Trump and Cruz are dangerous for America

[Danmark]

What is it about claiming to be Bible believers that spawns politicians who want to rig the system for the rich and reduce programs for the poor? Isn't this the opposite of what Christ preached?

[Julian of Antioch]

Thank you for your opinions.
I have a couple of questions:
)Are you aware that the "Clinton Years" are known as "The Golden Age of Pornography"? Why was that? How does that sit with the ladies , Christian ladies, and their support of Bill's wife?
While on the subject, I noticed that the State Department began issuing travel advisories during her (Ms Clinton's) administration for LGBT interests.
But I digress:
It seems that any nation that chooses to live certain lifestyles will do so, regardless of what he Word of God says. (See under Sodom and Gomorrah and the other "cities of the Plain" or the Israelite tribe of Benjamin, or the ancient Greeks, or the Arabic/ neo Islamic peoples of today, or "You-Know-Who"..) What can be done about it? Nothing. But don't ask me to like it........
And, just WHO is the candidate of the deviants, I ask?????
Little ole Hillary Rodam Clinton.
(I work with a "married" homosexual who describes HRC as "his" president.)
Otherwise, I will be gratified when the whole mess is over with. I can't say I like ANY of the candidates much....and it seems bad to choose who to vote for by whom you do NOT vote for.

Julian of Antioch

[Danmark]

[Replying to post 11 by Julian of Antioch]

Your LGBT bashing is off topic, but let me be very clear, tho' I am not a member of the LGBT community, I support their rights and believe Jesus would support them, just as he championed the poor. He would work to uplift all despised people, like the adulteress and the tax collector. According to the Bible we are all sinners. The worst 'Christians,' like Trump and Cruz, are exactly like the Pharisee in Luke 18:10-14.

“Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’ But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.�

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[Replying to Danmark]

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[tugofwarstrum]

[Replying to post 1 by Danmark]

Honestly they are both dangerous but trump is the kind of dangerous that america needs. He has the potential to do so much damage that a kind of revolution may be triggered where the government is seized and anarchy might happen but when the dust settles we the Americans can rebuild

[Elijah John]

[Replying to post 1 by Danmark]

Honestly they are both dangerous but trump is the kind of dangerous that america needs. He has the potential to do so much damage that a kind of revolution may be triggered where the government is seized and anarchy might happen but when the dust settles we the Americans can rebuild

That sounds kind of nihilistic, don't you think? Also, to address the OP move directly, I can see how Donald Trump could be considered dangerous, but Ted Cruz?

I guess that depends on one's point of view. Cruz is classic conservative, perhaps a little more so for my tastes...but dangerous?

Unlike Trump, Ted Cruz is well-informned and competent...far more thoughtful.

Between Cruz, Trump and Clinton (or Sanders) I think Cruz is the best choice. John Kasich would be best, but it doesn't seem he has a chance.

[Elijah John]

IN a CNN town meeting format, Ted Cruz recently stated that he believes in the Bill of Rights, and that guarentees religious freedom for Christians, Jews, Muslims and atheists too.

Perhaps he is not so "dangerous" after all.

[2Dbunk]

[Replying to post 16 by Elijah John]

My god, it has come to that -- winnowing through the heap to find one who still believes in the Bill of Rights! Alas, we are ______________!
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Islam is ALL that a religion can be!

[Danmark]

[Replying to post 1 by Danmark]

Honestly they are both dangerous but trump is the kind of dangerous that america needs. He has the potential to do so much damage that a kind of revolution may be triggered where the government is seized and anarchy might happen but when the dust settles we the Americans can rebuild

That sounds kind of nihilistic, don't you think? Also, to address the OP move directly, I can see how Donald Trump could be considered dangerous, but Ted Cruz?


I guess that depends on one's point of view. Cruz is classic conservative, perhaps a little more so for my tastes...but dangerous?

Unlike Trump, Ted Cruz is well-informned and competent...far more thoughtful.

Between Cruz, Trump and Clinton (or Sanders) I think Cruz is the best choice. John Kasich would be best, but it doesn't seem he has a chance.

Why would the best choice for the leader of our government be someone whose greatest accomplishment has been shutting down that government?

"People want a candidate who has a backbone and who's not afraid to make a decision -- whether it was the right one or the wrong one, he's all in," said Brian Logie, 35.
The shutdown endeared Cruz to much of the professional right, from the rabble-rousing Senate Conservatives Fund, whose leaders are organizing on his behalf, to the Club for Growth, some of whose donors have been his biggest backers. And several of the House Republicans who also sought a shutdown have endorsed his presidential campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/16/politics/ ... obamacare/

Apparently he is not liked by his colleagues on both sides of the aisle. Some, me included, get an oily, evil vibe from him. Then there is the legitimate issue regarding whether this natural born Canadian is even qualified to be President.

"No person except a natural born citizen... shall be eligible to the office of President...."
US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

[Elijah John]

[Replying to post 1 by Danmark]

Honestly they are both dangerous but trump is the kind of dangerous that america needs. He has the potential to do so much damage that a kind of revolution may be triggered where the government is seized and anarchy might happen but when the dust settles we the Americans can rebuild

That sounds kind of nihilistic, don't you think? Also, to address the OP move directly, I can see how Donald Trump could be considered dangerous, but Ted Cruz?


I guess that depends on one's point of view. Cruz is classic conservative, perhaps a little more so for my tastes...but dangerous?

Unlike Trump, Ted Cruz is well-informned and competent...far more thoughtful.

Between Cruz, Trump and Clinton (or Sanders) I think Cruz is the best choice. John Kasich would be best, but it doesn't seem he has a chance.

Why would the best choice for the leader of our government be someone whose greatest accomplishment has been shutting down that government?

"People want a candidate who has a backbone and who's not afraid to make a decision -- whether it was the right one or the wrong one, he's all in," said Brian Logie, 35.
The shutdown endeared Cruz to much of the professional right, from the rabble-rousing Senate Conservatives Fund, whose leaders are organizing on his behalf, to the Club for Growth, some of whose donors have been his biggest backers. And several of the House Republicans who also sought a shutdown have endorsed his presidential campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/16/politics/ ... obamacare/

Apparently he is not liked by his colleagues on both sides of the aisle. Some, me included, get an oily, evil vibe from him. Then there is the legitimate issue regarding whether this natural born Canadian is even qualified to be President.

"No person except a natural born citizen... shall be eligible to the office of President...."
US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

Cruz was not my fist choice, Marco Rubio was. And I voted for him. But out of the remaining candidates, I think Ted Cruz is best.

Granted, not the most likable, but I like most of his positions. And I cannot vote for Trump, or Hillary.

And unlike Donald Trump, Ted Cruz knows the issues. Plus, it is my understanding that Ted Cruz was a champion debater at Harvard. And this being a debating site and all...jk.

May not be relevant to the presidency, but it does suggest a certain level of intelligence for Ted Cruz...

So if Cruz doesn't win the Republican nomination, I am likely to write someone in...on principle.


And note the irony...between Clinton, Trump and Cruz, the most truthful candidate may well be the one who Trump calls "Lying Ted".

[Danmark]

[Replying to post 19 by Elijah John]

From a Christian perspective, what is wrong with Bernie Sanders?
Putting economics aside, just looking at the moral issues, at carrying for one's neighbor, what is wrong with Sanders' suggested program?