The angel came to Joseph and Mary and said, Luke 2:11, “For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord.”
John 1:1, “The Word was made flesh.”
When? “This day.”
Where? In Jerusalem, the “city of David.”
The time had come for prophecy to be fulfilled, and with faith, the Jews were to look for their Messiah.
Jesus was born a “Savior” not one who shall be a Savior but born a Savior.
“Christ the Lord.” Luke 2:11 is the only place where these words come together; And there can be no other way to understand that “Lord” here corresponds to the Hebrew “Jehovah.” Even the N.W.T. agrees with it, at least their 1984 edition does.
The Septuagint generally translates “Yehovah” by the Greek word “Kurios.” The Hebrew word “hayah,” = "he was," properly points out the eternity and self-existence of the Supreme being: So, “Kurios” is a proper translation or Yehovah, and comes from “I am, I exist.”
To understand and believe that Jehovah is not only Almighty, that he is not only all-sufficient, but he is God with us. Matthew 1:23.
And he is, 1 Timothy 3:16, “God was manifest in the flesh.”
Jesus Lordship must be understood strictly in a spiritual sense. He never set up a secular government upon the earth, neither commanded any to be established in his name: and there certainly is no spiritual government except that of Jehovah.
To conclude, Jesus Christ is Jehovah in the flesh, came to dwell with men in this lowly place and the commonest environment, the city called Bethlehem.
"Suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, and good will toward men."
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Post #2Any Jehovah's want to comment on my post? If not, why not? Your Bible makes the same claims as I posted, proving Jesus Christ is Jehovah, our Lord, Savior, Redeemer, and Bridegroom.placebofactor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 12:02 pm The angel came to Joseph and Mary and said, Luke 2:11, “For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord.”
John 1:1, “The Word was made flesh.”
When? “This day.”
Where? In Jerusalem, the “city of David.”
The time had come for prophecy to be fulfilled, and with faith, the Jews were to look for their Messiah.
Jesus was born a “Savior” not one who shall be a Savior but born a Savior.
“Christ the Lord.” Luke 2:11 is the only place where these words come together; And there can be no other way to understand that “Lord” here corresponds to the Hebrew “Jehovah.” Even the N.W.T. agrees with it, at least their 1984 edition does.
The Septuagint generally translates “Yehovah” by the Greek word “Kurios.” The Hebrew word “hayah,” = "he was," properly points out the eternity and self-existence of the Supreme being: So, “Kurios” is a proper translation or Yehovah, and comes from “I am, I exist.”
To understand and believe that Jehovah is not only Almighty, that he is not only all-sufficient, but he is God with us. Matthew 1:23.
And he is, 1 Timothy 3:16, “God was manifest in the flesh.”
Jesus Lordship must be understood strictly in a spiritual sense. He never set up a secular government upon the earth, neither commanded any to be established in his name: and there certainly is no spiritual government except that of Jehovah.
To conclude, Jesus Christ is Jehovah in the flesh, came to dwell with men in this lowly place and the commonest environment, the city called Bethlehem.
"Suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, and good will toward men."
Footnotes of the N.W.T. concerning Luke 2:11, "Or, "is to be"." "Christ the LORD." Greek, Khri-stos" ky'ri-os, This expression might be a Greek rendering of the Hebrew, ma-shi'ach Yeho-wah,"
Then to cover their tracks, they rewrite the meaning, and claim it means, Jehovah's Christ.
NO! It means Christ is Jehovah." “Christ the Lord.”
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Post #3Jesus is the Son of God, Mark 1:1. Hope this helps. To learn more go to www.Gotquestions.orgplacebofactor wrote: ↑Sat Mar 01, 2025 6:53 pmAny Jehovah's want to comment on my post? If not, why not? Your Bible makes the same claims as I posted, proving Jesus Christ is Jehovah, our Lord, Savior, Redeemer, and Bridegroom.placebofactor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 12:02 pm The angel came to Joseph and Mary and said, Luke 2:11, “For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord.”
