Clarifying questions for JW's

[Revelations won]

I have a few clarifying question for JW's as follows.

1. Do you claim that Jesus the Christ is just a mortal being like us?

2. Do you claim that Jesus the Christd oes not now have a body of flesh and bones?

[JehovahsWitness]

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Jesus was put to death in the flesh and was resurrected by ...Jesus

A dead man cannot resurrect himself.

Yes, there are verses that the Father resurrect Jesus.
And there are verses that says the Spirit resurrect Jesus.

Are there any verses that say that Jesus resurrected Jesus?

[slowrider]

A dead man cannot resurrect himself.


Yes, there are verses that the Father resurrect Jesus.
And there are verses that says the Spirit resurrect Jesus.



Are there verses that say that Jesus resurrected Jesus?

This proves you are incorrect.
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

[William]

A dead man cannot resurrect himself.


Yes, there are verses that the Father resurrect Jesus.
And there are verses that says the Spirit resurrect Jesus.



Are there verses that say that Jesus resurrected Jesus?

This proves you are incorrect.
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

That is a massive claim which seems to relate to the temptation in the desert story - in that we now have Jesus claiming to have received those things that Satan had offered him if Jesus would worship Satan.

We could deduce from this, that what was Satan's was taken from Satan and given to Jesus.

This would mean that they who believe that Satan is the ruler of this world, do so by ignoring Jesus' claim.

[slowrider]

A dead man cannot resurrect himself.


Yes, there are verses that the Father resurrect Jesus.
And there are verses that says the Spirit resurrect Jesus.



Are there verses that say that Jesus resurrected Jesus?

This proves you are incorrect.
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

That is a massive claim which seems to relate to the temptation in the desert story - in that we now have Jesus claiming to have received those things that Satan had offered him if Jesus would worship Satan.

We could deduce from this, that what was Satan's was taken from Satan and given to Jesus.

This would mean that they who believe that Satan is the ruler of this world, do so by ignoring Jesus' claim.

Lean not to your own understanding. It is wrong for you.

[Capbook]

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Jesus was put to death in the flesh and was resurrected by ...Jesus

A dead man cannot resurrect himself.

Yes, there are verses that the Father resurrect Jesus.
And there are verses that says the Spirit resurrect Jesus.

Are there any verses that say that Jesus resurrected Jesus?

Jesus had said to raise His body (temple) in three days. (John 2:19-21)
And Jesus said He'd lay down His life and take it again. (John 10:17)
He is the resurrection and the life. (John 11:25)
Are Jesus words true or not?

Jhn 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
Jhn 2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
Jhn 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

Jhn 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again

Jhn 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

[JehovahsWitness]

Jesus had said to raise His body (temple) in three days. (John 2:19-21)

Jesus was not refering to his own resurrection (Jesus literal body was not resurrected ) but to the "church" , the body of Christian believers which would replace the old temple.

EPHESIANS 1:22b, 23

...made him [Jesus] head over all things with regard to the congregation, which is his body, ...

1 CORINTHIANS 12:27

Now you are Christ’s body, and each of you individually is a member

1 CORINTHIANS 3:16, 17 compare 1 PETER 2:5

Do you not know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that the spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him; for the temple of God is holy, and you are that temple.

1 PETER 2:5

 you yourselves as living stones are being built up into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, in order to offer up spiritual sacrifices+ acceptable to God through Jesus Christ

[Capbook]

Jesus had said to raise His body (temple) in three days. (John 2:19-21)

Jesus was not refering to his own resurrection (Jesus literal body was not resurrected ) but to the "church" , the body of Christian believers which would replace the old temple.

1 CORINTHIANS 3:16, 17 compare 1 PETER 2:5

Do you consider Jesus words not true?
Did the Church exist in three days after that verse?
Where shall we start the counting of the three days then?

Jhn 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

[JehovahsWitness]

Do you consider Jesus words not true?

Jesus words are true, I cant say the same about your interetation of them. See post #26 for the proper understanding. Feel free to use your bible to explain why you feel post #26 is inaccurate if that is your position.

[Capbook]

Do you consider Jesus words not true?

Jesus words are true, I cant say the same about your interetation of them.

If your interpretation is true, where shall we start the counting of the three days that Jesus would raise the Church?

[JehovahsWitness]

Do you consider Jesus words not true?

Jesus words are true, I cant say the same about your interetation of them.

If your interpretation is true, where shall we start the counting of the three days that Jesus would raise the Church?

From his death of course, since Jesus is the head of the (new) temple /body. ( compare Matthew 28:19, 20)

EPHESIANS 1:22b, 23

...made him [Jesus] head over all things with regard to the congregation, which is his body, ...