GEHENNA, a place of fiery torture?

[onewithhim]

Jesus warned his disciples against suffering the judgment of Gehenna. Was he referring to a burning hell of everlasting torture? (Matthew 5:22)

The Greek word Ge'en na corresponds to the Hebrew geh veneh-Hin nom,---Valley of the sons of Hinnom. It became a garbage dump for Jerusalem, serving as an incinerator where fires were kept burning to dispose of rubbish, and anything thrown into this dump would be completely destroyed, turned into ashes.

Many Bible translators haven rendered Ge' en na as "hell." (Matthew 5:22, KJV) Why is this? (Since Gehenna and hell are two different things.) Because they associated the pagan-inspired notion of an afterlife of fiery judgment for the wicked with the physical fire in the valley outside Jerusalem. Jesus, though, did not associate Gehenna with torture. He knew that the thought of burning people alive is repugnant to Jehovah. He referred to the use made of Gehenna in the days of the prophet Jeremiah. God said: "They have built the high places of Topheth which is in the valley of the sons of Hinnom in order to burn their sons and daughters in the fire, a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart." Burning people was not something that God can countenance, and He can't to this day. A good point is that the idea of torture for the dead conflicts with God's loving personality as well as with the Bible's clear teaching that "the dead are conscious of nothing." (Ecclesiastes 9:5,10)

Jesus used the term "Gehenna" to symbolize the utter destruction that would come from God's judgment on the wicked. So...."Gehenna" means, similarly, the lake of fire in Revelation. Both symbolize eternal destruction from which there is no resurrection. (Luke 12:4,5; Revelation 20:14,15.

Doesn't this sound more merciful than people being tortured in a never-ending fire? The fire symbolizes complete annihilation, just like what the fires in Gehenna did to trash and bodies of criminals.

[myth-one.com]

If the Devil, or any angel, was created immortal, the Bible did not reveal that to us.

And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: (Genesis 3:22)

Adam & Eve were separated from the Garden of Eden to prevent them from eating of the Tree of Life and gaining immortality like God and the other angels present at the time.

I suppose it depends on how one defines immortality.
I understand a person having immortality as one who cannot die. How do you define it?

That's correct. Immortal means incapable of dying.

While God has life within himself, and is not dependent on anything to sustain him, god is immortal, and cannot die.

God is immortal because He is a spirit.

On the other hand, God granting someone everlasting life, does not mean that one becomes immortal.

Sure it does!

They do not have life within themselves.

Having life within themselves (whatever that is) was not part of your definition of immortal.

Rather, it reveals to us at 1 Timothy 6:15, 16, that God alone is immortal.

No, that verse is regarding Jesus.

Jesus is the only human to qualify as an heir to everlasting life under the Old Testament covenant between God and the nation of Israel. Under that covenant, one had to be free of sin to inherit everlasting life, and Jesus was the only one to accomplish that feat. Therefore, Jesus alone had immortality as an inheritance under that covenant!

The context does suggest this refers to Jesus, but I don't see where you got "as an inheritance under covenant".

The Bible defines two covenants (or testaments or wills) between God and mankind. The first was actually only between God and the nation of Israel. The reward for qualifying heirs under either will was everlasting life (immortality).

Under the first will one had to not have any sin imputed against them to become an heir unto everlasting life. But there was a fault in that will in that every man ever born had sinned, thus the will produced no heirs. How to fix the "fault"? What to do?

The solution was for the Word (God) to be made flesh as the Jewish man Jesus Christ. Jesus then lived a sinless life under the original covenant, becoming the only human to become an heir to everlasting life under that covenant. Speaking of Jesus, Timothy confirms that Jesus is the only heir to everlasting life under the original will by describing Jesus as "Who only hath immortality" (1 Timothy 6:16).

God then allows Jesus to freely share His inheritance under the original will to those who accept Him as their Savior from the wages of their sins under a new and better covenant -- which was expanded to cover Jews and Gentiles. Thus, everlasting life became a gift of God through Jesus Christ under the New Testament Covenant.

However, we agree that Jesus is the first heir, and there are heirs to the promise, who join him.

Correct.

These also will have immortality.

They will have an inheritance of everlasting life awaiting them when the New Testament Covenant is probated. (at the Second Coming)

We know the Bible is true, don't we.

