Was Jesus God In The Flesh?

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Was Jesus God In The Flesh?

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If Jesus was God in the flesh, how could He be tempted by sin?

For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are (Heb 4:15)

If Jesus was God in the flesh, why would He learn to obey?

Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered. (Heb 5:8)

If Jesus was God in the flesh, how could He have died?

He, in the days of His flesh, offered up both prayers and supplications with loud crying and tears to the One able to save Him from death (Heb 5:7)

If Jesus was God in the flesh, how could He ascend to His God?

"Go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.'" (Joh 20:17)

If Jesus was God in the flesh, why was His Father the only true God?

"This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." (Joh 17:3)
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Re: Was Jesus God In The Flesh?

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Mr E wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2026 5:26 pm [Replying to OneJack in post #4]
Jesus restrained His power [being God] while He was in the flesh [of the Son of God]
by acting normally as an ordinary man.
Jesus was just acting?

You seem to be saying that Jesus was just pretending to be a man like us. Is that what you mean? Is God a fakir?
Normally, if we were given roles in a stage play, we would have to act exactly as the script tells us to perform the acts needed for our roles. I never said Jesus was pretending to be a man like us; I'm saying that Jesus, being the Almighty God, dwelt in the flesh of the Son of God during His incarnation among His apostles and disciples. Jesus lived and supped with them as an ordinary man, though at times He used His power to perform miracles.

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HimWithin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2026 3:10 pm
OneJack wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2026 7:37 pm
HimWithin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2026 4:52 am If Jesus was God in the flesh, how could He be tempted by sin?
Jesus restrained His power [being God] while He was in the flesh [of the Son of God] by acting normally as an ordinary man.

Did Jesus restrain His power and was acting powerless?
Not always, but almost; if not, the Son of God, per se, would not die if Jesus, being the Life and Spirit of and in the Son, did not act as an ordinary, a powerless man in the eyes of the Jews and the Romans during His incarnation.
If Jesus was God in the flesh, why would He learn to obey?
Jesus did not persist in His Godhood while He was in the flesh [of the Son of God]; He lived and supped with His disciples as a normal man.

Did Jesus pause His Godhood?
If pause means restrain, then yes, Jesus [almost] restrained His Godhood for 33 years, more or less, and lived as an ordinary man among His apostles and disciples.
If Jesus was God in the flesh, how could He have died?
Saying Jesus died is a wrong connotation; the Lord Jesus did not [and will never] die because He is the Almighty God, who detached Himself from the bodily flesh of the Son of God, per se; hence, the man who was called the Son of God died in that instant.

Who was the Son of God who died?
The Son of God, per se, who died on the cross was absolutely the son/man who was born of Mary - the physical vessel of the Almighty God [whose name is Jesus or Immanuel] in His incarnation during the apostles' time.
If Jesus was God in the flesh, how could He ascend to His God?
Jesus, while He was in the flesh [of the Son], portrayed the Son, per se, before the eyes of the people to have God over him (the Son) and the one to ascend to the Father in due time.

Was the Son pretending to have a God over him?
Bear in mind that the Son of God, per se, was just the physical vessel of the Almighty God, whose name is Jesus or Immanuel, in His incarnation; hence, the Spirit and Life of and in the Son of God was the Almighty God. The Almighty God, through the Son, made it a point that the man who was born of Mary - the man who was called the Son of God - has God over him always, a declaration without any pretension.
Unknown to the disciples, the Father was the Spirit and Life that was in the flesh [of the Son] and the one who talked to them all the way, but through the Son.

Was Jesus and the Father in the flesh of the Son.
Jesus, being the name of God, is the Father, as the Father is the Almighty God; hence, Jesus is the Almighty God. The Father, whose name is Jesus or Immanuel, was in the flesh of the Son of God, per se, during His (Father's) incarnation among His disciples and apostles.
If Jesus was God in the flesh, why was His Father the only true God?
Jesus is the name of God given [by God] to the Son of God, whom you mistook to be Jesus, per se, which is an absolute error in knowing who Jesus is in His true nature.
Did Jesus give the Son of God His name?
Jesus, the Almighty God, gave His name Jesus or Immanuel of Mighty God or Eternal Father to the Son of God, per se, during His (God's) incarnation.

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Re: Was Jesus God In The Flesh?

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HimWithin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2026 3:26 pm ...
Could Jesus be God by virtue of Him being one in union with the fullness of Deity?....
I think disciples of Jesus ("Christians") should also be in union with God, because:

I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them through your name which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are.
John 17:11
that they may all be one; even as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be one in us; that the world may be-lieve that you sent me.
John 17:21

And I don't think that means people are then God by virtue, for example because:

This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
John 17:3
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1 Tim. 2:5
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Berserk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2026 4:23 pm How can a mere human rise bodily from the dead, go through walls to appear to His disciples and then allow them to touch His body?
He was not raised a mere man, but He died a mere man.
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HimWithin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2026 5:35 am
Berserk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2026 4:23 pm How can a mere human rise bodily from the dead, go through walls to appear to His disciples and then allow them to touch His body?
He was not raised a mere man, but He died a mere man.
What then was the Son of God, per se, raised to if not a mere man?

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