated with His name?

My method?

If someone writes that you yesterday was walking down the street and had a dog whit you...then I would ask you about that day (I am not God, so...) and if you told me it was not true (because you did not have a dog whit you), then one of you is lying (or is wrong or have a bad memory or something like that).

Concerning the Bible do you think that God lies or can't remember? Is your 'method' in figuring out what is true 100% proven to work? Isn't your method based on your limitations? Have you considered the limitations of God? Are you saying if your can't know the truth then God can't either?

[brianbbs67]

If truth is not found in the Bible then where is truth found?

Maybe in this book:

http://uk.vandrermodlyset.dk/

Maybe? You don't know for sure? What is your method if a book is telling the truth or not?

I just know the truth is not bound to a book. Unless the book contains the truth.

How is it that 'you just know'? Many people claim to 'just know' truth. Is this something that you just tell yourself or is your conclusion built on evidence?

How can the truth be bound to a book without the truth in it?

Of course there is truth in the Bible (but the whole truth and nothing but the truth?).

My method?

If someone writes that you yesterday was walking down the street and had a dog whit you...then I would ask you about that day (I am not God, so...) and if you told me it was not true (because you did not have a dog whit you), then one of you is lying (or is wrong or have a bad memory or something like that).

How can I say the decription of the universe is true if it is not true? And if it is not true then what about the rest? Can the rest be separated from the decription of the universe? I do not think so. But then again nobody has patent on the idea of a stolen body, so that idea could stil be true.

So, you believe there was a Christ or Jesus, but he was killed and others stole the body? Why is that supposition more true than others?

[Waterfall]

How do you know the Bible doesn't have the whole truth?

Would that not require a book like this?

http://thelightuniversal.org/shorterroad.html

http://thelightuniversal.org/page75.html

http://thelightuniversal.org/page76.html

http://thelightuniversal.org/page77.html

It will take you about 45 minutes to read this book. I think its a relevant book to read if we are going to talk about the whole truth.

Do you think that God would allow a lie in a book associated with His name?

Can we not write a book about God that is not true?

Concerning the Bible do you think that God lies or can't remember? Is your 'method' in figuring out what is true 100% proven to work? Isn't your method based on your limitations? Have you considered the limitations of God? Are you saying if your can't know the truth then God can't either?

Do you think God has to read the Bible before telling you the truth?

[Waterfall]

If truth is not found in the Bible then where is truth found?

Maybe in this book:

http://uk.vandrermodlyset.dk/

Maybe? You don't know for sure? What is your method if a book is telling the truth or not?

I just know the truth is not bound to a book. Unless the book contains the truth.

How is it that 'you just know'? Many people claim to 'just know' truth. Is this something that you just tell yourself or is your conclusion built on evidence?

How can the truth be bound to a book without the truth in it?

Of course there is truth in the Bible (but the whole truth and nothing but the truth?).

My method?

If someone writes that you yesterday was walking down the street and had a dog whit you...then I would ask you about that day (I am not God, so...) and if you told me it was not true (because you did not have a dog whit you), then one of you is lying (or is wrong or have a bad memory or something like that).

How can I say the decription of the universe is true if it is not true? And if it is not true then what about the rest? Can the rest be separated from the decription of the universe? I do not think so. But then again nobody has patent on the idea of a stolen body, so that idea could stil be true.

So, you believe there was a Christ or Jesus, but he was killed and others stole the body? Why is that supposition more true than others?

It is a possibility.

And I see no reason to believe otherwise. If it do happen (the resurrection of the dead) then it will change my mind. So...its up to God. God can change my mind by doing that. Has God already done it? Not according to this book:

http://uk.vandrermodlyset.dk/m-a28.htm

[2timothy316]

How do you know the Bible doesn't have the whole truth?

Would that not require a book like this?

http://thelightuniversal.org/shorterroad.html

http://thelightuniversal.org/page75.html

http://thelightuniversal.org/page76.html

http://thelightuniversal.org/page77.html

It will take you about 45 minutes to read this book. I think its a relevant book to read if we are going to talk about the whole truth.

There is a problem with your book.
It doesn't have reliable signs or prophecy. Thus it gives no evidence as being from God. The Bible actually warns of such teachings and doesn't give a good outcome for those that teach such things. Deuteronomy 13:1-5; 18:20-22;

Do you think that God would allow a lie in a book associated with His name?

Can we not write a book about God that is not true?

You're answering a question with a question. So my question still remains unanswered. The Bible is not from people so your question is moot. 2 Timothy 3:16, 17

Concerning the Bible do you think that God lies or can't remember? Is your 'method' in figuring out what is true 100% proven to work? Isn't your method based on your limitations? Have you considered the limitations of God? Are you saying if your can't know the truth then God can't either?

Do you think God has to read the Bible before telling you the truth?

His Word is truth. John 17:17. God's message of truth is in the Bible thus your question here is moot as well.