A church spokeswoman lie

[The Ex-Mormon]

I found this at the Salt Lake Tribune :


Just Dew It: BYU students pushing for caffeinated colas

Soda » Mormon church statement prompts campaign to dump campus ban.

By Peggy Fletcher Stack

| The Salt Lake Tribune
First Published Sep 11 2012 05:06 pm • Last Updated Sep 12 2012 07:12 am

Caffeine-craving Brigham Young University students are pushing the LDS Church-owned school to change its stance on cola drinks.
The move was triggered by Aug. 30 statements from BYU spokeswoman Carri Jenkins in which she said that the school doesn’t serve or sell caffeinated drinks because there has not "been a demand for it."
The ban on caffeinated sodas is "not a university or church decision," Jenkins told The Salt Lake Tribune then, "but made by dining services, based on what our customers want." Source: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54875 ... d.html.csp

This is " a lie! Coke was and is forbidden in Europe at events of the church. We shall drink mineral water water or sweet lemonade; Fruit juices or Fruit teas. It is a rule at least for Europe which has "legal force". Whoever drinks Coke does not get a temple recommend and no patriarchal blessing. And of course he cannot make any career in the church either.

[The Ex-Mormon]

No. I am talking about voting, as in a city, county and state election.

In the "early Church of Christ" which so never was there; women and men had the same rights. Those in the municipality which were needed and seemed suitable for certain tasks voted by women and men.
And I think the LDS claims of himself; being the direct successor of this "early Church"? Therefore women also might have the priesthood in the LDS; because they had it in the "early Church". They then might become even apostles and prophets in the LDS.
Since the LDS does not permit this to women, shows me that this "church" can never be in the tradition of the early Christians

In 1888 Emily S. Richards, wife of the Mormon church attorney, Franklin S. Richards, approached church officials with a proposal to form a Utah suffrage association affiliated with the National Woman Suffrage Association. With church approval, the territorial association was formed on 10 January 1889 with leading roles given to women who were not involved in polygamous marriages. Margaret N. Caine, wife of Delegate to Congress John T. Caine, was the president and Emily Richards was appointed a state organizer. Acting quickly, Mrs. Richards organized local units throughout the territory.
Please note; the church was BEHIND, and SUPPORTED, Women's suffrage movements in Utah.

Who lived in Utah at that time and who wrote the history of the state and/or the LDS then? Right! THE MORMONS !!! The candidate has 100 points!
And the members of this cult have a selective perception like almost all members of a group. They are aware only what seems favorable for them. I have a little rummaged out of curiosity on the Internet once. I found this at it here:

Brigham Young

Although he was governor of Utah Territory for less than a decade, Brigham Young (pictured) remained the real power in religious and civic affairs for thirty years.
It would be hard to name a more influential figure in the development of Utah than Brigham Young.
As leader of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Young led the emigration of his people to the region. Eventually eighty-thousand Mormons would make their way to the Utah territory under his guidance.
But Young was also a political office holder. He was the first territorial governor, serving for eight years. . .and did double duty as the territory's resident Indian agent. Despite shaping thirty years of daily life in Utah, Young only stood for election one time. In 1862, as part of a bid for statehood, Young ran as a candidate for governor. Ten thousand votes were cast. . .and Brigham Young received all ten thousand. The bid for statehood failed. . .and it would prove to be the last stand of absolute one-party politics in Utah.

I have the first suspicion that Young and the LDS were only for two reasons for the vote for women. And please correct me, Nick, if I am mistaken:
The first reason was the personal power of BY and the church. The more people would vote for the candidates of the LDS; the greater and sure the power of the LDS.
The second reason was narrowly connected with the polygamy in my opinion. Marriages were matters of state legislation (of state, not the federal government). And, if the state of Utah would permit the polygamy, no bundle, no army, no judge and no law could do something against this.
And women were there so stupid enough at that time to think that the polygamy was given by God (and did not originate from the horny of their founder Smith); would they vote against their own interests as obedient members. Because most women were sad in such "marriages"!

[dianaiad]

No. I am talking about voting, as in a city, county and state election.

