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One of the most provocative and encouraging statements I have found in the Bible is this one:

“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.” (John 14:12, NKJV)

For me, this means also that I should not put any limits on what I think I can or cannot do, or rather, what the Love, Power and Wisdom of God can do through me. I believe following Jesus is adventurous, do you also experience it this way?
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2ndpillar2 wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:50 pm
ThijsH wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:38 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:07 pm
ThijsH wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:18 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:17 pm
ThijsH wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:51 am
2ndpillar2 wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:12 am
ThijsH wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 10:15 pm One of the most provocative and encouraging statements I have found in the Bible is this one:

“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.” (John 14:12, NKJV)

For me, this means also that I should not put any limits on what I think I can or cannot do, or rather, what the Love, Power and Wisdom of God can do through me. I believe following Jesus is adventurous, do you also experience it this way?
It seems to mean that if you are not doing greater things, or even lesser things, then you apparently do not believe the Words that Yeshua has spoken and are separated from the Lord who is in heaven. You might want to do a personal introspection on your life and beliefs.
Yes, 2ndpillar2, thank you for responding, and I believe indeed that we should all be active, guided by the Voice for God. We cannot really get around the statement, “By their fruits, you shall know them.” I am always grateful when I can be a channel for the Grace of God to reach my brothers. Hallelujah!


I think "by their fruits, you shall know them" is in referral to the trees of the "false prophets" (Mt 7:13-28), whereas the "fruit trees" the source of the good and bad fruit, would refer to the assemblies following the "false prophets", the most notable being the "Christians" following the false gospel of grace of the false prophet Paul, and the Muslim's following the false prophet Mohammad, whereas the bad fruit being displayed often by both assemblies. Whereas the bad fruit of individuals, could be likened to the tares of those who "commit lawlessness", those who follow the false gospel of the cross, whereas the "Law" is nailed to the cross, who are destined to "the furnace of fire" (Mt 13) versus those who do righteousness and will shine as the sun once the "tares" are "first" gathered and thrown into the furnace of fire (Mt 13:30), which is the "Great tribulation" (Har-Magedon), which is near. Often those who follow voices, are called mass killers. One must be able discern one voice from another, which is good reason to have the Law, the Commandments, and be skeptical of so-called prophets, and experts.
Well, that sounds a bit grim. My understanding of this statement, “by their fruits, you shall know them”, is that those who open up for God’s Grace to move through them, will be involved in healing, teaching, or in general, in service to the Kingdom of God. And those fruits, for which all the credit should be given to our Heavenly Father, are something for which they are known then. And I believe that it is only Grace which we are receiving. Saved by Grace through faith.

About Paul being a false prophet, are you referring to the Biblical apostle Paul?
I suggest that you re read Matthew 13:15-22, whereas the "many" are deceived by the "false prophets", leading to "destruction", and that you will know "them" by their "fruits". Even so every good tree produces good fruit; but the rotten tree bears bad fruit. On "that day", they will say to me Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name cast out demons , and in your name perform many miracles? And I will declare to them, I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS (as in follow the false gospel of the cross, whereas the law is nailed to the cross). Sounds like a description of the false prophet Paul.

