How and when did the Trinity become Christian dogma?

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How and when did the Trinity become Christian dogma?

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Re: Did Jesus ever claim to be God?

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polonius.advice wrote: Tam posted:
I just take Him at His word on who He said He is.
What evidence do you have about what Jesus actually?. Gospels are stories written 40- 65 years after his death by non-witnesses in order to make converts. Have you been taken in too?
Taken in?

Or, rather, taken to the cleaners?

By those making judgments and drawing conclusions 2000 years later.

Such are mere posers as being reliable guides.

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Checkpoint wrote:
By those making judgments and drawing conclusions 2000 years later.
I'm not sure what your are suggesting here. Are you suggesting we should not even attempt to understand the Gospels given they are so old?

Or perhaps you are claiming there is a certain group of people whose attempt to understand the Gospels is invalid because they examine the relevant facts?

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Tcg wrote:
Checkpoint wrote:
By those making judgments and drawing conclusions 2000 years later.
I'm not sure what your are suggesting here. Are you suggesting we should not even attempt to understand the Gospels given they are so old?

Or perhaps you are claiming there is a certain group of people whose attempt to understand the Gospels is invalid because they examine the relevant facts?
What you call "the relevant facts" are not a modern discovery, but have been around for 2000 years.

People chose what they accepted and what they rejected, and who, in those early days, just as they do now.

Nothing has changed.

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Checkpoint wrote:
Tcg wrote:
Checkpoint wrote:
By those making judgments and drawing conclusions 2000 years later.
I'm not sure what your are suggesting here. Are you suggesting we should not even attempt to understand the Gospels given they are so old?

Or perhaps you are claiming there is a certain group of people whose attempt to understand the Gospels is invalid because they examine the relevant facts?
What you call "the relevant facts" are not a modern discovery, but have been around for 2000 years.

People chose what they accepted and what they rejected, and who, in those early days, just as they do now.

Nothing has changed.
I asked two very clear questions. You answered neither of them. Was that intentional?

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Checkpoint wrote:
Tcg wrote:
Checkpoint wrote:
By those making judgments and drawing conclusions 2000 years later.
I'm not sure what your are suggesting here. Are you suggesting we should not even attempt to understand the Gospels given they are so old?

Or perhaps you are claiming there is a certain group of people whose attempt to understand the Gospels is invalid because they examine the relevant facts?
What you call "the relevant facts" are not a modern discovery, but have been around for 2000 years.

People chose what they accepted and what they rejected, and who, in those early days, just as they do now.

Nothing has changed.
RESPONSE: The Gospels were written between 70 and 95 AD. long after the facts by non-witnesses who were attempting to make to make converts. Gospels aren't really aren't credible historical evidence. They contain many contradictions.

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