We know the scriptures are true.

No one beside God was immortal.

That's nowhere in the scriptures nor any Bibles to my knowledge.

I am surprised to hear you say that.

Multiple immortals were present at the re-creation of the earth in Genesis:

And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: (Genesis 3:22)

Other immortal angels are mentioned in the Bible. So God is not the only immortal being.

Having the gift of everlasting life, is not the same as being granted immortality.

God cannot lie. So believers in Jesus are guaranteed that they will become immortal.

Everlasting life is conditional, as the scriptures show, that disobedience disqualifies one from that gift.

But once the gift is received it's a done deal! It can never be rescinded.

Those granted everlasting life, can die.

How so? If something can die, then it was never immortal by definition!

One thousand years under Christ rein, will not save one from death, if they rebel against God.

Human believers will become immortal by being born again of the Spirit (God the Father) as a spiritual bodied being. That which born of the spirit is spirit.

After that birth, that spirit can never die. Take the devil as an example. He will be restrained in the lake of fire eternally because punishments for sinning spiritual bodied beings can never be death, as they cannot die.

[onewithhim]

If the Devil, or any angel, was created immortal, the Bible did not reveal that to us.

And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: (Genesis 3:22)

Adam & Eve were separated from the Garden of Eden to prevent them from eating of the Tree of Life and gaining immortality like God and the other angels present at the time.

I suppose it depends on how one defines immortality.
I understand a person having immortality as one who cannot die. How do you define it?

That's correct. Immortal means incapable of dying.

While God has life within himself, and is not dependent on anything to sustain him, god is immortal, and cannot die.

God is immortal because He is a spirit.

On the other hand, God granting someone everlasting life, does not mean that one becomes immortal.

Sure it does!

They do not have life within themselves.

Having life within themselves (whatever that is) was not part of your definition of immortal.

Rather, it reveals to us at 1 Timothy 6:15, 16, that God alone is immortal.

No, that verse is regarding Jesus.

Jesus is the only human to qualify as an heir to everlasting life under the Old Testament covenant between God and the nation of Israel. Under that covenant, one had to be free of sin to inherit everlasting life, and Jesus was the only one to accomplish that feat. Therefore, Jesus alone had immortality as an inheritance under that covenant!

The context does suggest this refers to Jesus, but I don't see where you got "as an inheritance under covenant".

The Bible defines two covenants (or testaments or wills) between God and mankind. The first was actually only between God and the nation of Israel. The reward for qualifying heirs under either will was everlasting life (immortality).

Under the first will one had to not have any sin imputed against them to become an heir unto everlasting life. But there was a fault in that will in that every man ever born had sinned, thus the will produced no heirs. How to fix the "fault"? What to do?

The solution was for the Word (God) to be made flesh as the Jewish man Jesus Christ. Jesus then lived a sinless life under the original covenant, becoming the only human to become an heir to everlasting life under that covenant. Speaking of Jesus, Timothy confirms that Jesus is the only heir to everlasting life under the original will by describing Jesus as "Who only hath immortality" (1 Timothy 6:16).

God then allows Jesus to freely share His inheritance under the original will to those who accept Him as their Savior from the wages of their sins under a new and better covenant -- which was expanded to cover Jews and Gentiles. Thus, everlasting life became a gift of God through Jesus Christ under the New Testament Covenant.

However, we agree that Jesus is the first heir, and there are heirs to the promise, who join him.

Correct.

These also will have immortality.

They will have an inheritance of everlasting life awaiting them when the New Testament Covenant is probated. (at the Second Coming)

We know the Bible is true, don't we.

We know the scriptures are true.

No one beside God was immortal.

That's nowhere in the scriptures nor any Bibles to my knowledge.

I am surprised to hear you say that.

Multiple immortals were present at the re-creation of the earth in Genesis:

And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: (Genesis 3:22)

Other immortal angels are mentioned in the Bible. So God is not the only immortal being.

Having the gift of everlasting life, is not the same as being granted immortality.

God cannot lie. So believers in Jesus are guaranteed that they will become immortal.

Everlasting life is conditional, as the scriptures show, that disobedience disqualifies one from that gift.

But once the gift is received it's a done deal! It can never be rescinded.