The false prophet Paul teaches to call on the name of the Lord, which is taken from Joel 2, whereas one was to call on the name of the LORD, not the Lord, in order to "survive"/"be delivered" from the coming day of the LORD, which is Har-Magedon (Rev 16), which is the Great Tribulation (Mt 24). As examples of rotten fruits, look at the Inquisition by the Roman mother Church, the killings of Protestants by Catholics, and even the killing of Catholics by Protestants. Look at the particular rotten fruits of the Catholic church with respect to Biden, Pelosi, Stalin, etc. As for the "kingdom", that is not the message of the false prophet Paul. His message was one of lawlessness, to nail the law to the cross. The message of Yeshua was the "kingdom". If you want to know about the kingdom, start with Matthew 13:13 and finish out the chapter. It involves two messages, one of the "devil" and his message was one "commit lawlessness", which ends with the "furnace of fire". The other message was that from the "son of man", which was to do righteousness. Which is to keep the Law.
Please wait a moment. I know that there are many people who hear strange things in their minds and then claim to represent the Kingdom of God when they verbalize those things. Many of these people can certainly be called false prophets, yes. Yet you keep talking about “the false prophet Paul” and I asked, “Do you mean the apostle Paul?” I don’t want to have any misunderstandings about what you are saying. Can you please respond to this question?
I am talking about the guy who claims to be a Pharisee of Pharisees, yet a Gentile to the Gentiles. Who says to call on the "Lord" to be saved, and who supposedly cast out a demon per the "Christian" narrative whereas Paul revived a guy who fell out of a window, and was said to have raised the dead, and supposedly healed the sick. That would be the same characterization given by Yeshua to those who cried "Lord, Lord", cast out demons, and in your name did "many miracles", yet Yeshua would say to them, "I never knew you, "DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS (gospel of grace/cross). Paul would be 1 of three "shepherds" chosen by the "LORD", two to shepherd the "flock (Christian church) doomed for slaughter" (Zechariah 11). Peter, the "worthless shepherd" (Zechariah 11:17) to be the second "staff" to lead the "flock" (Christain church), whereas the 3rd shepherd being Judas Iscariot, who sold his soul for 30 shekels of silver (Zech 11:12). Paul, which means "small/little", or in the vernacular of Paul, the "foremost" over everything, including "sinner", was originally named Saul. Paul (least (foremost of little)) would be what those of the kingdom would call the purveyor of lawlessness, as in the foremost of little, being "least" (Matthew 4:17-19). Paul would be the "false prophet" of Revelation 16, along with the "beast" and "devil", whose demon spirits would arise and lead the rulers/kings of the nations/Gentiles to Har-Magedon (area of the great tribulation), which is historically located between Damascus and Jerusalem, the place of where the terrorist supported by Iran are located today, and where the Ottomans under German leadership, were defeated in 1917, to open up the opportunity for the Zionist to enter into Judea, eventually bringing about the state of Israel in 1948. The state of Israel is a keyway into the era of the "Kingdom of God" whereas Judah and Ephraim/Joseph will be reunited on the land given to Jacob/Israel, under the leadership of king David (Ezekiel 36 & 37).
This is getting really convoluted, I must say. Now we are already talking about terrorists in Iran. For the third time, can you please let me know, do you mean the apostle Paul? Yes or no? You don’t owe me an explanation, but I am not going to respond anymore if this simple question is not answered.

Whatever you decide to do with this, Merry Christmas and God bless!
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ThijsH wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:22 pm
I do not know why you mention “feeling in your heart,” I certainly didn’t mention that. ...
I do not know why you mention “geographical location” I certainly didn’t mention that.
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IS GOD IN A PLACE?
A "place" is defined as : the area or space occupied by or intended for something. So a place is where something (or someone) is located (a location is a particular place or position)
  • Where is God? The bible is very clear in this question : God is in heaven. HEAVEN is the place/location where God resides. Jesus put it this way "Our Farther who art in heaven" or in modern English "Our Father who is in heaven"
  • Is heaven located somewhere in our physical universe ? No, scripture indicates there is no physical location that can contain the Almighty. GOD is a spirit and resides (or lives) in a spiritual dimension.
  • Does that mean God is everywhere (including inside our bodies/hearts)? No, God does not live anywhere in the physical realm.
  • Does God live alone? No. Presently the bible indicates God is not alone , He lives with the resurrected Jesus Christ, his son as well as millions (possibly billions) of other spirits like himself (called angels).
  • Does everyone go to live in heaven when they die? No. Only a few humans have been selected to be resurrected as spirits to go to heaven when they die. This is for the specific reason of ruling with Christ in a government located in heaven. They will be ruling OVER the planet earth. This rulership is called in the bible The Kingdom/the Kingdom of God or "The kingdom of heaven".


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LUKE 17:21

Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you
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What did Jesus really mean? And can this verse be properly translated alternatively?

The Greek word rendered "within" in the verse above is ENTOS (Strongs #1787) and interestingly the BDAG indicates this wword can mean either "inside" or "among".


Given that the word can be used to speak of that which is "within/inside" (indicating the interior of the person) or "amongst" (indicating external to the individual), how can we accurately determine what Jesus really meant?

