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"Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."

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What are we to make of this?




Do they not realize that they're making Jesus out to be a liar?

"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."
(Matthew 24:35)

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oldbadger wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:22 am
marke wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:20 am
Marke: What speciation changes did Darwin witness firsthand that proved to him that speciation changes are an observable phenomenon? Fruit flies evolving into fruit flies?
Amongst many other species he took great interest in the evolution of finches on individual islands around Galapagos.

You should read about it.

Marke: So Darwin saw finches 'evolving' into other finches and concluded that humans evolved from jungle animals in Africa?

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[Replying to marke in post #331]
So Darwin saw finches 'evolving' into other finches and concluded that humans evolved from jungle animals in Africa?
"AI Overview
The hominin fossil record, spanning over six million years, provides crucial insights into human evolution, revealing the emergence of bipedalism, tool use, and larger brains, with key fossils like Ardipithecus, Australopithecus, and Homo species showcasing this journey.
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From a recent post in another thread:


(Keep in mind----the guy giving this presentation is a Christian.)
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marke wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:43 pm
Marke: So Darwin saw finches 'evolving' into other finches and concluded that humans evolved from jungle animals in Africa?
Ha ha! I didn't think you would have learned about all this! 🤣

No. Darwin observed that on islands cut off from each other the flora and fauna had evolved separately from each other, and this was particularly noticeable in the finches that lived on each island. They had evolved in order to take best advantage of the conditions on their islands.

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Athetotheist wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:40 pm [Replying to marke in post #331]
So Darwin saw finches 'evolving' into other finches and concluded that humans evolved from jungle animals in Africa?
"AI Overview
The hominin fossil record, spanning over six million years, provides crucial insights into human evolution, revealing the emergence of bipedalism, tool use, and larger brains, with key fossils like Ardipithecus, Australopithecus, and Homo species showcasing this journey.
"


From a recent post in another thread:


(Keep in mind----the guy giving this presentation is a Christian.)

Marke: A Christian can either believe God created all living species in one week at the beginning or he can believe that because of DNA humans must have shared a common ancestor with rats and watermelons.

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oldbadger wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 2:17 am
marke wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:43 pm
Marke: So Darwin saw finches 'evolving' into other finches and concluded that humans evolved from jungle animals in Africa?
Ha ha! I didn't think you would have learned about all this! 🤣

No. Darwin observed that on islands cut off from each other the flora and fauna had evolved separately from each other, and this was particularly noticeable in the finches that lived on each island. They had evolved in order to take best advantage of the conditions on their islands.

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Marke: How is it that by studying birds Darwin concluded that apes should have evolved into humans and rats, two species that share high degrees of DNA similarity with apes?

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marke wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 3:43 am
]Marke: How is it that by studying birds Darwin concluded that apes should have evolved into humans and rats, two species that share high degrees of DNA similarity with apes?
Darwin studied life.
His interest in finches was a small part of all.

We've seen humans partially evolving during my lifetime. So much longer and lankier than 70 years ago. It's all right Marke..... If you can't bring yourself to find out about all this then you don't have to, or rather, we aren't responsible if you don't.

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oldbadger wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 10:56 am
marke wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 3:43 am
]Marke: How is it that by studying birds Darwin concluded that apes should have evolved into humans and rats, two species that share high degrees of DNA similarity with apes?
Darwin studied life.
His interest in finches was a small part of all.

We've seen humans partially evolving during my lifetime. So much longer and lankier than 70 years ago. It's all right Marke..... If you can't bring yourself to find out about all this then you don't have to, or rather, we aren't responsible if you don't.
Marke: It's too bad Darwin failed to gain a good understanding of theology in college. Darwin never observed animals evolving into humans or even evolving ito other animals with totally different genomes than their parents, like fish evolving into birds or some other such nonsense.

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[Replying to marke in post #337]
It's too bad Darwin failed to gain a good understanding of theology in college.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/20 ... evolution/

Darwin never observed animals evolving into humans or even evolving ito other animals with totally different genomes than their parents, like fish evolving into birds or some other such nonsense.
See? The yardstick rests flat on the ground! That proves the world is flat!

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marke wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 2:12 am
]Marke: It's too bad Darwin failed to gain a good understanding of theology in college. Darwin never observed animals evolving into humans or even evolving ito other animals with totally different genomes than their parents, like fish evolving into birds or some other such nonsense.
Theology? What do you know about theology?

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Athetotheist wrote: Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:14 am [Replying to marke in post #337]
It's too bad Darwin failed to gain a good understanding of theology in college.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/20 ... evolution/

Darwin never observed animals evolving into humans or even evolving ito other animals with totally different genomes than their parents, like fish evolving into birds or some other such nonsense.
See? The yardstick rests flat on the ground! That proves the world is flat!

Marke: I think we can assume that a fish that always breathed air evolved into other fish like it that also breathe air.

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