Those granted everlasting life, can die.

How so? If something can die, then it was never immortal by definition!

One thousand years under Christ rein, will not save one from death, if they rebel against God.

Human believers will become immortal by being born again of the Spirit (God the Father) as a spiritual bodied being. That which born of the spirit is spirit.

After that birth, that spirit can never die. Take the devil as an example. He will be restrained in the lake of fire eternally because punishments for sinning spiritual bodied beings can never be death, as they cannot die.

You assign immortality to beings that were not created that way. When Paul wrote to Timothy there were only two Persons who had immortality---God and Jesus. That's it. You are right, if something can die they were never immortal. The Devil was not created immortal and neither were the other angels and even man. Being able to live forever does not mean someone is immortal. We'll always be able to die, but we won't as long as we are true to our God, Jehovah. The Devil can certainly die, and this he will do at the end of the Millennial Reign of Christ, as symbolized by the lake of fire.

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You assign immortality to beings that were not created that way. When Paul wrote to Timothy there were only two Persons who had immortality---God and Jesus. That's it. You are right, if something can die they were never immortal. The Devil was not created immortal and neither were the other angels and even man. Being able to live forever does not mean someone is immortal. We'll always be able to die, but we won't as long as we are true to our God, Jehovah. The Devil can certainly die, and this he will do at the end of the Millennial Reign of Christ, as symbolized by the lake of fire.

There are two type of bodies, natural and spiritual:

. . . There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. (1 Corinthians 15:44)

Natural can also be described as physical, earthly, or terrestrial. And Spiritual bodies can also be described as godly, heavenly, or celestial.

Each of the two body types defined in the Bible, natural and spiritual, require a separate and distinct type of birth:

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit (God) is spirit. (John 3:6)

Do you accept the Bible's statement that there are two type of bodies and that both require a unique type of birth? Yes or no?

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Let's then compare mankind to God and the angels.

There were originally two differences between mankind and God and the angels. Those differences were knowledge of good and evil, and body type.

Upon eating from the tree of knowledge, mankind became closer to God and the angels by being able to distinguish good from evil.

The only remaining difference between man and God and the angels now is body type. Man has a natural body and God and the angels have spiritual bodies.

Do you accept that the only difference between the angels and man is body type? Yes or no?

Awaiting your reply.

Thanks

[onewithhim]

You assign immortality to beings that were not created that way. When Paul wrote to Timothy there were only two Persons who had immortality---God and Jesus. That's it. You are right, if something can die they were never immortal. The Devil was not created immortal and neither were the other angels and even man. Being able to live forever does not mean someone is immortal. We'll always be able to die, but we won't as long as we are true to our God, Jehovah. The Devil can certainly die, and this he will do at the end of the Millennial Reign of Christ, as symbolized by the lake of fire.

There are two type of bodies, natural and spiritual:

. . . There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. (1 Corinthians 15:44)

Natural can also be described as physical, earthly, or terrestrial. And Spiritual bodies can also be described as godly, heavenly, or celestial.

Each of the two body types defined in the Bible, natural and spiritual, require a separate and distinct type of birth:

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit (God) is spirit. (John 3:6)

Do you accept the Bible's statement that there are two type of bodies and that both require a unique type of birth? Yes or no?

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Let's then compare mankind to God and the angels.

There were originally two differences between mankind and God and the angels. Those differences were knowledge of good and evil, and body type.

Upon eating from the tree of knowledge, mankind became closer to God and the angels by being able to distinguish good from evil.

The only remaining difference between man and God and the angels now is body type. Man has a natural body and God and the angels have spiritual bodies.

Do you accept that the only difference between the angels and man is body type? Yes or no?

Awaiting your reply.

Thanks

When God created Adam He didn't keep the knowledge of good and bad from him. Adam was instructed every day "in the breezy part of the day" by Jehovah. God didn't keep anything from Adam. Satan convinced Eve that God DID keep something from them, and she was fooled into disobeying God. If you say that God was keeping something good and necessary from the first people, you are following in Satan's footsteps.

I wouldn't say that the only difference between man and the angels is body type. The angels have access to God personally, being able to actually see Him. Man can never do that (with the exception of the 144,000 anointed people who will reign with Christ in heaven). The rest of mankind will not see God with their eyes. The angels have access to the vast heavens and dwell in "unapproachable light" as Jesus does. (I Timothy 6:16) Mankind does not.