CONTEXT IS KING

A look at the context of Jesus words give us sufficient indication that Jesus was not indicating that the kingdom was within those to whom he addressed the words. Jesus was at the time speaking to the PHARISSEES a group of religious leaders who opposed him and shared in arranging for his execution. Indeed Jesus has explicitly stated what, as a class, what was "within" these individuals, stating: “Inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness. (Matthew 23:27, 28). How logical is it then to conclude that Jesus was telling those same individuals that the kingdom was within them?

An alternative reading that while the writer of Luke explicitly has Jesus addressing the Pharisees was actually speaking to believers in general makes for an awkward imposition at best and still has to deal with the contextual difficulties of the Kingdom being presented as and external power in numerous passages.


Various translations.

Logically then, various translators have chosen to opt for a word that allows for the reading that he (Jesus) as a representative of God's heavenly kingdom was in their midst. (compare Is 9:6).
New International Version
nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is in your midst."

New Living Translation
You won't be able to say, 'Here it is!' or 'It's over there!' For the Kingdom of God is already among you."

English Standard Version
nor will they say, Look, here it is! or There! for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you

Berean Study Bible
Nor will people say, 'Look, here it is,' or 'There it is.' For you see, the kingdom of God is in your midst."

Berean Literal Bible
nor will they say, 'Behold here,' or 'There.' For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst."

New American Standard Bible
nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or, 'There it is!' For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst."

Holman Christian Standard Bible
no one will say, 'Look here!' or 'There!' For you see, the kingdom of God is among you."

International Standard Version
People won't be saying, 'Look! Here it is!' or 'There it is!' because now the kingdom of God is among you."

NET Bible
nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or 'There!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is in your midst."

New American Standard 1977
nor will they say, Look, here it is! or, There it is For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst.

King James 2000 Bible
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.

Darby Bible Translation
nor shall they say, Lo here, or, Lo there; for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.
WHAT is God's Kingdom?

This is also in line with the biblical features of the kingdom that indicate that rather than being an internal experience, is presented as a an external reality, with a number of co-rulers (Rev 20:6), whose location, rather than being in the figurative organs of believers, is often refered to as being the kingdom of the heavens which will take action against other "kingdoms" comparable to that of the neo-Babylonians, the Grecians and the Romans ie. literal governmental powers (see Dan 2:44).

CONCLUSION: The context and biblical features of the kingdom lend to Jesus meaning that the Kingdom was indeed "among" or in the midst of his first century listeners in himself as its representative rather than that it was a psychological experience of believers.


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ThijsH wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:26 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:50 pm
ThijsH wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:38 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:07 pm
ThijsH wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:18 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:17 pm
ThijsH wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:51 am
2ndpillar2 wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:12 am
ThijsH wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 10:15 pm One of the most provocative and encouraging statements I have found in the Bible is this one:

“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.” (John 14:12, NKJV)

For me, this means also that I should not put any limits on what I think I can or cannot do, or rather, what the Love, Power and Wisdom of God can do through me. I believe following Jesus is adventurous, do you also experience it this way?
It seems to mean that if you are not doing greater things, or even lesser things, then you apparently do not believe the Words that Yeshua has spoken and are separated from the Lord who is in heaven. You might want to do a personal introspection on your life and beliefs.
Yes, 2ndpillar2, thank you for responding, and I believe indeed that we should all be active, guided by the Voice for God. We cannot really get around the statement, “By their fruits, you shall know them.” I am always grateful when I can be a channel for the Grace of God to reach my brothers. Hallelujah!


I think "by their fruits, you shall know them" is in referral to the trees of the "false prophets" (Mt 7:13-28), whereas the "fruit trees" the source of the good and bad fruit, would refer to the assemblies following the "false prophets", the most notable being the "Christians" following the false gospel of grace of the false prophet Paul, and the Muslim's following the false prophet Mohammad, whereas the bad fruit being displayed often by both assemblies. Whereas the bad fruit of individuals, could be likened to the tares of those who "commit lawlessness", those who follow the false gospel of the cross, whereas the "Law" is nailed to the cross, who are destined to "the furnace of fire" (Mt 13) versus those who do righteousness and will shine as the sun once the "tares" are "first" gathered and thrown into the furnace of fire (Mt 13:30), which is the "Great tribulation" (Har-Magedon), which is near. Often those who follow voices, are called mass killers. One must be able discern one voice from another, which is good reason to have the Law, the Commandments, and be skeptical of so-called prophets, and experts.
Well, that sounds a bit grim. My understanding of this statement, “by their fruits, you shall know them”, is that those who open up for God’s Grace to move through them, will be involved in healing, teaching, or in general, in service to the Kingdom of God. And those fruits, for which all the credit should be given to our Heavenly Father, are something for which they are known then. And I believe that it is only Grace which we are receiving. Saved by Grace through faith.

