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"Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak."

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What are we to make of this?




Do they not realize that they're making Jesus out to be a liar?

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marke wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:41 am Marke: Global warming narratives are being pushed more to change societal norms than to change the weather.
For the love of everything that is holy!
Great, global warming narratives are doing what you claim. I grant your claim for the sake of debate. Do you get that? I'm granting this as true for you! I'll even agree that they are tiny little demons if you want.

Now that this has been addressed, yet again:

It seems to me that you admit that your thinking is illogical and admit that it fails to address that which we do know to be true about carbon dioxide, but continue to hold your illogical reasoning anyway. Would you continue to flush your blocked toilet? If the plumber that told you not to was a racist that cheated on his wife, would that be sufficient reason to continue to flush your blocked toilet? Flushing a blocked toilet, does what it does no matter who is informing you about it.

When you start to respond about how evil these people are, something I'm willing to grant you, please punch yourself in the face to refocus yourself on what is really being asked. I put it in italics for you and you may even notice some questions marks.
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[Replying to marke in post #260]
Rain clouds can pick uo chemicals or particles in the atmosphere but I hardly see how humans can filter those particles out even if they think those particles are harmful.
So, in other words, "into everyone's life a little [acid] rain must fall"?

Trillions of dollars in cap and trade burdens on industries translates into trillions of dollars in increased prices for the goods being taxed by cap and trade taxes, but cannot reduce or eliminate the supposed harmful chemicals from the atmosphere.
And again, the capitalist religion declares that the supply and demand of the market justifieth all things.
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marke wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:42 am
oldbadger wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:42 am
marke wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:17 pm
How old is the earth? The Biblical record seems to indicate a period of less than 10,000 years. Secularists have devised dating schemes that produce ages in the billions of years, but those measurements are dependent on unverifiable assumptions like those about the original percentages of father-daughter elements in original rocks.
But I'm interested to know what you think. Some of your earlier posts suggest that you believe the earth is much much older than that.

So what do you believe?
Marke: I agree with what Lord Bacon once calculated that the sun cannot possibly be more than 30 million years old.
OK, so you would agree with me that the world is much older than the £10000 years that the extremists claim.

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Clownboat wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 12:20 pm
marke wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:41 am Marke: Global warming narratives are being pushed more to change societal norms than to change the weather.
For the love of everything that is holy!
Great, global warming narratives are doing what you claim. I grant your claim for the sake of debate. Do you get that? I'm granting this as true for you! I'll even agree that they are tiny little demons if you want.

Now that this has been addressed, yet again:

It seems to me that you admit that your thinking is illogical and admit that it fails to address that which we do know to be true about carbon dioxide, but continue to hold your illogical reasoning anyway. Would you continue to flush your blocked toilet? If the plumber that told you not to was a racist that cheated on his wife, would that be sufficient reason to continue to flush your blocked toilet? Flushing a blocked toilet, does what it does no matter who is informing you about it.

Marke: Trees need CO2 to survive and trees produce oxygen that humans need to survive. So why do some people believe CO2 is a bad thing?

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Athetotheist wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 12:46 pm [Replying to marke in post #260]
Rain clouds can pick uo chemicals or particles in the atmosphere but I hardly see how humans can filter those particles out even if they think those particles are harmful.
So, in other words, "into everyone's life a little [acid] rain must fall"?

Marke: How do GW alarmists think they can eliminate SO2 from the air and thus end acid rain by eliminating the use of fossil fuels? Fossil fuel use does not contribute the SO2 to the atmosphere like volcanoes do and scientists cannot eliminate SO2 additives to the atmosphere by volcanoes.

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oldbadger wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 12:49 pm
marke wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 10:42 am
oldbadger wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 2:42 am
marke wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:17 pm
How old is the earth? The Biblical record seems to indicate a period of less than 10,000 years. Secularists have devised dating schemes that produce ages in the billions of years, but those measurements are dependent on unverifiable assumptions like those about the original percentages of father-daughter elements in original rocks.
But I'm interested to know what you think. Some of your earlier posts suggest that you believe the earth is much much older than that.

So what do you believe?
Marke: I agree with what Lord Bacon once calculated that the sun cannot possibly be more than 30 million years old.
OK, so you would agree with me that the world is much older than the £10000 years that the extremists claim.
Marke: I admit that I could be wrong but nobody can prove the earth is older than 10,000 years.

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marke wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 4:28 pm
]Marke: I admit that I could be wrong but nobody can prove the earth is older than 10,000 years.
Oh Marke!
A young Earth?
No human assisted global warming?

Have a nice day, Marke.

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[Replying to marke in post #264]
Trees need CO2 to survive and trees produce oxygen that humans need to survive. So why do some people believe CO2 is a bad thing?
Go back to post #258 and review the observation I made about water.


And since you acknowledge that trees produce oxygen which humans need to survive, are you making the connection between that and the effects of large-scale deforestation?
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[Replying to marke in post #265]
How do GW alarmists think they can eliminate SO2 from the air and thus end acid rain by eliminating the use of fossil fuels? Fossil fuel use does not contribute the SO2 to the atmosphere like volcanoes do and scientists cannot eliminate SO2 additives to the atmosphere by volcanoes.

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Humans emit approximately 1.8 million short tons of sulfur dioxide (SO2) into the atmosphere annually in the U.S., primarily from burning fuels in power plants, industrial processes, and transportation.
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Volcanoes collectively emit an estimated 20 to 25 million tons of sulfur dioxide (SO2) into the atmosphere each year.
Carbon dioxide (CO2) is a greenhouse gas and is the primary gas blamed for climate change. While sulfur dioxide released in contemporary volcanic eruptions has occasionally caused detectable global cooling of the lower atmosphere, the carbon dioxide released in contemporary volcanic eruptions has never caused detectable global warming of the atmosphere. In 2010, human activities were responsible for a projected 35 billion metric tons (gigatons) of CO2 emissions. All studies to date of global volcanic carbon dioxide emissions indicate that present-day subaerial and submarine volcanoes release less than a percent of the carbon dioxide released currently by human activities.
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oldbadger wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 5:21 pm
marke wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 4:28 pm
]Marke: I admit that I could be wrong but nobody can prove the earth is older than 10,000 years.
Oh Marke!
A young Earth?
No human assisted global warming?

Have a nice day, Marke.

Marke: Believing secular dating schemes that all rely on a concerning degree of assumptions, and believing the computed secular results from those schemes is not the same thing as proving the results are accurate.
Believing humans contribute to global warming is a far cry from justifying the regulatory burdens, restrictions, and cost increases forced upon Americans by those who have faith in alarmist global warming assumptions. Even if humans did create a climate change disaster they can do very little to alter the climate going forward.

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