John 1:1, “The Word was made flesh.”
When? “This day.”
Where? In Jerusalem, the “city of David.”
The time had come for prophecy to be fulfilled, and with faith, the Jews were to look for their Messiah.
Jesus was born a “Savior” not one who shall be a Savior but born a Savior.
“Christ the Lord.” Luke 2:11 is the only place where these words come together; And there can be no other way to understand that “Lord” here corresponds to the Hebrew “Jehovah.” Even the N.W.T. agrees with it, at least their 1984 edition does.
The Septuagint generally translates “Yehovah” by the Greek word “Kurios.” The Hebrew word “hayah,” = "he was," properly points out the eternity and self-existence of the Supreme being: So, “Kurios” is a proper translation or Yehovah, and comes from “I am, I exist.”
To understand and believe that Jehovah is not only Almighty, that he is not only all-sufficient, but he is God with us. Matthew 1:23.
And he is, 1 Timothy 3:16, “God was manifest in the flesh.”
Jesus Lordship must be understood strictly in a spiritual sense. He never set up a secular government upon the earth, neither commanded any to be established in his name: and there certainly is no spiritual government except that of Jehovah.
To conclude, Jesus Christ is Jehovah in the flesh, came to dwell with men in this lowly place and the commonest environment, the city called Bethlehem.
"Suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, and good will toward men."
Footnotes of the N.W.T. concerning Luke 2:11, "Or, "is to be"." "Christ the LORD." Greek, Khri-stos" ky'ri-os, This expression might be a Greek rendering of the Hebrew, ma-shi'ach Yeho-wah,"
Then to cover their tracks, they rewrite the meaning, and claim it means, Jehovah's Christ.
NO! It means Christ is Jehovah." “Christ the Lord.”
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Re: Christ the Lord
Post #4Acts 2:34 For David did not ascend to the heavens, but he himself says,
‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand 35 until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”’ [Psal. ]
36 Therefore, let all the house of Israel know for a certainty that God made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you executed on a stake.
According to the scripture, who was the God who made Jesus "Lord", if not the one who seated him at his right hand???
That is why Jesus calls Jehovah, his Father, "Lord of heaven and earth."
Matt. 11:25 At that time Jesus said in response:
“I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. 26 Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved."
Paul also called Jehovah this way:
Acts 17:24 The God who made the world and all the things in it, being, as he is, Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in handmade temples; (...) 31 (...) he has set a day on which he purposes to judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and he has provided a guarantee to all men by resurrecting him from the dead.
‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand 35 until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”’ [Psal. ]
36 Therefore, let all the house of Israel know for a certainty that God made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you executed on a stake.
According to the scripture, who was the God who made Jesus "Lord", if not the one who seated him at his right hand???
That is why Jesus calls Jehovah, his Father, "Lord of heaven and earth."
Matt. 11:25 At that time Jesus said in response:
“I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. 26 Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved."
Paul also called Jehovah this way:
Acts 17:24 The God who made the world and all the things in it, being, as he is, Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in handmade temples; (...) 31 (...) he has set a day on which he purposes to judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and he has provided a guarantee to all men by resurrecting him from the dead.
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Post #5You asked, "According to the scripture, who was the God who made Jesus "Lord", if not the one who seated him at his right hand???"Bible_Student wrote: ↑Sat Mar 01, 2025 7:15 pm Acts 2:34 For David did not ascend to the heavens, but he himself says,
‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand 35 until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”’ [Psal. ]
36 Therefore, let all the house of Israel know for a certainty that God made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you executed on a stake.
According to the scripture, who was the God who made Jesus "Lord", if not the one who seated him at his right hand???
That is why Jesus calls Jehovah, his Father, "Lord of heaven and earth."
Matt. 11:25 At that time Jesus said in response:
“I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. 26 Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved."