About Paul being a false prophet, are you referring to the Biblical apostle Paul?
I suggest that you re read Matthew 13:15-22, whereas the "many" are deceived by the "false prophets", leading to "destruction", and that you will know "them" by their "fruits". Even so every good tree produces good fruit; but the rotten tree bears bad fruit. On "that day", they will say to me Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name cast out demons , and in your name perform many miracles? And I will declare to them, I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS (as in follow the false gospel of the cross, whereas the law is nailed to the cross). Sounds like a description of the false prophet Paul.

The false prophet Paul teaches to call on the name of the Lord, which is taken from Joel 2, whereas one was to call on the name of the LORD, not the Lord, in order to "survive"/"be delivered" from the coming day of the LORD, which is Har-Magedon (Rev 16), which is the Great Tribulation (Mt 24). As examples of rotten fruits, look at the Inquisition by the Roman mother Church, the killings of Protestants by Catholics, and even the killing of Catholics by Protestants. Look at the particular rotten fruits of the Catholic church with respect to Biden, Pelosi, Stalin, etc. As for the "kingdom", that is not the message of the false prophet Paul. His message was one of lawlessness, to nail the law to the cross. The message of Yeshua was the "kingdom". If you want to know about the kingdom, start with Matthew 13:13 and finish out the chapter. It involves two messages, one of the "devil" and his message was one "commit lawlessness", which ends with the "furnace of fire". The other message was that from the "son of man", which was to do righteousness. Which is to keep the Law.
Please wait a moment. I know that there are many people who hear strange things in their minds and then claim to represent the Kingdom of God when they verbalize those things. Many of these people can certainly be called false prophets, yes. Yet you keep talking about “the false prophet Paul” and I asked, “Do you mean the apostle Paul?” I don’t want to have any misunderstandings about what you are saying. Can you please respond to this question?
I am talking about the guy who claims to be a Pharisee of Pharisees, yet a Gentile to the Gentiles. Who says to call on the "Lord" to be saved, and who supposedly cast out a demon per the "Christian" narrative whereas Paul revived a guy who fell out of a window, and was said to have raised the dead, and supposedly healed the sick. That would be the same characterization given by Yeshua to those who cried "Lord, Lord", cast out demons, and in your name did "many miracles", yet Yeshua would say to them, "I never knew you, "DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS (gospel of grace/cross). Paul would be 1 of three "shepherds" chosen by the "LORD", two to shepherd the "flock (Christian church) doomed for slaughter" (Zechariah 11). Peter, the "worthless shepherd" (Zechariah 11:17) to be the second "staff" to lead the "flock" (Christain church), whereas the 3rd shepherd being Judas Iscariot, who sold his soul for 30 shekels of silver (Zech 11:12). Paul, which means "small/little", or in the vernacular of Paul, the "foremost" over everything, including "sinner", was originally named Saul. Paul (least (foremost of little)) would be what those of the kingdom would call the purveyor of lawlessness, as in the foremost of little, being "least" (Matthew 4:17-19). Paul would be the "false prophet" of Revelation 16, along with the "beast" and "devil", whose demon spirits would arise and lead the rulers/kings of the nations/Gentiles to Har-Magedon (area of the great tribulation), which is historically located between Damascus and Jerusalem, the place of where the terrorist supported by Iran are located today, and where the Ottomans under German leadership, were defeated in 1917, to open up the opportunity for the Zionist to enter into Judea, eventually bringing about the state of Israel in 1948. The state of Israel is a keyway into the era of the "Kingdom of God" whereas Judah and Ephraim/Joseph will be reunited on the land given to Jacob/Israel, under the leadership of king David (Ezekiel 36 & 37).
This is getting really convoluted, I must say. Now we are already talking about terrorists in Iran. For the third time, can you please let me know, do you mean the apostle Paul? Yes or no? You don’t owe me an explanation, but I am not going to respond anymore if this simple question is not answered.

