"Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."

[Athetotheist]

What are we to make of this?




Do they not realize that they're making Jesus out to be a liar?

"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."
(Matthew 24:35)

"He that loveth Me not, keepeth not My sayings. And the Word which you hear is not Mine, but the Father’s who sent Me."
(John 14:24)

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to marke in post #288]

That is what GW devotees believe but not what is currently being evidenced in real life.


https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/se ... r-10-years 7-22-10

Sen. Kerry Predicts ‘Ice-Free Arctic' In '5 or 10 Years’

PENNY STARR | JULY 22, 2010 | 7:36PM EDT

Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) told supporters of his climate change legislation on Thursday that if the bill does not pass catastrophic events will unfold around the world, including an ice free Arctic sea in 5 to 10 years. (CNSNews.com/Penny Starr)
(CNSNews.com) – Speaking at a town hall-style meeting promoting climate change legislation on Thursday, Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) predicted there will be “an ice-free Arctic” in "five or 10 years."

Overall, we rate Media Research Center strongly right-biased based on advocacy for a conservative agenda and Mixed for factual reporting due to the promotion of propaganda, pseudoscience, and a poor fact-check record by their primary sources.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/media-re ... enter-mrc/


We talked to Julienne Stroeve, a researcher for the NSIDC, for some perspective.

Climate scientists "agree that we'll lose summer ice cover," she said. "As to the exact date, it varies between groups."

.....

NASA climate researcher Gavin Schmidt wrote in an e-mail to us that Maslowski's prediction isn't necessarily a communitywide opinion.

"A fair statement would be that some scientists have predicted summer ice free Arctic Ocean as soon as 2013, but others expect it to happen a little slower — say 2040-2060," Schmidt wrote.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... free-2013/

That's why you go to scientists, not to politicians.

[marke]

[Replying to marke in post #288]

That is what GW devotees believe but not what is currently being evidenced in real life.


https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/se ... r-10-years 7-22-10

Sen. Kerry Predicts ‘Ice-Free Arctic' In '5 or 10 Years’

PENNY STARR | JULY 22, 2010 | 7:36PM EDT

Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) told supporters of his climate change legislation on Thursday that if the bill does not pass catastrophic events will unfold around the world, including an ice free Arctic sea in 5 to 10 years. (CNSNews.com/Penny Starr)
(CNSNews.com) – Speaking at a town hall-style meeting promoting climate change legislation on Thursday, Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) predicted there will be “an ice-free Arctic” in "five or 10 years."

Overall, we rate Media Research Center strongly right-biased based on advocacy for a conservative agenda and Mixed for factual reporting due to the promotion of propaganda, pseudoscience, and a poor fact-check record by their primary sources.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/media-re ... enter-mrc/


We talked to Julienne Stroeve, a researcher for the NSIDC, for some perspective.

Climate scientists "agree that we'll lose summer ice cover," she said. "As to the exact date, it varies between groups."

.....

NASA climate researcher Gavin Schmidt wrote in an e-mail to us that Maslowski's prediction isn't necessarily a communitywide opinion.

"A fair statement would be that some scientists have predicted summer ice free Arctic Ocean as soon as 2013, but others expect it to happen a little slower — say 2040-2060," Schmidt wrote.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... free-2013/

That's why you go to scientists, not to politicians.

Marke: Politicians like John Kerry mold public opinion and promote taxes, spending, and regulations based on their opinions. Kerry was obviously wrong and he undermines the entire GW narrative by making grossly false or inaccurate predictions and then doing nothing to apologize for the damage he caused and certainly never apologizing for the harm done to the American people, especially the poorest among us.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to marke in post #292]

Politicians like John Kerry mold public opinion and promote taxes, spending, and regulations based on their opinions. Kerry was obviously wrong and he undermines the entire GW narrative by making grossly false or inaccurate predictions and then doing nothing to apologize for the damage he caused and certainly never apologizing for the harm done to the American people, especially the poorest among us.

Politicians should certainly not misrepresent climate science, but even when they do it doesn't make the science wrong. And the poorest among us are certainly hurt when politicians misrepresent the science, but they're also hurt when politicians say that the science is wrong.

[marke]

[Replying to marke in post #292]

Politicians like John Kerry mold public opinion and promote taxes, spending, and regulations based on their opinions. Kerry was obviously wrong and he undermines the entire GW narrative by making grossly false or inaccurate predictions and then doing nothing to apologize for the damage he caused and certainly never apologizing for the harm done to the American people, especially the poorest among us.

Politicians should certainly not misrepresent climate science, but even when they do it doesn't make the science wrong. And the poorest among us are certainly hurt when politicians misrepresent the science, but they're also hurt when politicians say that the science is wrong.

Marke: Reasonable humans know that politicians and propagandists who promote false narratives create a delusion in society that forms the foundational support for those false narratives. Politicians and spokespeople for GW have been proven wrong dozens of times and the fact that they never admit they were wrong and do not apologize taints the whole of the GW claims and agenda.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to marke in post #294]

Reasonable humans know that politicians and propagandists who promote false narratives create a delusion in society that forms the foundational support for those false narratives. Politicians and spokespeople for GW have been proven wrong dozens of times and the fact that they never admit they were wrong and do not apologize taints the whole of the GW claims and agenda.

As the Earth’s temperature continues to rise, fueling more intense storms and extreme weather, scientists are calling for immediate action to address climate change. However, climate change remains a lower priority for some Americans, and a subset of the public rejects that it’s happening at all.
https://www.pewresearch.org/science/202 ... te-change/

Temperatures are rising.

Sea levels are rising.

Ice sheets are melting.

It's happening.

[marke]

[Replying to marke in post #294]

Reasonable humans know that politicians and propagandists who promote false narratives create a delusion in society that forms the foundational support for those false narratives. Politicians and spokespeople for GW have been proven wrong dozens of times and the fact that they never admit they were wrong and do not apologize taints the whole of the GW claims and agenda.

As the Earth’s temperature continues to rise, fueling more intense storms and extreme weather, scientists are calling for immediate action to address climate change. However, climate change remains a lower priority for some Americans, and a subset of the public rejects that it’s happening at all.
https://www.pewresearch.org/science/202 ... te-change/

Temperatures are rising.

Sea levels are rising.

Ice sheets are melting.

It's happening.

Marke: The decades of failed GW predictions of imminent rising of the seas prove the science was not as accurate as the GW proponents claimed.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to marke in post #296]

The decades of failed GW predictions of imminent rising of the seas prove the science was not as accurate as the GW proponents claimed.

The science shows that the seas are rising slowly, but it shows that they are rising.

[marke]

[Replying to marke in post #296]

The decades of failed GW predictions of imminent rising of the seas prove the science was not as accurate as the GW proponents claimed.

The science shows that the seas are rising slowly, but it shows that they are rising.

Marke: I doubt you have measured the sea levels yourself so I must assume you are simply taking the word of those who claim the seas are rising rather than taking the word of those who say the seas are not rising.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to marke in post #298]

I doubt you have measured the sea levels yourself so I must assume you are simply taking the word of those who claim the seas are rising rather than taking the word of those who say the seas are not rising.

Have you measured the sea levels yourself?

[marke]

[Replying to marke in post #298]

I doubt you have measured the sea levels yourself so I must assume you are simply taking the word of those who claim the seas are rising rather than taking the word of those who say the seas are not rising.

Have you measured the sea levels yourself?

Marke: No, I have not measured the seal levels myself but I did compare photos of Ellis Island that were separated by more than 100 years and there seemed to be absolutely no evidence of a difference in seal levels.