Oooh, Cathar, "tautology?" Good for you. Learning the sophisticated way of insulting people personally? Now you're cooking.
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You may be a former Christian, but you certainly know how to define it. Start with the truth and deviate from there. But the truth never moved.
I suppose you should be asked what is that unchanged truth and how would you ever know it?
It seems that would be true for Christians and non-Christians.
But it does not change his analysis does it? It is still valid.
Test all things and hold firmly on to the stuff that's truth. Family, for example, is man-woman-children. It is one of thos immutable truths. But, wierdly, not for some people. A pregnant human woman always gives birth to a human child, or loses a human child in a mishap. But somehow some kinds of human people can claim that a woman doesn't carry a human within in her but some kind of mass.
I don't think faith and non-facts have anything to do with each other. Jewish people do not celebrate Passover out of faith. It really happened that story of the Israelites and the Egyptians.
What would make you think you would be any closer to the truth then anyone else?
Facts. Faith is something you purchase. You, "buy" into it.
Why would you think your denomination or your religion is any better off then all the rest?
Our faith. And of course, what it is founded on. The incessant attack on the "facts" of the "Christian faith" is the obsession of the anti-Christian. It is satanic in origin. "Is that what 'God' really said?"
If there is not a God wouldn’t that have been true from the beginning?
Only an insane person truly believes there is no God. At least that is my opinion and one of the Biblical authors I agree with. I have much experience to guide my assertion here, and remember I am a believer in God.
Makes me wonder what your point could ever mean beside some kind of tautology.
"Tautology." Gives me goosebumps. I'm so proud of you.
If there is one truth and everything and everyone changes including ideas, language, culture, religion, belief and writings (evolution?) how good can any of them have been in the first place? Are you getting closer or have you got it together? Looking at any claim today it looks like the sciences have come along better and faster in just the last 100 years.
I haven't seen science do much that has taken the facts out of God. I do not fear science at all. Only liberals using science for abominations. Do me a favor, hold your breath for fifteen minutes without breathing for any reason at all.
No cheating.
I'll do the same.
It will not be faith that kills us. It will be a natural scientifically proven process happening within our bodies, from denying outside forces. It will be our willingness to grasp ignorance and apply it to our bodies. I choose to study and grasp the truth when it is proven as such. Faith has absolutely nothing to do with Christ Jesus and those that follow God. Either Christ was crucified in reality of time and space, and resurrected in reality, in time and space and in the exact same way, that in reality the Sinai experience and all else happened to the Israelites happened in our time and space. There is no such thing as faith, if faith means believing in lies.
That, I'm sure, is why so much effort is put into disproving the "real" claims "in" the Bible.
In reality, there is good and evil. Liars are the bad guys 100% of the time. Of course the liars say that good and evil is interpretable. Of course.
The miracle of Jesus is immense, but the the one most "ignored" is the one about letting everyone grow old peacefully and die, without violenc eending their life. And in fact, doing good to the evil people even though they are evil people. A miracle is something that defies facts, not faith. I have faith that Jesus IS real.
But I bet you wouldn’t put your faith (absolute trust with out reason, evidence and questions) in science.
Biblical faith is better presented as "trust." Abraham trusted God. Remember that. It was by asking questions to God. Amazingly factual mathematic questions. "Would you destroy the city (of Sodom) if there were twenty good people there?"
It is lucky for earth that there are still left some good people. I do not doubt that the futility of atheist/scientists (humanism), to build a better world (as they envision it) would include genocide again if they had people convinced that it would work again.
Abortion is a horrific glimpse into the evil mind of madness that can look at truth and deny it. How many human beings have really been killed while being denied their humanity? Who knows? Those records are not kept. I do not have to doubt why. But claiming hundreds of millions of humans have been slaughtered on the alter of scientific ignorance called convenience and pro-choice, points faith at the non-Christian with 100% probability.