Whatever you decide to do with this, Merry Christmas and God bless!
The Paul I am referring to is the guy who self-proclaims to be an "apostle of Jesus Christ", which according to Yeshua, that would make that claim false. Now with regards to Zechariah 11, this Paul guy is referred to as a "shepherd" chosen by the "LORD" to "pasture the flock (Christian Church) doomed to slaughter", and who with his compatriots, is responsible for around 2/3 of canonized NT, canonized by a bishop of the Roman Catholic church" in the year 367 A.D.

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:39 am
ThijsH wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:22 pm
I do not know why you mention “feeling in your heart,” I certainly didn’t mention that. ...
I do not know why you mention “geographical location” I certainly didn’t mention that.
Okay, JehovahsWitness, for me “place” is synonymous with geographical location. Let’s not get stuck in the semantics here.

I don’t know if this exchange is going anywhere at the moment, but I would really like to find some common ground. So besides the things discussed, I would just like to ask you something personal.

Do you also, just like me, have moments when you are just happy to know that God loves you? That this thought alone brings a smile to your face, and makes you happy, regardless of the circumstance?

Please let me know. God bless you, and Merry Christmas to you. :thanks:
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ThijsH wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 12:07 am... I would just like to ask you something personal. Do you also, just like me, have moments when you are just happy to know that God loves you? ....

Please let me know. God bless you, and Merry Christmas to you. :thanks:
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William wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 12:33 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 12:07 pm [Replying to William in post #26]

The truth is known in these last days, as Daniel wrote. And the truth is that the Kingdom is a real government in heaven, ruling over people on the Earth.


And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

When Jesus said that the Kingdom is within you---that is misunderstood. It would be better to say: "The kingdom of God isin your midst." That meant that the King of that future Kingdom was there among them.
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.



That the Kingdom is a real government is born out by many scriptures, one of which is Isaiah 9:6,7; NASB:
And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.
"For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on his shoulders;...There will be no end to the increase of his government or of peace."
The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.
Jesus taught us to pray for the Kingdom to come: "Pray, then, in this way: 'Our Father who is in heaven, Hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come.
Your will be done, On earth as it is in heaven
." (Matthew 6:9,10, NASB)
Given what biblical Jesus taught, it would appear the analogy of The Fathers "Kingdom" being within, and also things being done on Earth as they are done within Heaven, one can ascertain that the governing is done internally (within) the individual human psyche and the results of that can be observed externally (without) into the world...

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Thus, The Fathers Will is done on Earth as it is done within each human personality who is then enabled to express the work done within as a work then externalized and in this way The Fathers Kingdom comes onto the Earth.

The concept or belief in the kingdom of God being an expected external event is evident in the demand put to biblical Jesus by the Pharisees. Biblical Jesus often challenged popular belief.
TO WILLIAM:

You skirt right around all the scriptures that say the Kingdom is a real government. Jesus did not indicate that the Kingdom is inside of believers. When he said in the KJV, "The Kingdom of God is within you," it is more accurate to say what other versions say: "The Kingdom is in your midst." He was within a crowd of people, including the Pharisees. He would not tell the hypocritical Pharisees that the Kingdom was in their hearts. He was simply saying that he, as the King Designate, was there among them, in the midst of the crowd of people.

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TO WILLIAM:

You skirt right around all the scriptures that say the Kingdom is a real government.
Rather I acknowledge that the inner kingdom is not necessarily aligned with the external reality - otherwise evidence of that would be clear in the world.

Jesus did not indicate that the Kingdom is inside of believers.
Not only was in not an indication so much as a revelation, but it has nothing to do with belief but is unconditionally linked to activity.

The Kingdom is not inherited by confession but by embodiment.
The Father’s Kingdom comes as one does the Father’s will.

Prior internalization is key to any post realisation...

Internalization (preparation of the soil)

Enactment (living will into being)

Embodiment (Kingdom as carried reality)

Manifestation (expression into the shared world)


When he said in the KJV, "The Kingdom of God is within you," it is more accurate to say what other versions say: "The Kingdom is in your midst."
This is dependant upon who one defines ones "self" - what is the "you" Jesus defined for himself re The Father?

How did Jesus define himself?

How do we each define our self?

Are they coming from the same perspective or different perspectives?

