Maunday Thursday

[rstrats]

Does anyone who is familiar with Maundy Thursday, the day during Holy Week which commemorates the washing of the feet and last supper of the Messiah with the apostles know what part of Thursday that this took place - during the night time at the beginning of Thursday, or during the daytime toward the end of Thursday?

[rstrats]

Sorry I was "dumbing it down" for those that might not understand the Jewish system. Sorry to confuse you.

Still am.

[JehovahsWitness]

Sorry I was "dumbing it down" for those that might not understand the Jewish system. Sorry to confuse you.

Still am.

Probably because you are reading something I didn't write ...

First you say that Thursday started in the evening ....{snip}

....where did I say the sentence "Thursday started in the evening"?

[rstrats]

....where did I say the sentence "Thursday started in the evening"?

Since the OP is about Thursday, when you wrote "For the Jews the day started in the evening." I just assumed that you were referring to Thursday. If you weren't, to what were you referring?

[JehovahsWitness]

....where did I say the sentence "Thursday started in the evening"?

Since the OP is about Thursday, when you wrote "For the Jews the day started in the evening." I just assumed that you were referring to Thursday. If you weren't, to what were you referring?

I was refering to how the Jews counted all their days - ie every day of every month of every year always started at sundown (the evening ).

• You asked when Jesus washed the Apostles feet and I said probably Thursday in the afternoon.

• You then asked if the last supper (the evening meal ) would have been "Friday night"? And I said yes (but explaind that we would have called it "Thursday evening" because in modern western societies the day starts at midnight, rather than sunset)

[1213]

Why do you think it happened on Thursday?

How else can you get at least a portion of three daytimes and at least a portion of three night times in the "heart of the hearth"?

Wouldn't Thursday mean he died on Friday? And if he died on Friday and was risen before Sunday morning, it would mean he was dead only two nights two days?

[rstrats]

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Wouldn't Thursday mean he died on Friday? [/quote]

I don't understand what you mean.

And, if he died on Friday and was risen before Sunday morning, it would mean he was dead only two nights two days?

Actually, if He died on Friday and rose Sunday morning, there would have been a portion of a calendar day and a portion of a daytime on Friday. Then a full calendar day, a full night time and a full daytime on Saturday. And finally, at least a portion of a calendar day and at least a portion of a night time and maybe a portion of a daytime on Sunday.

[1213]

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Actually, if He died on Friday and rose Sunday morning, there would have been a portion of a calendar day and a portion of a daytime on Friday. Then a full calendar day, a full night time and a full daytime on Saturday. And finally, at least a portion of a calendar day and at least a portion of a night time and maybe a portion of a daytime on Sunday.

Yes, and i don't think that would be the same as:

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Matt. 12:40

I believe the day Jesus died was Wednesday. Thursday was the first Shabbat day of the feast of unleavened day.

On the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread to Yahweh. Seven days you shall eat unleavened bread. In the first day you shall have a holy convocation. You shall do no regular work. But you shall offer an offering made by fire to Yahweh seven days. In the seventh day is a holy convocation: you shall do no regular work.'"
Lev. 23:6-8

This means the meal was when the Wednesday begun about at 21:00 Tuesday evening.

By this way Jesus was in death 3 days and nights and rose from the tomb Saturday evening.

This makes it also possible for the women to prepare the herbs, because Friday would have been non Shabbat day, and they would have been allowed to do it.

[JehovahsWitness]

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Actually, if He died on Friday and rose Sunday morning, there would have been a portion of a calendar day and a portion of a daytime on Friday. Then a full calendar day, a full night time and a full daytime on Saturday. And finally, at least a portion of a calendar day and at least a portion of a night time and maybe a portion of a daytime on Sunday.

Yes, and i don't think that would be the same as:

For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Matt. 12:40

You have misunderstood what Jesus was saying because you are counting 72 hours (Jesus never mentioned the number 72) Since Jesus never mentioned the number of hours nor the number 72 there is no reason to be dogmatic about it .

The only way to properly understand Jesus words is to count "days and nights" as Jesus (a Jew) would have.

Further , Jesus could not have died on a Wednesday because 1 Cor 15v4 says he was raised in the THIRD day. The 3rd day after Wednesday would have been the weekly Sabbath (Friday).

JW

[1213]

You have misunderstood what Jesus was saying because you are counting 72 hours (Jesus never mentioned the number 72) Since Jesus never mentioned the number of hours nor the number 72 there is no reason to be dogmatic about it .

He also doesn't say 3+3 is not not 72 hours. I believe Jesus meant 72 hours and therefore I believe it was Wednesday to Saturday. But, I think it is not necessary wrong to think it was Thursday to Saturday.

The 3rd day after Wednesday would have been the weekly Sabbath (Friday).

Why do you call Friday weekly Sabbath?

[JehovahsWitness]

He also doesn't say 3+3 is not not 72 hours.

There is no point in analysing what the bible does NOT say, we have to concentrate on what the bible DOES say. Your insisting on the hours is distracting you from accepting explicit statements made in scripture ...

1 CORINTHIANS 15 v 3b, 4

... Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures; and that he was buried, yes, that he was raised up on the third day+

The point is that there is no way for Jesus to be resurrected on the "third day" and be dead 72 hours. Since 72 is not mentioned in scripture but THIRD DAY *is* we have to concluded that 72 hours is erroneous

FURTHER READING The Bible speaks of Jesus’ being in the tomb for “three days and three nights.” Does that mean that he was in the tomb for a full seventy-two hours?
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1973926