In the "early Church of Christ" which so never was there; women and men had the same rights. Those in the municipality which were needed and seemed suitable for certain tasks voted by women and men.
And I think the LDS claims of himself; being the direct successor of this "early Church"? Therefore women also might have the priesthood in the LDS; because they had it in the "early Church". They then might become even apostles and prophets in the LDS.
Since the LDS does not permit this to women, shows me that this "church" can never be in the tradition of the early Christians

In 1888 Emily S. Richards, wife of the Mormon church attorney, Franklin S. Richards, approached church officials with a proposal to form a Utah suffrage association affiliated with the National Woman Suffrage Association. With church approval, the territorial association was formed on 10 January 1889 with leading roles given to women who were not involved in polygamous marriages. Margaret N. Caine, wife of Delegate to Congress John T. Caine, was the president and Emily Richards was appointed a state organizer. Acting quickly, Mrs. Richards organized local units throughout the territory.
Please note; the church was BEHIND, and SUPPORTED, Women's suffrage movements in Utah.

Who lived in Utah at that time and who wrote the history of the state and/or the LDS then? Right! THE MORMONS !!! The candidate has 100 points!
And the members of this cult have a selective perception like almost all members of a group. They are aware only what seems favorable for them. I have a little rummaged out of curiosity on the Internet once. I found this at it here:

Brigham Young

Although he was governor of Utah Territory for less than a decade, Brigham Young (pictured) remained the real power in religious and civic affairs for thirty years.
It would be hard to name a more influential figure in the development of Utah than Brigham Young.
As leader of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Young led the emigration of his people to the region. Eventually eighty-thousand Mormons would make their way to the Utah territory under his guidance.
But Young was also a political office holder. He was the first territorial governor, serving for eight years. . .and did double duty as the territory's resident Indian agent. Despite shaping thirty years of daily life in Utah, Young only stood for election one time. In 1862, as part of a bid for statehood, Young ran as a candidate for governor. Ten thousand votes were cast. . .and Brigham Young received all ten thousand. The bid for statehood failed. . .and it would prove to be the last stand of absolute one-party politics in Utah.

I have the first suspicion that Young and the LDS were only for two reasons for the vote for women. And please correct me, Nick, if I am mistaken:
The first reason was the personal power of BY and the church. The more people would vote for the candidates of the LDS; the greater and sure the power of the LDS.
The second reason was narrowly connected with the polygamy in my opinion. Marriages were matters of state legislation (of state, not the federal government). And, if the state of Utah would permit the polygamy, no bundle, no army, no judge and no law could do something against this.
And women were there so stupid enough at that time to think that the polygamy was given by God (and did not originate from the horny of their founder Smith); would they vote against their own interests as obedient members. Because most women were sad in such "marriages"!

Y'know, I'm the only one who has responded to your ranting, inaccuracies and, not to put too fine a point on it, idiotic claims.

...................all of which are in the same league as when you claimed that the US government had put the maker of that anti-Mohammad movie trailer in jail for 21 months because of a parole violation. that is, you realize, absolutely false. The man has not been charged. He is not in jail.

He probably WILL be....even though the nature of his parole violation would ordinarily not cause him jail time.

Your information regarding the history of Utah, which is written in government documents, NOT revised history, is utterly and completely false. Look up the dates; don't make them up, LOOK them up. YOU go look up the FEDERAL LAW that took the vote away from Utah women, and the State constitutional convention that GAVE IT BACK. YOU look up who was the governor of the territory of Utah when that territory officially gave the vote to women...even though they had been voting in local civil elections in their own towns for over 35 years already.

However, I don't have to deal with it any more, and I think I will now stop doing so. You may continue to post, to what I suspect will be a deafening silence, once I stop reacting to your hysterical ranting.

[The Ex-Mormon]

Diana, I have read only material to what could be found in German or French on the Internet or in books. And the vote for women therefore has primarily to do something with the polygamy in Utah. In the book, written by Dee Brown ("gunsmoke was their perfume" in German) over the women of the wild west; stand approximately analogously; that the government therefore refused the state Utah (earlier territory Deseret) because the polygamy was practiced. Young and the leadership team of the LDS then wanted the vote for women. But not to the welfare of women, special, to the welfare of LDS!