What is God’s Judgement?

[DPMartin]

If one disagrees with the Light, then is he still in the Light? And if one disagrees with the Light by who’s judgement is that disagreement? Therefore, wouldn’t that place one in darkness?

[2timothy316]

"For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness? Further, what harmony is there between Christ and Beʹli·al? Or what does a believer share in common with an unbeliever? And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols?" 2 Cor 6:14-16

“You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.�—1 Cor. 10:21

If one disagrees with the Light, then is he still in the Light?

No.

And if one disagrees with the Light by who’s judgement is that disagreement? Therefore, wouldn’t that place one in darkness?

According to the Bible, yes. I have never heard the Bible use the term 'gray area' or that mixing of light and dark is ever good. Allowed at times yes but not favored.

[Elijah John]

If one disagrees with the Light, then is he still in the Light? And if one disagrees with the Light by who’s judgement is that disagreement? Therefore, wouldn’t that place one in darkness?

Who or what do you define as "Light"? "Truth"? I'm guessing, (and correct me if I'm mistaken), that you mean Jesus and/or the Bible?.

And do you equate "Light" with your interpretation of Jesus or the Bible?

Other religions and philosophies also promote "enlightenment". If someone rejects their ways, do those people walk in darkness?

Is darkness mere ignorance, or is it actual evil?

[DPMartin]

"For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness? Further, what harmony is there between Christ and Beʹli·al? Or what does a believer share in common with an unbeliever? And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols?" 2 Cor 6:14-16

“You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.�—1 Cor. 10:21

If one disagrees with the Light, then is he still in the Light?

No.

And if one disagrees with the Light by who’s judgement is that disagreement? Therefore, wouldn’t that place one in darkness?

According to the Bible, yes. I have never heard the Bible use the term 'gray area' or that mixing of light and dark is ever good. Allowed at times yes but not favored.

your correct , which is refreshing but, what is God's Judgement?

[DPMartin]

If one disagrees with the Light, then is he still in the Light? And if one disagrees with the Light by who’s judgement is that disagreement? Therefore, wouldn’t that place one in darkness?

Who or what do you define as "Light"? "Truth"? I'm guessing, (and correct me if I'm mistaken), that you mean Jesus and/or the Bible?.

And do you equate "Light" with your interpretation of Jesus or the Bible?

Other religions and philosophies also promote "enlightenment". If someone rejects their ways, do those people walk in darkness?

Is darkness mere ignorance, or is it actual evil?

read the bible , it's not a hidden secret.

[2timothy316]

"For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness? Further, what harmony is there between Christ and Beʹli·al? Or what does a believer share in common with an unbeliever? And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols?" 2 Cor 6:14-16

“You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.�—1 Cor. 10:21

If one disagrees with the Light, then is he still in the Light?

No.

And if one disagrees with the Light by who’s judgement is that disagreement? Therefore, wouldn’t that place one in darkness?

According to the Bible, yes. I have never heard the Bible use the term 'gray area' or that mixing of light and dark is ever good. Allowed at times yes but not favored.

your correct , which is refreshing but, what is God's Judgement?

God's judgement equals love, protection, order and peace.

"God wants everything to be done peacefully and in order" 1 Cor. 14:33 (Contemporary English Version)
God's justice is based on love because God is love. (1 John 4:8)
God's justice includes discipline to the proper degree. (Jer. 46:28)
God's justice is protection for His loyal ones. (Isaiah 41:10)
God's justice is never unrighteous for the words righteous and just are the same thing. (Deut. 32:4)
God's justice includes wisdom and mercy. (James 3:17)

What God's justice isn't:
It isn't Chaotic
It isn't Cruel
It doesn't turn a blind eye to injustice
Can't be bought
It never punishes righteousness
It never lies
It is not based on anger
It doesn't punish excessively or is negligent in punishment.

[DPMartin]

"For what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have? Or what sharing does light have with darkness? Further, what harmony is there between Christ and Beʹli·al? Or what does a believer share in common with an unbeliever? And what agreement does God’s temple have with idols?" 2 Cor 6:14-16

“You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.�—1 Cor. 10:21

If one disagrees with the Light, then is he still in the Light?

No.

And if one disagrees with the Light by who’s judgement is that disagreement? Therefore, wouldn’t that place one in darkness?

According to the Bible, yes. I have never heard the Bible use the term 'gray area' or that mixing of light and dark is ever good. Allowed at times yes but not favored.

your correct , which is refreshing but, what is God's Judgement?

God's judgement equals love, protection, order and peace.

