Thorn's in a rose bush

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Can anyone ever explain how the Father can exist without having a beginning? Let me answer the question, NO! It doesn't make sense as men understand things, but God's ways are not our ways.

Question 2: Can anyone explain how Jesus existed without having a beginning? The same answer: NO! My Bible states that the Word, Jesus Christ, was WITH the Father before the creation, and the Word (Jesus) was God.

Revelation 13:8, "And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."

Decreed before the creation. Sinners, unbelievers and deniers, who remain on the earth in contrast to those in heaven shall worship the Lamb. It's the Lamb's book of life, not the Father's. So, it's the Lamb, Jesus Christ who will be worshipped.

In the counsel of the Godhead, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, declared Jesus Christ to be a "Lamb slain before the foundation of the world."

Because the Watchtower decided to corrupt John 1:1, and with great sorrow I say, millions have swallowed that lie hook line and sinker, and they continue to draw people away from the Lord Jesus Christ. It’s with their corrupted verse from a corrupted Bible, claiming, "The Word was a god." The only Bible in the world that makes Jesus Christ a god, except for 1 or 2 versions no one has ever seen or heard of.

2000 years of history denied by a group who came out of the woodwork 125 years ago. A group rejected by every mainline Christian church and organization throughout the World. But they do have bedfellows, Mormons, and Muslims who also claim Jesus is not God. They say, "He's a good man, a prophet, a god, maybe; but surely not "God."

Jehovah's Witnesses won’t admit their own Bible calls Jesus Jehovah in, Luke 2:11, "Which is Christ the Lord." Interpreted is, the Messiah is Jehovah." N.W.T. footnotes on Luke 2:11, 1984 edition. "Christ (the) Lord." Greek, Khristos' Kyrios. This expression might be a Greek rendering of the Hebrew ma-shi'ach Yeho-wah'. But they had to add, "Jehovah's Christ."

I love it, they say it "MIGHT BE!" What does "it might be" mean? It is, or it isn't. Dishonest to the core.

Another of their deceptions.
Jesus said in Revelation 1:8, "I am alpha and omega, the beginning and the end, the Almighty." Again, the corrupt Watchtower organization claims these words apply only to the Father. Wrong! Jesus is speaking and uses the pronoun "I" not my Father is.

Here's another one concerning the Holy Spirit. The pronoun "He" does not mean "He" to a Jehovah's Witness, "He" means "It". The Holy Spirit is not "he", but an "it," the breath of the Father.

In John 15:26, concerning the Holy Spirit they changed "he" to "that one”. They did the same thing in John 14:26. In John 14:17, speaking of the Holy Spirit, they changed "him" to "it."

Paul said, 2 Corinthians 11:10, "Christ is in me," not the Father is in me.
Verse 13, "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

Paul said Philippians 1:13, "My bonds in Christ are manifest in all the palace, and in all other places." He didn't say "My bonds in the Father are manifest---."

Philippians 1:1, to all the saints in Christ Jesus." Not the saints in the Father."

Believers are the Bride of Christ, not the bride of the Father.

Ephesians 1:1, "Paul, and apostle of Jesus Christ by the word of God (theos)." By the will of God, hmmm! Jesus is the Word, and in Acts 8, it was the will of the Lord Jesus that made Paul tremble. It was the Lord Jesus who told Paul to arise. It was the Lord Jesus who said concerning Paul, “He is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: for I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my names sake.” Nothing there about the Father.

And what name would that be? It’s Jesus, who is Jehovah, all to the glory of his Father who is also Jehovah.

[Purple Knight]

Can anyone ever explain how the Father can exist without having a beginning?

It's infinite regression all the way down. Either the universe had a beginning, which seems nonsensical, or it didn't, which is just as much of a head-scratcher.

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Can anyone ever explain how the Father can exist without having a beginning?

Many can explain, but how would we know the explanation is correct? Bible doesn't say how it is possible.

...They say, "He's a good man..."

Also Paul says so.

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1 Tim. 2:5

Should people believe Paul or you?

[Capbook]

Can anyone ever explain how the Father can exist without having a beginning?

Many can explain, but how would we know the explanation is correct? Bible doesn't say how it is possible.

...They say, "He's a good man..."

Also Paul says so.

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1 Tim. 2:5

Should people believe Paul or you?

We believe apostle Paul that says;
1. There is one God,
2. Jesus is man,
3. What we need is verse that says, Jesus is not God.

[placebofactor]

Can anyone ever explain how the Father can exist without having a beginning?

Many can explain, but how would we know the explanation is correct? Bible doesn't say how it is possible.

...They say, "He's a good man..."

Also Paul says so.

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1 Tim. 2:5

Should people believe Paul or you?

Let me interpret 1 Timothy 2:5 for you. Concerning you, me, and every person who has ever taken a breath, there is one God, his name is Jesus, Jehovah in the O.T.

And there is one mediator between man and the Father, his name is Jesus. Jesus Christ is both our God and our Mediator. He is our bridge to the throne of the Father who was the offended party when man (Adam) sinned.

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...And there is one mediator between man and the Father, his name is Jesus. Jesus Christ is both our God and our Mediator. He is our bridge to the throne of the Father who was the offended party when man (Adam) sinned.

So, are you seriously saying Jesus is the bridge to himself?

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3. What we need is verse that says, Jesus is not God.

Jesus says there is only on true God who is greater than him. Are his words not enough?

This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
John 17:3
Jesus said to her, "Don't touch me, for I haven't yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brothers, and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"
John 20:17
the Father is greater than I.
John 14:28

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3. What we need is verse that says, Jesus is not God.

Jesus says there is only on true God who is greater than him. Are his words not enough?

This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
John 17:3
Jesus said to her, "Don't touch me, for I haven't yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brothers, and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"
John 20:17
the Father is greater than I.
John 14:28

God being greater, higher in rank and position than Jesus is called "relational subordination," is simply a term to describe the relationship that exists among Jesus and God the Father.
In John 17:3, does not say that Jesus is not God. In this verse how can a Christian experience eternal life?
Who do you think has the eternal life in 1 John 5:11?
And who do you think has the eternal life in 1 John 5:20?

[onewithhim]

Can anyone ever explain how the Father can exist without having a beginning?

Many can explain, but how would we know the explanation is correct? Bible doesn't say how it is possible.

...They say, "He's a good man..."

Also Paul says so.

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1 Tim. 2:5

Should people believe Paul or you?

We believe apostle Paul that says;
1. There is one God,
2. Jesus is man,
3. What we need is verse that says, Jesus is not God.

Jesus said that he is God's Son, therefore skewering the idea that he is God. It's very plain. He said, "I am God's Son." How can God be his own Son? (John 10:36)

[Capbook]

Can anyone ever explain how the Father can exist without having a beginning?

Many can explain, but how would we know the explanation is correct? Bible doesn't say how it is possible.

...They say, "He's a good man..."

Also Paul says so.

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1 Tim. 2:5

Should people believe Paul or you?

We believe apostle Paul that says;
1. There is one God,
2. Jesus is man,
3. What we need is verse that says, Jesus is not God.

Jesus said that he is God's Son, therefore skewering the idea that he is God. It's very plain. He said, "I am God's Son." How can God be his own Son? (John 10:36)

Yes, but it does not say Jesus is not God.
NASB is not a paraphrase translation, rendered John 1:18 Jesus the only begotten God, had seen the Father.

Jhn 1:18 No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him. (NASB)