Here's the theory of macro evolution: A parent species produces an offspring species, that cannot reproduce the parent species, but only their own new species.
Question: How can one species be the parent of another species, that it cannot reproduce with? And vica versa, how can a species be the offspring of another species, that it cannot reproduce with? Can a parent produce an offspring, that cannot possibly be a produced offspring of that parent, else they could reproduce the same species...
Macro evolutionary impossibility: A parent species produces an offspring species, that is not the offspring of that parent, nor is the parent of that offspring, because there is no reproduction between them. By definition they cannot reproduce one from the other...And it must be within a single generation, else when and where is that last generation of the old, and the beginning generation of the new?
A 'macro;-difference within a single generation is impossible: One species, that can only produce after it's own kind, cannot produce another species, that cannot produce after it's own kind.
And so, macro-evolution cannot be evolutionary, which is by definition only incremental over many generations, not produced in a single generation.
Macro evolution is an ideology built upon a theoretical impossibility, that ideologically rejects the only possibility for macro production of a whole new species, and has no parent to reproduce with: Macro creation.
Macro evolution is a theoretical and practical impossibility
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Re: Macro evolution is a theoretical and practical impossibility
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I'm wondering what source you used for your definition.
Your definition is too narrow because speciation usually occurs through populations diverging over many generations, not one parent species producing a reproductively isolated offspring species in a single generation.
Since this post is about science, lets use the best scientific definition for our terms.Here's the theory of macro evolution: A parent species produces an offspring species, that cannot reproduce the parent species, but only their own new species.
I'm wondering what source you used for your definition.
Your definition is too narrow because speciation usually occurs through populations diverging over many generations, not one parent species producing a reproductively isolated offspring species in a single generation.
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Re: Macro evolution is a theoretical and practical impossibility
Post #82[Replying to RBD in post #1]
Your question assumes speciation happens in one generation. Scientific evidence shows populations diverge over generations until reproductive isolation develops.Question: How can one species be the parent of another species, that it cannot reproduce with? And vica versa, how can a species be the offspring of another species, that it cannot reproduce with? Can a parent produce an offspring, that cannot possibly be a produced offspring of that parent, else they could reproduce the same species...
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Re: Macro evolution is a theoretical and practical impossibility
Post #83[Replying to RBD in post #1]
You assume speciation requires one generation to belong exclusively to either the old or new species, ignoring gradual population changes.Macro evolutionary impossibility: A parent species produces an offspring species, that is not the offspring of that parent, nor is the parent of that offspring, because there is no reproduction between them. By definition they cannot reproduce one from the other...And it must be within a single generation, else when and where is that last generation of the old, and the beginning generation of the new?
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Re: Macro evolution is a theoretical and practical impossibility
Post #84[Replying to RBD in post #1]
You incorrectly assume macroevolution requires a new species to emerge completely within one generation, rather than through gradual population change.
A 'macro;-difference within a single generation is impossible: One species, that can only produce after it's own kind, cannot produce another species, that cannot produce after it's own kind.
You incorrectly assume macroevolution requires a new species to emerge completely within one generation, rather than through gradual population change.
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Re: Macro evolution is a theoretical and practical impossibility
Post #85[Replying to RBD in post #1]
Let me know if my version accurately represents yours:
P1. Macroevolution requires new species to emerge within a single generation.
P2. Evolution occurs incrementally across many generations, not within one generation.
C. Therefore, macroevolution cannot occur through evolution, so macro-creation is the only alternative.
Just to make sure I understand your argument and it's conclusion correctly, I will make my own version.And so, macro-evolution cannot be evolutionary, which is by definition only incremental over many generations, not produced in a single generation.
Macro evolution is an ideology built upon a theoretical impossibility, that ideologically rejects the only possibility for macro production of a whole new species, and has no parent to reproduce with: Macro creation.
Let me know if my version accurately represents yours:
P1. Macroevolution requires new species to emerge within a single generation.
P2. Evolution occurs incrementally across many generations, not within one generation.
C. Therefore, macroevolution cannot occur through evolution, so macro-creation is the only alternative.
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