[myth-one.com]

You assign immortality to beings that were not created that way. When Paul wrote to Timothy there were only two Persons who had immortality---God and Jesus. That's it. You are right, if something can die they were never immortal. The Devil was not created immortal and neither were the other angels and even man. Being able to live forever does not mean someone is immortal. We'll always be able to die, but we won't as long as we are true to our God, Jehovah. The Devil can certainly die, and this he will do at the end of the Millennial Reign of Christ, as symbolized by the lake of fire.

There are two type of bodies, natural and spiritual:

. . . There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. (1 Corinthians 15:44)

Natural can also be described as physical, earthly, or terrestrial. And Spiritual bodies can also be described as godly, heavenly, or celestial.

Each of the two body types defined in the Bible, natural and spiritual, require a separate and distinct type of birth:

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit (God) is spirit. (John 3:6)

Do you accept the Bible's statement that there are two type of bodies and that both require a unique type of birth? Yes or no?

<====================================================>

Let's then compare mankind to God and the angels.

There were originally two differences between mankind and God and the angels. Those differences were knowledge of good and evil, and body type.

Upon eating from the tree of knowledge, mankind became closer to God and the angels by being able to distinguish good from evil.

The only remaining difference between man and God and the angels now is body type. Man has a natural body and God and the angels have spiritual bodies.

Do you accept that the only difference between the angels and man is body type? Yes or no?

Awaiting your reply.

Thanks

When God created Adam He didn't keep the knowledge of good and bad from him.

Man became aware of good and evil by eating from the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil. Prior to that they had only one sin which they could commit. That sin was to eat from the Tree of Knowledge. Upon eating from the Tree of Knowledge, they knew good and evil. So God kept the knowledge of good and evil from Adam & Eve initially.

And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: (Genesis 3:22)

I wouldn't say that the only difference between man and the angels is body type.

The one thing that flesh and blood humans must do to inherit the spiritual Kingdom of God is to be born of the Spirit as a spirit.

Speaking of humans who shall inherit the Kingdom of God, Luke writes:

Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. (Luke 20:36)

What other thing (or things) must one do to inherit the Kingdom of God in addition to being born again of the Spirit.

[onewithhim]

You assign immortality to beings that were not created that way. When Paul wrote to Timothy there were only two Persons who had immortality---God and Jesus. That's it. You are right, if something can die they were never immortal. The Devil was not created immortal and neither were the other angels and even man. Being able to live forever does not mean someone is immortal. We'll always be able to die, but we won't as long as we are true to our God, Jehovah. The Devil can certainly die, and this he will do at the end of the Millennial Reign of Christ, as symbolized by the lake of fire.

There are two type of bodies, natural and spiritual:

. . . There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. (1 Corinthians 15:44)

Natural can also be described as physical, earthly, or terrestrial. And Spiritual bodies can also be described as godly, heavenly, or celestial.

Each of the two body types defined in the Bible, natural and spiritual, require a separate and distinct type of birth:

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit (God) is spirit. (John 3:6)

Do you accept the Bible's statement that there are two type of bodies and that both require a unique type of birth? Yes or no?

<====================================================>

Let's then compare mankind to God and the angels.

There were originally two differences between mankind and God and the angels. Those differences were knowledge of good and evil, and body type.

Upon eating from the tree of knowledge, mankind became closer to God and the angels by being able to distinguish good from evil.

The only remaining difference between man and God and the angels now is body type. Man has a natural body and God and the angels have spiritual bodies.

Do you accept that the only difference between the angels and man is body type? Yes or no?

Awaiting your reply.

Thanks

When God created Adam He didn't keep the knowledge of good and bad from him.

Man became aware of good and evil by eating from the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil. Prior to that they had only one sin which they could commit. That sin was to eat from the Tree of Knowledge. Upon eating from the Tree of Knowledge, they knew good and evil. So God kept the knowledge of good and evil from Adam & Eve initially.

And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: (Genesis 3:22)

I wouldn't say that the only difference between man and the angels is body type.

The one thing that flesh and blood humans must do to inherit the spiritual Kingdom of God is to be born of the Spirit as a spirit.