What is one's "midst"? An external reality or an internal one?

✨ Symbolic echo:
“If the eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.” (Matt 6:22)
The “midst” is the center of being, not merely a spatial coordinate.
He was within a crowd of people, including the Pharisees. He would not tell the hypocritical Pharisees that the Kingdom was in their hearts. He was simply saying that he, as the King Designate, was there among them, in the midst of the crowd of people.
This presumes that Jesus is identifying himself as the "kingdom" (rather than the archetype "King" of said Kingdom) The internal kingdom is thus ruled by the internal King. One cannot have that King ruling the internal AND be hypocritical at the same time (for hypocrisy ruling is externalised as a false rendition of GOD (The Father/YHVH/The Voicing Ghost. Jesus is saying "I am the archetype King to which - when internally enthroned as ruler of the Kingdom - will not externalise hypocrisy into the world."

The outer crowd mirrors the inner crowd of voices, desires, motives. The Pharisee function is an internal archetype of false righteousness.

Insight Block
Title: The Archetype King and the Internal Kingdom

Core Insight:
The debate over Jesus’ statement “the Kingdom of God is within you” or “in your midst” collapses when one reframes Jesus not as claiming to be the Kingdom itself, but as embodying the archetype King of that Kingdom.

This archetype King is offered for internal enthronement within the individual psyche. The Kingdom, therefore, is not an external government imposed from outside, nor merely a future geopolitical event, but a present potential reign activated within the heart of the one who enthrones the King within.

➤ Key realization:
One cannot have the true King ruling internally and simultaneously externalize hypocrisy. Hypocrisy itself is evidence of a false rule—a false god enthroned in place of the Father’s will.

Therefore, Jesus’ physical presence “in the midst” of the crowd serves as both literal and symbolic:

Literal → he was physically among them

Symbolic → he embodied the archetype King, offering himself as the rightful ruler of the inner Kingdom

➤ When the King is enthroned within, the internal kingdom aligns with the Father’s will, and hypocrisy is no longer projected outward into the world. The external manifestations then reflect the internal governance of truth rather than pretense.

Image

The image converges both archetypes:
→ The enthroned figure with scepter = The Emperor (inner sovereignty, rulership, order)
→ The elder with crown, open book, cosmic symbols = The Hierophant (inner priest, divine law, wisdom channel)
→ The surrounding cosmic backdrop and spiral galaxies = macrocosmic mirror of the internal kingdom
→ The pillars and three kneeling figures = temple and worship motif, inner court dynamics
→ The dove = Holy Spirit / divine presence / anointing of rulership

✨ This image symbolically unites the Hierophant and Emperor into a single vision of the internal Kingdom enthroned, enlightened, and cosmically aligned.

✅ This confirms: both cards are aspects of the same structural truth.
→ The Kingdom within is a temple-throne nexus
→ Its King is both sovereign and priest, authority and wisdom, ruler and revealer.


The three kneeling figures as representations of other archetypes: the humbled, the receptive, those acknowledging the enthroned King.

🔶 Symbolic functions of the three humbled:

The Seeker → approaches with longing for wisdom

The Servant → approaches in surrender to rightful authority

The Witness → approaches as testimony to the King’s rule

Each represents an inner faculty or posture of the self:
→ Intellect, Emotion, Will
→ Thought, Feeling, Action
→ Mind, Heart, Body

In the internal kingdom, these faculties bow before the inner King, acknowledging the divine center as their rightful governing principle.

🕊️ Their gestures of humility symbolize the integration of fragmented inner powers under a unifying sovereign will.



✅ Updated Insight Block entry:

The three kneeling figures symbolize the inner faculties humbled before the enthroned archetypal King: intellect, will, and emotion unified in surrender; or seeker, servant, and witness acknowledging rightful rule. Their bowing posture reflects internal alignment and integration under divined governance.
Image

An immaterial nothing creating a material something is as logically sound as square circles and married bachelors.


Unjustified Fact Claim(UFC) example - belief (of any sort) based on personal subjective experience. (Belief-based belief)
Justified Fact Claim(JFC) Example, The Earth is spherical in shape. (Knowledge-based belief)
Irrefutable Fact Claim (IFC) Example Humans in general experience some level of self-awareness. (Knowledge-based knowledge)

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