Paul also called Jehovah this way:
Acts 17:24 The God who made the world and all the things in it, being, as he is, Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in handmade temples; (...) 31 (...) he has set a day on which he purposes to judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and he has provided a guarantee to all men by resurrecting him from the dead.
Are you implying the word "made" here means to create? That God created Jesus? I hope that's not what you're saying. It means the Father put Jesus in the position of the Messiah, the Savior.
If you desire to change Jehovah for the Father, don't shortchange Jesus by writing Lord. You should have written it this way. Verse 34, "For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he said himself, Jehovah said unto Jehovah, sit thou on my right hand, until I make thy foes thy footstool.
Not only was Jesus the Messiah, but the supreme Governor of all things and all persons, Jews and Gentiles, and angels. In the preceding verses, Peter proves to the Jews, Jesus' resurrection, his ascension, and his exaltation to the Father's right hand, the pouring out of the Holy Spirit, the first fruits of his glorification. These things were not only promised by Jesus but foretold by the Old Testament prophets. Jesus was the promised Messiah, the head of the universe, the one all Israel had been waiting for.
Peter told the Jews they should fear their Messiah's power and justice, because they had refused his mercy and kindness. And the people said to Peter, "What shall we do?"
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Post #6It that is your final answer: Acts 2:34:'..Jehovah said to my Jehovah..?'placebofactor wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:21 amYou asked, "According to the scripture, who was the God who made Jesus "Lord", if not the one who seated him at his right hand???"Bible_Student wrote: ↑Sat Mar 01, 2025 7:15 pm Acts 2:34 For David did not ascend to the heavens, but he himself says,
‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand 35 until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”’ [Psal. ]
36 Therefore, let all the house of Israel know for a certainty that God made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you executed on a stake.
According to the scripture, who was the God who made Jesus "Lord", if not the one who seated him at his right hand???
That is why Jesus calls Jehovah, his Father, "Lord of heaven and earth."
Matt. 11:25 At that time Jesus said in response:
“I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. 26 Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved."
Paul also called Jehovah this way:
Acts 17:24 The God who made the world and all the things in it, being, as he is, Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in handmade temples; (...) 31 (...) he has set a day on which he purposes to judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and he has provided a guarantee to all men by resurrecting him from the dead.
Are you implying the word "made" here means to create? That God created Jesus? I hope that's not what you're saying. It means the Father put Jesus in the position of the Messiah, the Savior.
If you desire to change Jehovah for the Father, don't shortchange Jesus by writing Lord. You should have written it this way. Verse 34, "For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he said himself, Jehovah said unto Jehovah, sit thou on my right hand, until I make thy foes thy footstool.
Not only was Jesus the Messiah, but the supreme Governor of all things and all persons, Jews and Gentiles, and angels. In the preceding verses, Peter proves to the Jews, Jesus' resurrection, his ascension, and his exaltation to the Father's right hand, the pouring out of the Holy Spirit, the first fruits of his glorification. These things were not only promised by Jesus but foretold by the Old Testament prophets. Jesus was the promised Messiah, the head of the universe, the one all Israel had been waiting for.
Peter told the Jews they should fear their Messiah's power and justice, because they had refused his mercy and kindness. And the people said to Peter, "What shall we do?"
Sorry, you again have the incorrect answer. Where in scripture does it ever read or mean what you wrote? No where!
These are some of the correct choices:
The Lord sayd to my Lorde (Geneva)
The LORD said to my Lord (EMTV)
The LORD says to my Lord (LSV)
The Lord God said to my Lord (ERV)
The LORD said unto my Lord (KJV)
The LORD said to my Lord (Webster)
If you had slowed down to read the entire verse you might have gleamed some context that would have steered you to the correct answer(s).
King David, a human being, did not ascend into heaven, it was the human man Jesus, his descendant, who ascended into heaven, and God, his Father, the LORD God, was there to receive him, in glory..
John 14:28, Jesus says, "I am going to the Father, for My Father is greater than I"
PF, do you dig it?
