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Is the Lord's Sabbath in the OT still for God's people in the NT?

Luk 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment

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onewithhim wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 8:21 pmIt seems to be that a "day" does not have to mean a 24 hour period.
No it doesn't! Repeatedly a day is defined as an evening and a morning:

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. (Genesis 1:5)

Clearly, a day is 24 hours.

Genesis 2:4 does not show that a "day" is just an unspecified time period:
"This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day the Jehovah God made earth and heaven." (Genesis 2:4) See the American Standard Version or Young's Literal Translation.
"In the day" means "when".

These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, Genesis 2:4) King James Version

These [are] births of the heavens and of the earth in their being prepared, in the day of Jehovah God's making earth and heavens; ( Young's Literal Translation)

These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven. (American Standard Version)

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Again, what does any of this have to do with the Sabbath? Rule #4 - "Stay on the topic of debate. If a topic brings up another issue, start another thread."

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rstrats wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:43 am Again, what does any of this have to do with the Sabbath? Rule #4 - "Stay on the topic of debate. If a topic brings up another issue, start another thread."
The Sabbath is calculated as the seventh day. Determining when the Sabbath occurs seems to be topical in a discussion of the Sabbath.

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myth-one.com wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:04 am

The Sabbath is calculated as the seventh day. Determining when the Sabbath occurs seems to be topical in a discussion of the Sabbath.
The OP is only asking: "Is the Lord's Sabbath in the OT still for God's people in the NT?". Any discussion of issues outside of that should be addressed in a new topic.

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rstrats wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:26 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:04 am

The Sabbath is calculated as the seventh day. Determining when the Sabbath occurs seems to be topical in a discussion of the Sabbath.
The OP is only asking: "Is the Lord's Sabbath in the OT still for God's people in the NT?". Any discussion of issues outside of that should be addressed in a new topic.
Yes, Sabbath still for God's people in the NT. A weekly Sabbath in memorial to creation, a 24hour a day interpretation.

Heb 4:9 There remains, therefore, a Sabbath rest for the people of God.

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Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:52 pm
The OP is only asking: "Is the Lord's Sabbath in the OT still for God's people in the NT?". Any discussion of issues outside of that should be addressed in a new topic.
Yes, Sabbath still for God's people in the NT. A weekly Sabbath in memorial to creation, a 24hour a day interpretation.

Heb 4:9 There remains, therefore, a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
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Or as the “The Holy Bible from the Ancient Eastern Text.” has it: “It is therefore the duty of the people of God to keep the Sabbath.”

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rstrats wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:51 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:52 pm
The OP is only asking: "Is the Lord's Sabbath in the OT still for God's people in the NT?". Any discussion of issues outside of that should be addressed in a new topic.
Yes, Sabbath still for God's people in the NT. A weekly Sabbath in memorial to creation, a 24hour a day interpretation.

Heb 4:9 There remains, therefore, a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
Or as the “The Holy Bible from the Ancient Eastern Text.” has it: “It is therefore the duty of the people of God to keep the Sabbath.”
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Yes, Greek "sabbatismos" in Heb 4:9 means "a Sabbath keeping" for the people of God.

σαββατισμός sabbatismos
Thayer Definition:
1) a keeping sabbath
2) the blessed rest from toils and troubles looked for in the age to come by the true worshippers of God and true Christians.

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Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:50 pm
rstrats wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:51 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:52 pm
The OP is only asking: "Is the Lord's Sabbath in the OT still for God's people in the NT?". Any discussion of issues outside of that should be addressed in a new topic.
Yes, Sabbath still for God's people in the NT. A weekly Sabbath in memorial to creation, a 24hour a day interpretation.

Heb 4:9 There remains, therefore, a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
Or as the “The Holy Bible from the Ancient Eastern Text.” has it: “It is therefore the duty of the people of God to keep the Sabbath.”
Yes, Greek "sabbatismos" in Heb 4:9 means "a Sabbath keeping" for the people of God.

σαββατισμός sabbatismos
Thayer Definition:
1) a keeping sabbath
2) the blessed rest from toils and troubles looked for in the age to come by the true worshippers of God and true Christians.
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For as even in new heaven and new earth, all flesh come to worship the LORD.

Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD

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Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 5:17 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:50 pm
rstrats wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:51 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:52 pm
The OP is only asking: "Is the Lord's Sabbath in the OT still for God's people in the NT?". Any discussion of issues outside of that should be addressed in a new topic.
Yes, Sabbath still for God's people in the NT. A weekly Sabbath in memorial to creation, a 24hour a day interpretation.

Heb 4:9 There remains, therefore, a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
Or as the “The Holy Bible from the Ancient Eastern Text.” has it: “It is therefore the duty of the people of God to keep the Sabbath.”
Yes, Greek "sabbatismos" in Heb 4:9 means "a Sabbath keeping" for the people of God.

σαββατισμός sabbatismos
Thayer Definition:
1) a keeping sabbath
2) the blessed rest from toils and troubles looked for in the age to come by the true worshippers of God and true Christians.
For as even in new heaven and new earth, all flesh come to worship the LORD.

Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD
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As it is the Sabbath of our Lord God, and it is in memorial to creation.

Exo 20:10  But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God:
Exo 20:11  For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

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Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 9:46 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 5:17 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:50 pm
rstrats wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:51 pm
Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:52 pm
The OP is only asking: "Is the Lord's Sabbath in the OT still for God's people in the NT?". Any discussion of issues outside of that should be addressed in a new topic.
Yes, Sabbath still for God's people in the NT. A weekly Sabbath in memorial to creation, a 24hour a day interpretation.

Heb 4:9 There remains, therefore, a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
Or as the “The Holy Bible from the Ancient Eastern Text.” has it: “It is therefore the duty of the people of God to keep the Sabbath.”
Yes, Greek "sabbatismos" in Heb 4:9 means "a Sabbath keeping" for the people of God.

σαββατισμός sabbatismos
Thayer Definition:
1) a keeping sabbath
2) the blessed rest from toils and troubles looked for in the age to come by the true worshippers of God and true Christians.
For as even in new heaven and new earth, all flesh come to worship the LORD.

Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD
As it is the Sabbath of our Lord God, and it is in memorial to creation.

Exo 20:10  But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God:
Exo 20:11  For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
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ONEWITHHIM RESPONDS:
There is no scriptural evidence that Christians in Jesus' day, after his death and resurrection, observed the Sabbath. Can you present some? Perhaps I missed that evidence.

When Jesus fulfilled the Mosaic Law, Christians were not obligated to follow that set of laws. "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us [the Law], which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross." (Colossians 2:14, KJV) Brackets mine.

"In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old [obsolete]. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away." (Hebrews 8:13, KJV)

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