I have a few clarifying question for JW's as follows.
1. Do you claim that Jesus the Christ is just a mortal being like us?
2. Do you claim that Jesus the Christd oes not now have a body of flesh and bones?
Clarifying questions for JW's
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Re: Clarifying questions for JW's
Post #41The title of the thread, "Qualifying questions for JW's.slowrider wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:40 amIf you want a real eye opener about the JW's, visit a kingdom hall for a few timesCapbook wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:05 pmNowhere in the verse that says, three days after death the Church exist.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:04 amYes, in a prophetic* sence since the head represents the body.
VERSE =>
1 CORINTHIANS 12:21, 25
, the head cannot say to the feet, “I do not need you.” ... there should be no division in the body, but its members should have mutual concern for one another.+ ...27 Now you are Christ’s body,+ and each of you individually is a member.+
* NB Both Ezekiel and Jeremiah speak of Prophets achieving what in reality God (YHWH) the Father accomplished. They did it in a prophetc sence by announcing the event : VERSES => Ezekiel 43:3, Jeremiah 1:10.
and get to know the people. Then you will have an understanding of what you are encountering on here.
So the question is, Where is the verse that says three days after Jesus death the Church exists?
Can you answer it here?
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Re: Clarifying questions for JW's
Post #42The verses have been provided.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:23 pmThe title of the thread, "Qualifying questions for JW's.slowrider wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:40 amIf you want a real eye opener about the JW's, visit a kingdom hall for a few timesCapbook wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:05 pmNowhere in the verse that says, three days after death the Church exist.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:04 amYes, in a prophetic* sence since the head represents the body.
VERSE =>
1 CORINTHIANS 12:21, 25
, the head cannot say to the feet, “I do not need you.” ... there should be no division in the body, but its members should have mutual concern for one another.+ ...27 Now you are Christ’s body,+ and each of you individually is a member.+
* NB Both Ezekiel and Jeremiah speak of Prophets achieving what in reality God (YHWH) the Father accomplished. They did it in a prophetc sence by announcing the event : VERSES => Ezekiel 43:3, Jeremiah 1:10.
and get to know the people. Then you will have an understanding of what you are encountering on here.
So the question is, Where is the verse that says three days after Jesus death the Church exists?
Can you answer it here?
JW
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Re: Clarifying questions for JW's
Post #43I see no three days as what Jesus said in the verse you provided.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:27 pmThe verses have been provided.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:23 pmThe title of the thread, "Qualifying questions for JW's.slowrider wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 12:40 amIf you want a real eye opener about the JW's, visit a kingdom hall for a few timesCapbook wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:05 pmNowhere in the verse that says, three days after death the Church exist.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:04 amYes, in a prophetic* sence since the head represents the body.
VERSE =>
1 CORINTHIANS 12:21, 25
, the head cannot say to the feet, “I do not need you.” ... there should be no division in the body, but its members should have mutual concern for one another.+ ...27 Now you are Christ’s body,+ and each of you individually is a member.+
* NB Both Ezekiel and Jeremiah speak of Prophets achieving what in reality God (YHWH) the Father accomplished. They did it in a prophetc sence by announcing the event : VERSES => Ezekiel 43:3, Jeremiah 1:10.
and get to know the people. Then you will have an understanding of what you are encountering on here.
So the question is, Where is the verse that says three days after Jesus death the Church exists?
Can you answer it here?
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Re: Clarifying questions for JW's
Post #44That is not my problem. I cannot control what you see only what is provided.
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Re: Clarifying questions for JW's
Post #45Please link where this was provided.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:33 pm
That is not my problem. I cannot control what you see only what is provided.

An immaterial nothing creating a material something is as logically sound as square circles and married bachelors.
Unjustified Fact Claim(UFC) example - belief (of any sort) based on personal subjective experience. (Belief-based belief)
Justified Fact Claim(JFC) Example, The Earth is spherical in shape. (Knowledge-based belief)
Irrefutable Fact Claim (IFC) Example Humans in general experience some level of self-awareness. (Knowledge-based knowledge)
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Re: Clarifying questions for JW's
Post #46The problem might be that your interpretation of John 2:19-21 is wrong. As Jesus spake of the temple of His body that He would raise in three days. As Jesus said, He would lay down His life and will take it again. (John 10:17)JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 12:33 pm
That is not my problem. I cannot control what you see only what is provided.
Jhn 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
Jhn 2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Jhn 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
Jhn 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again
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Post #47I'm happy to read any evidence that is non-circular proving your claim but as yet you have not presented anything.
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Re: Clarifying questions for JW's
Post #48I quote Bible text, is Jesus words wrong to you?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 1:55 pm
I'm happy to read any evidence that is non-circular proving your claim but as yet you have not presented anything.
Jhn 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
Jhn 2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Jhn 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
Jhn 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again
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Re: Clarifying questions for JW's
Post #49I have explained those words with scripture. I think there is no point in continuing this exchange.Capbook wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:13 pmI quote Bible text, is Jesus words wrong to you?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 1:55 pm
I'm happy to read any evidence that is non-circular proving your claim but as yet you have not presented anything.
Jhn 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
Jhn 2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Jhn 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
Jhn 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again
Please have an excellent and most wonderful evening.
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Re: Clarifying questions for JW's
Post #50Dear Onewithhim,
In my post #34 on December 7 I posed a question as quoted below”
“It appears that you are directly denying the resurrected Christ’s clear witness and testimony that he indeed had a resurrected body of flesh and bones as he clearly stated:
Luke 24: 39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
I find it amazing that you can see that Christ created the heavens and the earth and has ALL power in heaven and earth, can command the elements and they obey, can change water to wine, etc.
But with your man made finite conclusions you without evidence assume that he who has all power on earth and in heaven is woefully impotent to control the elements allowing him to pass through a door or wall????
Come now, do you think I should accept your “private interpretation” over the clear witness and testimony of the risen Lord of Lords as found in Luke 24:39 ???”
By your former posts it is very clear that you clearly deny that Jesus Christ does not have a resurrected body of flesh and bones.
This is clearly in direct opposition to our risen Lord’s testimony as
stated in Luke 24:39.
Unless you can provide clear scriptural evidence to prove that our Lord Jesus Christ is lying to the apostles in the above verse, then it is clear evidence that you have a clear and serious problem.
It appears that your position is just another “man made” private interpretation of scripture which totally contradicts Christ’s testimony.
In my post #34 on December 7 I posed a question as quoted below”
“It appears that you are directly denying the resurrected Christ’s clear witness and testimony that he indeed had a resurrected body of flesh and bones as he clearly stated:
Luke 24: 39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
I find it amazing that you can see that Christ created the heavens and the earth and has ALL power in heaven and earth, can command the elements and they obey, can change water to wine, etc.
But with your man made finite conclusions you without evidence assume that he who has all power on earth and in heaven is woefully impotent to control the elements allowing him to pass through a door or wall????
Come now, do you think I should accept your “private interpretation” over the clear witness and testimony of the risen Lord of Lords as found in Luke 24:39 ???”
By your former posts it is very clear that you clearly deny that Jesus Christ does not have a resurrected body of flesh and bones.
This is clearly in direct opposition to our risen Lord’s testimony as
stated in Luke 24:39.
Unless you can provide clear scriptural evidence to prove that our Lord Jesus Christ is lying to the apostles in the above verse, then it is clear evidence that you have a clear and serious problem.
It appears that your position is just another “man made” private interpretation of scripture which totally contradicts Christ’s testimony.