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Post #7The Lord, the small capitals used in translating the word “Lord” in the Bible denote that the original word is יהוה Yahweh. The Hebrews regarded this as the unique name of God, a name incommunicable to any other being. It is not applied to any being but God in the Scriptures. The Jews had such a reverence for it that they never pronounced it.APAK wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 12:55 pmIt that is your final answer: Acts 2:34:'..Jehovah said to my Jehovah..?'placebofactor wrote: ↑Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:21 amYou asked, "According to the scripture, who was the God who made Jesus "Lord", if not the one who seated him at his right hand???"Bible_Student wrote: ↑Sat Mar 01, 2025 7:15 pm Acts 2:34 For David did not ascend to the heavens, but he himself says,
‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand 35 until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”’ [Psal. ]
36 Therefore, let all the house of Israel know for a certainty that God made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you executed on a stake.
According to the scripture, who was the God who made Jesus "Lord", if not the one who seated him at his right hand???
That is why Jesus calls Jehovah, his Father, "Lord of heaven and earth."
Matt. 11:25 At that time Jesus said in response:
“I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones and have revealed them to young children. 26 Yes, O Father, because this is the way you approved."
Paul also called Jehovah this way:
Acts 17:24 The God who made the world and all the things in it, being, as he is, Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in handmade temples; (...) 31 (...) he has set a day on which he purposes to judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and he has provided a guarantee to all men by resurrecting him from the dead.
Are you implying the word "made" here means to create? That God created Jesus? I hope that's not what you're saying. It means the Father put Jesus in the position of the Messiah, the Savior.
If you desire to change Jehovah for the Father, don't shortchange Jesus by writing Lord. You should have written it this way. Verse 34, "For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he said himself, Jehovah said unto Jehovah, sit thou on my right hand, until I make thy foes thy footstool.
Not only was Jesus the Messiah, but the supreme Governor of all things and all persons, Jews and Gentiles, and angels. In the preceding verses, Peter proves to the Jews, Jesus' resurrection, his ascension, and his exaltation to the Father's right hand, the pouring out of the Holy Spirit, the first fruits of his glorification. These things were not only promised by Jesus but foretold by the Old Testament prophets. Jesus was the promised Messiah, the head of the universe, the one all Israel had been waiting for.
Peter told the Jews they should fear their Messiah's power and justice, because they had refused his mercy and kindness. And the people said to Peter, "What shall we do?"
Sorry, you again have the incorrect answer. Where in scripture does it ever read or mean what you wrote? No where!
These are some of the correct choices:
The Lord sayd to my Lorde (Geneva)
The LORD said to my Lord (EMTV)
The LORD says to my Lord (LSV)
The Lord God said to my Lord (ERV)
The LORD said unto my Lord (KJV)
The LORD said to my Lord (Webster)
If you had slowed down to read the entire verse you might have gleamed some context that would have steered you to the correct answer(s).
King David, a human being, did not ascend into heaven, it was the human man Jesus, his descendant, who ascended into heaven, and God, his Father, the LORD God, was there to receive him, in glory..
John 14:28, Jesus says, "I am going to the Father, for My Father is greater than I"
PF, do you dig it?
My Lord, this is a different word in the Hebrew, it is אדני ̀Adonaay. It properly is applied by a servant to his master, or a subject to his sovereign, or is used as a title of respect by an inferior to a superior.
Acts 2:34 (TS2009) “For Dawiḏ did not ascend into the heavens, but he himself said, ‘יהוה said to my Master, “Sit at My right hand.
Mat 22:42 saying, “What do you think concerning the Messiah? Whose Son is He?” They said to Him, “The Son of Dawiḏ.
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Post #8[Replying to Capbook in post #7]
Yes, indeed.
(Cepher) For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he said himself, Yahuah said unto my Adonai, Sit on my right hand,
Yes, indeed.
(Cepher) For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he said himself, Yahuah said unto my Adonai, Sit on my right hand,
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