We're all Dead and this is Hell

[Purple Knight]

Question for debate: Does the thread's claim that we're all dead and this is Hell (or possibly purgatory) reconcile Jesus's statement that "this generation shall not pass away" before the apocalypse comes better or worse than other attempts to reconcile Jesus's claim with reality?

I rarely see this possibility discussed.

[myth-one.com]

Question for debate: Does the thread's claim that we're all dead and this is Hell (or possibly purgatory) reconcile Jesus's statement that "this generation shall not pass away" before the apocalypse comes better or worse than other attempts to reconcile Jesus's claim with reality?

I rarely see this possibility discussed.

How about giving us a verse to work off of?

The physically dead are without feelings, nor can they think or have a change of heart. The spiritually dead, if in hell, are without options; their end is to suffer their punishment.

Ecclesiastes 9:5
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

Once your "spiritually dead" suffer their punishment of death, their suffering is over as the dead know not any thing.

The wages of sin is death. And once one suffers their second death, the wages for their sins have been paid.

[Purple Knight]

Question for debate: Does the thread's claim that we're all dead and this is Hell (or possibly purgatory) reconcile Jesus's statement that "this generation shall not pass away" before the apocalypse comes better or worse than other attempts to reconcile Jesus's claim with reality?

I rarely see this possibility discussed.

The dead know not any thing:

For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing... (Ecclesiastes 9:5)

So if we are all dead, then none of us would know that we are dead nor where we are.

But since we can still discuss "We're all Dead and this is Hell", then we are not all dead and the statement is false.

This actually halfway supports my proposition. If we are dead, and think we're alive, or can't know whether we're alive or not, we don't know where we are or that we're dead.

[Dimmesdale]

It is inconceivable to me how anything living, that is conscious, can ever die (that is, to cease existing altogether). For, to that living being, death would appear as sleep. And so, there would still be some reference to self. An eternal, abiding self-reference. It is inconceivable how even God could, skillfully as it were, void this persistent self-presence....

Hence, we are eternal.

"For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain."

[marke]

Americans may really believe they are in hell if Iran detonates a nuclear weapon that Obama and Biden paid for.