Speaking of humans who shall inherit the Kingdom of God, Luke writes:

Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. (Luke 20:36)

What other thing (or things) must one do to inherit the Kingdom of God in addition to being born again of the Spirit.

Man knew the difference between good and evil before eating of the tree. Why else would they be condemned? If they didn't know any better God would not have condemned them. To eat from the forbidden tree meant that they would willfully decide for themselves what was good and evil, thus giving God the proverbial finger. To keep from eating of the one tree they would show God their love and appreciation for Him. That whole thing was to give them the opportunity to continue to show their devotion and obedience. The letter to Timothy said that Adam wasn't fooled by Satan, so he KNEW what was wrong. (I Timothy 2:14)

The humans who are like the angels are those who will reign with Christ in heaven. They will have been anointed by the Spirit to rule and live in the spirit realm. There is nothing they can do to ensure their place in heaven. They aren't any better than any believer. They are just chosen by God to be born again of the Spirit. There is a relatively small number who will rule with Christ. The majority of believers will remain on the earth in Paradise conditions forever, never having to die again as long as they remain faithful. We can't even imagine the wonderful future that we have right here on this beautiful planet.

[John17_3]

If the Devil, or any angel, was created immortal, the Bible did not reveal that to us.

And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: (Genesis 3:22)

Adam & Eve were separated from the Garden of Eden to prevent them from eating of the Tree of Life and gaining immortality like God and the other angels present at the time.

I suppose it depends on how one defines immortality.
I understand a person having immortality as one who cannot die. How do you define it?

That's correct. Immortal means incapable of dying.

While God has life within himself, and is not dependent on anything to sustain him, god is immortal, and cannot die.

God is immortal because He is a spirit.

I have never read this in the Bible, and I am sure you have not either, so while this is your personal opinion. it would not serve to be useful at this time.

On the other hand, God granting someone everlasting life, does not mean that one becomes immortal.

Sure it does!

This opinion also would not be useful, but why may I ask, do you feel the need to state these opinions as if they are actually factual, when no where in the Bible can we find any support for them?

They do not have life within themselves.

Having life within themselves (whatever that is) was not part of your definition of immortal.

It is the explanation the Bible provides.

Rather, it reveals to us at 1 Timothy 6:15, 16, that God alone is immortal.

No, that verse is regarding Jesus.

Jesus is the only human to qualify as an heir to everlasting life under the Old Testament covenant between God and the nation of Israel. Under that covenant, one had to be free of sin to inherit everlasting life, and Jesus was the only one to accomplish that feat. Therefore, Jesus alone had immortality as an inheritance under that covenant!

The context does suggest this refers to Jesus, but I don't see where you got "as an inheritance under covenant".

The Bible defines two covenants (or testaments or wills) between God and mankind. The first was actually only between God and the nation of Israel. The reward for qualifying heirs under either will was everlasting life (immortality).

Under the first will one had to not have any sin imputed against them to become an heir unto everlasting life. But there was a fault in that will in that every man ever born had sinned, thus the will produced no heirs. How to fix the "fault"? What to do?

The solution was for the Word (God) to be made flesh as the Jewish man Jesus Christ. Jesus then lived a sinless life under the original covenant, becoming the only human to become an heir to everlasting life under that covenant. Speaking of Jesus, Timothy confirms that Jesus is the only heir to everlasting life under the original will by describing Jesus as "Who only hath immortality" (1 Timothy 6:16).

God then allows Jesus to freely share His inheritance under the original will to those who accept Him as their Savior from the wages of their sins under a new and better covenant -- which was expanded to cover Jews and Gentiles. Thus, everlasting life became a gift of God through Jesus Christ under the New Testament Covenant.

However, we agree that Jesus is the first heir, and there are heirs to the promise, who join him.

Correct.

These also will have immortality.

They will have an inheritance of everlasting life awaiting them when the New Testament Covenant is probated. (at the Second Coming)

We know the Bible is true, don't we.

We know the scriptures are true.

No one beside God was immortal.

That's nowhere in the scriptures nor any Bibles to my knowledge.

Which of the scriptures I referenced, do you not find refers to God being immortal?

I am surprised to hear you say that.

Multiple immortals were present at the re-creation of the earth in Genesis:

Where in scripture did you find that?

