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Why aren't they calling him out?

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Trump makes myriad ludicrous claims which are demonstrably false. Media pundits self-righteously crow about the falsehood of his statements, but why is that as far as they go?

When he claims that many professors at his old business college praise his economic plan, the media's response should be, "Name them."

When he suggests that English professors call his "Weave" the most brilliant thing they've ever seen, the media's response should be, "Name them."

His supporters are called stupid for accepting his claims without evidence, but if those calling them that would openly challenge him to present evidence when he can't and let his supporters see that he can't, it would be more effective than just stating that his claims are false.

Why aren't those behind the microphone doing so?
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Athetotheist wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:03 pm Trump makes myriad ludicrous claims which are demonstrably false. Media pundits self-righteously crow about the falsehood of his statements, but why is that as far as they go?

When he claims that many professors at his old business college praise his economic plan, the media's response should be, "Name them."

When he suggests that English professors call his "Weave" the most brilliant thing they've ever seen, the media's response should be, "Name them."

His supporters are called stupid for accepting his claims without evidence, but if those calling them that would openly challenge him to present evidence when he can't and let his supporters see that he can't, it would be more effective than just stating that his claims are false.

Why aren't those behind the microphone doing so?
You must not listen to NPR.

In any case, just like with religion, people don't care about the truth. Offer false promises about a glorious future and people are gullible enough to believe anything. Offer false hope and control the world. Nothing complicated about it.

Read "Animal Farm" for more details.


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[Replying to Tcg in post #2
You must not listen to NPR.

In any case, just like with religion, people don't care about the truth. Offer false promises about a glorious future and people are gullible enough to believe anything. Offer false hope and control the world. Nothing complicated about it.

Read "Animal Farm" for more details.
I have read Animal Farm, and I stopped listening to NPR when I realized what a corporate sellout it is.

But this isn't about just luring in the masses. This is about a media industry which states flat-out that Trump is lying but doesn't do its job to follow through by challenging the lies in a way which would make the masses think. What's the hangup? Incompetence? Does Corporate tell them to go easy on him?
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Athetotheist wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:25 am [Replying to Tcg in post #2
You must not listen to NPR.

In any case, just like with religion, people don't care about the truth. Offer false promises about a glorious future and people are gullible enough to believe anything. Offer false hope and control the world. Nothing complicated about it.

Read "Animal Farm" for more details.
I have read Animal Farm, and I stopped listening to NPR when I realized what a corporate sellout it is.

But this isn't about just luring in the masses. This is about a media industry which states flat-out that Trump is lying but doesn't do its job to follow through by challenging the lies in a way which would make the masses think. What's the hangup? Incompetence? Does Corporate tell them to go easy on him?
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He did say he would build the wall and then he never did it. I don't care whether it's right or wrong. He got votes the first time because he made promises to people who wanted to put the brakes on unchecked immigration. Then he broke them. There should be consequences for that.

As to the reason, it's because we have a duopoly. The one-party doesn't think it should keep promises, and you all won't vote for alternatives so it doesn't have to.

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Purple Knight wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:17 pm He did say he would build the wall and then he never did it. I don't care whether it's right or wrong. He got votes the first time because he made promises to people who wanted to put the brakes on unchecked immigration. Then he broke them. There should be consequences for that.
What rational person really believes that he's going to put huge tariffs on Canada and Mexico if they don't solve our immigration and drug problems for us? Who really thinks he's going to deport even a majority of undocumented workers? These would have dire economic consequences. The first would raise prices higher than the COVID rebound did. And the second would drop GDP by enough to trigger a recession.
As to the reason, it's because we have a duopoly. The one-party doesn't think it should keep promises, and you all won't vote for alternatives so it doesn't have to.
Why not consider the Libertarians next time?

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The Barbarian wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 9:44 pmWhy not consider the Libertarians next time?
I vote Third Party every time. But never for Libertarians. They believe blackmail and slander are okay, and love scams as long as you swindle by wordplay and nobody punches anybody.

But good for you for voting for something other than the uniparty.

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[Replying to The Barbarian in post #6]
What rational person really believes that he's going to put huge tariffs on Canada and Mexico if they don't solve our immigration and drug problems for us?
You have to remember that he himself isn't rational.

Why not consider the Libertarians next time?
The problem with considering the Libertarians, or anyone else, in presidential races is that the two major parties have a stranglehold on the electoral college. First we have to get rid of that.
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Athetotheist wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:20 pm [Replying to The Barbarian in post #6]
The problem with considering the Libertarians, or anyone else, in presidential races is that the two major parties have a stranglehold on the electoral college. First we have to get rid of that.
You know how that happens? More people vote for other parties. You can help.

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The Barbarian wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 10:33 amYou know how that happens? More people vote for other parties. You can help.
The thing people don't understand is that unless you're in a swing state, your vote is "wasted" anyway. Trump is NOT going to win California, ever. So if you think this whole meta-analysis and "wasted" vote garbage is valid and you live in California just vote for whoever you want.

Especially if you like Trump.

Arguably a Democrat is keeping California solid blue and that has protective benefits for their side, but someone who likes Trump but likes Kennedy even 5% more, but lives in California, really ought to vote for Kennedy. You are doing ZERO for Trump by voting for him in California. Zero. Maybe less than zero because if he starts losing votes to similar alternatives, he might actually have to adopt their policies and in so doing, become a better choice.

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