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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/09/world ... .html?_r=1

How should Palestinian leaders respond to terrorist attacks against their people?

Invade the offending nation?
Launch attacks against the offending nation?
Kill civilians?
Other?
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DanieltheDragon wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/09/world ... .html?_r=1

How should Palestinian leaders respond to terrorist attacks against their people?

Invade the offending nation?
Launch attacks against the offending nation?
Kill civilians?
Other?
Push the Israeli government for finding the perps and punishing them.

If you notice it said '
The Israeli authorities have since cracked down on a shadowy group of Jewish radicals who are suspected of involvement in violence against Palestinians, but so far no one has been charged in connection with the arson attack on the Dawabsheh home.'


If the 'eye for an eye' model is taken, everyone would be eyeless and toothless.
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I agree the other option was listed for a purpose ;) . So often the call to usurp another countries sovereignty occurs through tragedy. Where revenge is more important than diplomacy. Both The US and Israel seemingly have sought to polarize and invade rather the find diplomatic solutions
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DanieltheDragon wrote: [Replying to post 2 by Goat]

I agree the other option was listed for a purpose ;) . So often the call to usurp another countries sovereignty occurs through tragedy. Where revenge is more important than diplomacy. Both The US and Israel seemingly have sought to polarize and invade rather the find diplomatic solutions
I do not particularly like Netenyahu. However, there is a lot of propaganda on the side of Hamas too. Did you know that at least one set of 'missile strikes' during the last time Hamas fired rockets into Israel that they blamed Israel on was their own rocket that misfired?
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DanieltheDragon wrote: [Replying to post 2 by Goat]

I agree the other option was listed for a purpose ;) . So often the call to usurp another countries sovereignty occurs through tragedy. Where revenge is more important than diplomacy. Both The US and Israel seemingly have sought to polarize and invade rather the find diplomatic solutions
I do not particularly like Netenyahu. However, there is a lot of propaganda on the side of Hamas too. Did you know that at least one set of 'missile strikes' during the last time Hamas fired rockets into Israel that they blamed Israel on was their own rocket that misfired?
Hadn't heard that one but it's not all that surprising. Frankly, if this happened in gaza instead of the West Bank another invasion might be at hand. Hamas would have been firing rockets after the teen was shot during the protests and Israel would have yet another excuse to go medieval. It might look weak but Hamas should look at how this is playing out as 3 lives lost is better than thousands.
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DanieltheDragon wrote: [Replying to post 2 by Goat]

I agree the other option was listed for a purpose ;) . So often the call to usurp another countries sovereignty occurs through tragedy. Where revenge is more important than diplomacy. Both The US and Israel seemingly have sought to polarize and invade rather the find diplomatic solutions
I do not particularly like Netenyahu. However, there is a lot of propaganda on the side of Hamas too. Did you know that at least one set of 'missile strikes' during the last time Hamas fired rockets into Israel that they blamed Israel on was their own rocket that misfired?
Hadn't heard that one but it's not all that surprising. Frankly, if this happened in gaza instead of the West Bank another invasion might be at hand. Hamas would have been firing rockets after the teen was shot during the protests and Israel would have yet another excuse to go medieval. It might look weak but Hamas should look at how this is playing out as 3 lives lost is better than thousands.

I personally hope that the people who did this get found and properly punished.
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DanieltheDragon wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/09/world ... .html?_r=1

How should Palestinian leaders respond to terrorist attacks against their people?

Invade the offending nation?
Launch attacks against the offending nation?
Kill civilians?
Other?
The Palestinians don't really have access to the usual methods a country or people would resort to under these circumstances, given that they're essentially under occupation by a nation who happens to be backed by the world's pre-eminent superpower (us). Imagine what would happen if the Palestinians responded a manner similar to how the US responded to 9/11- by invading and launching attacks against the people who may have harbored those responsible. Or, more specifically, imagine the Israeli response to such measures. It would possibly mean the extinction of the Palestinian people as a whole!

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DanieltheDragon wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/09/world ... .html?_r=1

How should Palestinian leaders respond to terrorist attacks against their people?

Invade the offending nation?
Launch attacks against the offending nation?
Kill civilians?
Other?

It's hard to imagine knowing what to do in that situation, besides a violent response. I don't think it matters if you are a Palastinian/Jordainian parent or an Israeli Parent, or any parent for that matter. These kinds of Human conflicts have been going on forever. Using words like terrorists to demonise one side over another just comes of like propaganda...

Maybe a Gandhi approach would help? Not sure I would go that way but it seems violence will not help the Palestinian cause...
enviousintheeverafter wrote:Imagine the Israeli response to such measures. It would possibly mean the extinction of the Palestinian people as a whole!
Imagine the slaughter if Israel could not or did not defend themselves. It is the Arabs that would massacre every last Jew. They would drive them into the ocean, to the last Jew. All I have seen is Israel show restraint in an impossible situation. Israel has the power to annihilate the Arabs and Palestinians but don't. Give that power to the Arabs and see how much restrain they show?

Envious, Palestinians are Jordanians, Palestine was a part of Jordan. It would be a huge task to bring them to extinction. It's the other way around. The Arabs crave for the day when they can drive the Jews into extinction...The Jew's have no other choice but to defend themselves with brute force and no tolerance. In saying that, I do feel for the Palestinians on the West Bank that have had their land destroyed and stolen by rogue Jews...

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[Replying to post 8 by Stonez]

Lol, wow.. Talk about missing the point.

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Now that's a well thought out response, lol...So, What's your point then because your imaginary scenario plays out all the time without Israel wiping the Palestinians out.

How many times have we see seen the Palestinians and Arabs respond with nations and armies, invading, only to be pushed back and then to be shown restraint by the defender, Israel.

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