"God wants everything to be done peacefully and in order" 1 Cor. 14:33 (Contemporary English Version)
God's justice is based on love because God is love. (1 John 4:8)
God's justice includes discipline to the proper degree. (Jer. 46:28)
God's justice is protection for His loyal ones. (Isaiah 41:10)
God's justice is never unrighteous for the words righteous and just are the same thing. (Deut. 32:4)
God's justice includes wisdom and mercy. (James 3:17)

What God's justice isn't:
It isn't Chaotic
It isn't Cruel
It doesn't turn a blind eye to injustice
Can't be bought
It never punishes righteousness
It never lies
It is not based on anger
It doesn't punish excessively or is negligent in punishment.

therefore one could say God's Judgement is Life, correct? and any other judgement results in death.

[2timothy316]

therefore one could say God's Judgement is Life, correct? and any other judgement results in death.

Yes. Even those judged as wicked and sentenced to die by God is to preserve life. Matthew 24:22 even says that if God didn't step in with Armageddon to cut short the 'Great Tribulation' no one would survive. Take a tree for example. If a person has to remove diseased branches to save the tree's life, that is good judgement. Yet for humans we might destroy healthy parts of the limb to save the tree. God on the other hand can destroy only the parts of the limb that are diseased. That's how good He is at judging. Human...not so much. Our judgement is flawed and yes, I guess one could say human judgement eventually leads to death of 'the whole tree'. We humans sometimes judge whole races, sects, or religions to be exterminated. The holocaust comes to mind as an example of bad judgement. Mankind has the power right now to destroy itself many times over. If there was no judgement but man's, eventually a bad judgement call would kill everyone on the planet. Makes me think of the movie Crimson Tide.

[DPMartin]

therefore one could say God's Judgement is Life, correct? and any other judgement results in death.

Yes. Even those judged as wicked and sentenced to die by God is to preserve life. Matthew 24:22 even says that if God didn't step in with Armageddon to cut short the 'Great Tribulation' no one would survive. Take a tree for example. If a person has to remove diseased branches to save the tree's life, that is good judgement. Yet for humans we might destroy healthy parts of the limb to save the tree. God on the other hand can destroy only the parts of the limb that are diseased. That's how good He is at judging. Human...not so much. Our judgement is flawed and yes, I guess one could say human judgement eventually leads to death of 'the whole tree'. We humans sometimes judge whole races, sects, or religions to be exterminated. The holocaust comes to mind as an example of bad judgement. Mankind has the power right now to destroy itself many times over. If there was no judgement but man's, eventually a bad judgement call would kill everyone on the planet. Makes me think of the movie Crimson Tide.

na its as simple as your description of no gray area.

for example Adam and Eve went by their own judgement and the result is death. doesn't matter what the condemned experience while they await execution as a result of their own judgement.


God gave Life and His Judgement is Life, any other isn't life. if a soul come to the Lord Jesus to be saved it doesn't matter their past because God's Judgement is Life.

[2timothy316]

na its as simple as your description of no gray area.

for example Adam and Eve went by their own judgement and the result is death. doesn't matter what the condemned experience while they await execution as a result of their own judgement.


God gave Life and His Judgement is Life, any other isn't life. if a soul come to the Lord Jesus to be saved it doesn't matter their past because God's Judgement is Life.

It seems to me that we are capable of good judgement as long as God's principles are followed. I don't feel the Almighty wants to micro-manage every aspect of our life. The principle of the Bible is, “Keep on making sure of what is acceptable to the Lord.�​—Ep 5:10. The Bible doesn't cover every single fork in the road we will come across. If we are at least trying to 'make sure of what is acceptable' the God can help us even if we make a bad judgement call in trying to meet 'what is acceptable'. As long as we are humble to accept the correction. He might even shield us from the undesired backfire while trying to do 'what is acceptable' to Him. I know I have seen this in my life. I have made some bad judgement calls in what I thought would be acceptable to Him but I learned later I was in error. Yet the error didn't end in what could have been catastrophic. Though I am in agreement, at the end of the day there are no gray areas. When we error there may be an excuse but there is no justification. Wrong is wrong and never is it right. Not an easy concept for many to accept. Folks want to live in self-made 'gray areas'. In my congregation we call it 'sitting on the fence'. But Satan builds fences, that means if a person is on the fence they are sitting on Satan owned property.

As far as A&E are concerned, what they did was certainly bad judgement but what is worse, what they did was outright disobedience. They were not 'making sure of what was acceptable to the Lord'. They didn't care period. Selfishness led to the fall of A&E. Selfishness, it might be said always leads to bad judgement.

Yes the Bible does support if a person does repent then any past sins will be forgotten. The Bible says a person's sins can be 'blotted out'. (Acts 3:19) If a person is a repentant person then they need to be careful of judging themselves as worthless or as deserving death for past sins. Micah 7:19 says that with repentance our sins are cast into the deepest part of the sea. Even today no one can retrieve anything in the deepest parts of the ocean. Why try to recover something that even God doesn't call back? Comforting thought don't you think? Yes, God's judgements do bring life. In Psalm 26:1 the psalmist makes a request, "Judge me, O Jehovah". He knew that it is good for a faithful person to be judged by God. We should want it, as you said it brings blessings and life.