And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: (Genesis 3:22)

Other immortal angels are mentioned in the Bible. So God is not the only immortal being.

I have never read any scripture supporting that idea.
Can you share one, please?

Having the gift of everlasting life, is not the same as being granted immortality.

God cannot lie. So believers in Jesus are guaranteed that they will become immortal.

If immortal means cannot die, then that would not have applied to Adam, since everlasting can also be an indefinite period, and Adam was not promised immortality. Only the saints were promised immortality, which is a spirit body - incorruptible. 1 Corinthians 15:42-57

Everlasting life is conditional, as the scriptures show, that disobedience disqualifies one from that gift.

But once the gift is received it's a done deal! It can never be rescinded.

This is not what the scriptures say, At what point does a person have this everlasting life? Is it not under Christ's millennial reign?
Yet, the Bible tells us that a person living then, who disobeys God, will die. Revelation 20:7-9; Isaiah 65:20

Those granted everlasting life, can die.

How so? If something can die, then it was never immortal by definition!

Exactly.
Everlasting life is not immortality. Everlasting life is conditional.

Consider an illustration.
A device that requires no battery, or any source of power, to "live", will function "forever" (since it is man-made, 'forever', is relative in this example)
A device that requires a battery, or power source, will function "forever" (since it is man-made, 'forever', is relative in this example), only as long as the battery is connected, and functioning, or the power source is connected, and functioning.

An immortal person, is granted life within themselves from God, which means they do not need a life sustaining source. They are that source. John 5:26
A person granted everlasting life, depends on a source of life, in order to keep on living. God supplies that life. The person cannot function if that source is cut off.

One thousand years under Christ rein, will not save one from death, if they rebel against God.

Human believers will become immortal by being born again of the Spirit (God the Father) as a spiritual bodied being. That which born of the spirit is spirit.

That life refers to heavenly life, does it not? It does not refer to the life of those living under Christ rule, and those who will live beyond, who make up the new earth. Revelation 21:3-5

After that birth, that spirit can never die. Take the devil as an example. He will be restrained in the lake of fire eternally because punishments for sinning spiritual bodied beings can never be death, as they cannot die.

The spirits in heaven are not immortal. No scriptures say that.
Those given immortality are Christ, and the heirs of the kingdom - the Saints.

The Devil is an angel, and does not have immortality.
The Bible says this:
The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. Romans 16:20
And I will put enmity between you [Satan] and the woman, and between your seed and her seed. He will crush your [Satan's] head, and you will strike his heel.” Genesis 3:15
Inasmuch then as the children have partaken of flesh and blood, He Himself likewise shared in the same, that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, Hebrews 2:14

Are you saying the Lake of fire does not symbolize the second death?
Does the wild beast symbolize the political world powers?
Please explain why you accept that the wild beast is symbolic, and not the lake of fire.
Also, please explain how the political world powers are tormented in the lake of fire.

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God is immortal because He is a spirit.

I have never read this in the Bible, and I am sure you have not either, so while this is your personal opinion. it would not serve to be useful at this time.

John 4:24

God is a Spirit:

[John17_3]

God is immortal because He is a spirit.

I have never read this in the Bible, and I am sure you have not either, so while this is your personal opinion. it would not serve to be useful at this time.

John 4:24

God is a Spirit:

Your claim was,
God is immortal because He is a spirit.

The scripture at John 4:24 reads,
For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.”

The scriptures do not say God is immortal because he is a spirit.
I am asking you to support that statement with scripture.

You made that claim in order to claim that spirits are immortal, didn't you?
Well, no scriptures supports that.

[myth-one.com]

God is immortal because He is a spirit.

I have never read this in the Bible, and I am sure you have not either, so while this is your personal opinion. it would not serve to be useful at this time.

John 4:24

God is a Spirit:

Your claim was,
God is immortal because He is a spirit.

The scripture at John 4:24 reads,
For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.”

The scriptures do not say God is immortal because he is a spirit.
I am asking you to support that statement with scripture.

You made that claim in order to claim that spirits are immortal, didn't you?
Well, no scriptures supports that.

Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden of Eden to prevent them from eating of the Tree of Life and living forever like God and the angels:

Genesis 3:

22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.