Question for Debate: The Bible says Jesus came back from the dead. And there's a lot about what will happen, as far as Jesus forgiving people and resurrecting them, separating sheep from goats, giving out the rewards, and all that. Does it actually specify that he's still around to do so?
What counts as a lie?
What I'm actually wondering, is if we have a possible case where the vessel of forgiveness is indeed set, by God, as Jesus, but then God kills Jesus at some later point, wipes him out of existence, in order to promise, through Jesus, that everyone can be forgiven, but in reality nobody is forgiven and it doesn't technically count as a lie. I'm not arguing that this is necessarily true, it's a possible case scenario.
Is it possible God did this, because it neatly avoids actually lying while still being able to make a genuine promise, because the part of him that was Jesus meant every word, and then God gets to go back on it? Or is there something in Biblical canon that eliminates this possibility?
Another question I have here is about semantics. I happen to know someone who never lies, but nevertheless is very good at making sure he keeps every letter of his agreements in a way that advantages himself and the other person never would have agreed to if they'd known that would be the result. Then, he always says he is trustworthy. I mean, he is. He keeps the letter of his agreements. Is there a way to describe this behaviour and separate it from the type of trust you'd have for somebody who always keeps their word AND does it in a way that is fair to the other person, even if there's a way to take all and make the other person lose? In my head I'm calling them trustworthy1 (you will get what you expect; he will make sure he keeps the agreement AND is fair) and trustworthy2 (person won't lie, but you will not necessarily get what you expect). Are there better words for these concepts?
Is there a possibility that God is trustworthy1 to his own People, and trustworthy2 to everyone else?
Does the Bible Actually Say Jesus Still Exists?
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Re: Does the Bible Actually Say Jesus Still Exists?
Post #31Many lexicon definition of "spirit" in Hebrew "ruach", some are as;JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:57 pmI cannot see a Hebrew word in your post, I asked For the HEBREW WORD you are referring to.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2024 4:45 pmJehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:59 amThat depends on what you mean by HS.. Can you tell me which Hebrew Bible word from scripture you are refering when you write HS.
I mean the Holy Spirit, of what form He is where He can hear, speak and being heard, show/know things to come, searches all things, knows the thoughts of a man and God, can teach.
The Spirit has will. (reason) (1 Cor 12:11-13)
The Spirit grieved. (Emotion, feeling) Eph 4:30)
You've said it is personification.
So, does it mean that the Spirit was personified as person?
1g) Spirit of God, the third person of the triune God, the Holy Spirit, coequal, coeternal with the Father and the Son
1g7) never referred to as a depersonalized force.
Find below I colored blue.
Psa 51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me
רוּח rûach
BDB Definition:
1) wind, breath, mind, spirit
1a) breath
1b) wind
1b1) of heaven
1b2) quarter (of wind), side
1b3) breath of air
1b4) air, gas
1b5) vain, empty thing
1c) spirit (as that which breathes quickly in animation or agitation)
1c1) spirit, animation, vivacity, vigour
1c2) courage
1c3) temper, anger
1c4) impatience, patience
1c5) spirit, disposition (as troubled, bitter, discontented)
1c6) disposition (of various kinds), unaccountable or uncontrollable impulse
1c7) prophetic spirit
1d) spirit (of the living, breathing being in man and animals)
1d1) as gift, preserved by God, God’s spirit, departing at death, disembodied being
1e) spirit (as seat of emotion)
1e1) desire
1e2) sorrow, trouble
1f) spirit
1f1) as seat or organ of mental acts
1f2) rarely of the will
1f3) as seat especially of moral character
1g) Spirit of God, the third person of the triune God, the Holy Spirit, coequal, coeternal with the Father and the Son
1g1) as inspiring ecstatic state of prophecy
1g2) as impelling prophet to utter instruction or warning
1g3) imparting warlike energy and executive and administrative power
1g4) as endowing men with various gifts
1g5) as energy of life
1g6) as manifest in the Shekinah glory
1g7) never referred to as a depersonalized force