Just watch one pregnancy from conception to birth and you see that the blind faith of abortion supporters, is promoted by those that claim that condition exists in the Christian, when it has no similarity in meaning. Faith comes by reason, and reasoning facts.
What is fair for the Christian to hold dear, is that not evereyone will see "facts" the same. Abortion is the fine example to show where to place your trust and leave faith to the anti-Christian. Shaiking off the dust from your feet "so to speak." I trust that Jesus gave us that idiom to use when we get frustrated that people will choose lies to practice their ignorance wilfully. Usually humans just kill, enslave and subjugate those that do not follow the great leader. Jesus, inexplicably, told we Christians to let the anti-Christians go about their way unharmed. And to allow them to kill us when it is called for.
That is so mimicked these days by people that claim Christians are stupid as to be laughable. The feel good generation has grown up and had a kid or two. Now they practice a faith Cathar. A house built on sand so to speak. (Who was this Jesus guy with all of those cool sayings?)
I guess you should feel lucky (favored) that something else didn’t get to you first considering the lack of a clear guide and so many options.
God is God when I was a wild and crazy atheistic individual and when I came to the truth of God, as a Christian. I have all of the evidence to support the truth of God, even coming from my days denying the truth and living like a godless liberal justifying my actions by asking silly questions about there being proof for God. Science showed me the way during the enlightening process. Many beneficial people mimick Christ-like morality, because of absolutes and not the insanity of universalism.
So what is a true Christian and how do you know with out the bible, which is always going to be interpreted to prove some position or another?
It seems clear that the use of the term "interpretation" should be a warning flag that streaks for the sky the moment it is presented. The New Testament can be used as it is to define non- and anti Christians. It also seems quite clear that the Gospels and letters of the New Testament were written only for the reason of liars saying they were believers when they were not.
I guess you can just write it off as the Holy Spirit but you would not be the first or the last and you could still no get everyone to join in. It almost starts to seem arbitrary.
I will not discuss that aspect of God with a non-Christian, and only an orthodox one at that. With all due respect. I mean that.
It seems like if it faith (absolute trust with out reason, evidence and questions) really doesn’t require truth just belief in the truth even if it is wrong your still going to believe because that is true by your definition.
Where is "blind faith" taught in the New Testament or the Old Testament? It's OK to rant on about the news presented in the Bible, but clearly, it is meant as real happenings. Interesting the anti-Christian decries the deaths of Israel's enemies and supports abortion with tax dollars, and cares nothing about genocides waged throughout the world. It is sickening reality. So, it is reasonable to think about reality and the Bible as one and the same.
I just don't understand how anti-Christians come up with that faith thing? As can be seen in the struggle going on between Christians and evil people, Christians are more than happy to use science and study, but it is just
denied on faith by their enemies, that the Christian is wrong. Evolution cannot possibly "ever" mean something from nothing. Why get all huffy and puffy about the silliness caused by Darwin? Science is no foe of Christians.
How can you say a Mormon or some cult is wrong when their faith requires the same as yours?
Mormons present evidnce in the Biblical realm that can be tested. It fails. If they want to cling to it, so be it. But it is still their facts presented against the evidence that disproves the Mormon assertion.
Did an Israelite ever write that God lives near a star called Kolob? Joseph Smith did.
Did the Israelites think God is having celestial sex with multiple wives and producing earth people? Joseph Smith did. Mormons cannot shake Smith from their religion. And that is just the tip of the Mormon theological iceberg.
"Tautology." I'm so impressed Cathar. Now apply that word's meaning to liberals, atheists, humanists, secularists, skeptics . . . ah, you know the rest . . . "Civil rights!" The redundant war cry for the hedonist and lascivious miscraent to force their faith be paid for by everyone. Even when scientific facts show the harm done by licentiousness, still the repetition ad infinitum, until ad nauseum is a reality. The cry of the anti-Christian faithful is as real as a fatherless child with siblings from many other women, or a person dying from an STD. It is the anti-Christian that walks by blind faith. But not really. Everyone knows the truth "in their hearts."
