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Christians think the meek inherit the earth but in truth the meek shall inherit the land.

Christians misunderstand scripture!

If you wish to inherit the land you must be freed by the son and walk in the law of the LORD.

The land is not the earth either.

Do you or have you ever walked in the law of the LORD?

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Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:18 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:24 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 4:48 am
onewithhim wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 6:44 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:13 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 5:24 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:12 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2024 6:15 am [Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #18]

Where in the Bible that says that? The verse doesn't even say it is symbolic.
No verse has to say it is symbolic. The whole book of Revelation is mainly symbolic, wouldn't you agree?
Some are symbolic and some are literal.
As about earth lexicon define it below; And "Human society" is not one of them

NT:1093 gee, earth
1. arable land: Matt 13:5,8,23
2. the ground, the earth as a standing-place Matt 10:29
3. the main land, opposed to sea or water: Mark 4:1
4. the earth as a whole, the world
a. the earth as opposed to the heavens: Matt 5:18,35
b. the inhabited earth, the abode of men and animals: Luke 21:35
5. a country, land enclosed within fixed boundaries, a tract of land, territory, region; Luke 4:25
(from Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database. Copyright © 2000, 2003, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)
The Scripture says plainly that the righteous will inherit the earth/land and live on it forever. How else do you understand these verses?

"For evildoers will be cut off but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth....The meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace....The righteous shall inherit the land and dwell therein forever." (Psalm 37:9,11,29, KJV)

Your own examples say that "land" and "earth" are the same thing, and people will be living on the earth forever. And you said that "human society" is not one of the definitions of "earth?" Your own listing says that "the inhabited earth is the abode of men and animals." So the Bible does mention a human society living on the earth forever. (See your 1b.)
Any comment Capbook?
Human society refers to as group of people, while earth inhabitants refers to all people or human and etc.
So does "human society" refer to earth's inhabitants. Human society = earth's inhabitants.
Human society refers to a group of people who share a common lifestyle and organization.
While earth's inhabitant refers to all inhabitants not just a small or big group.
And human society is never a lexicon definition of earth.
Human society merely refers to human beings on the earth. It need not mean that they share a common lifestyle or organization. It is the SAME as the "earth's inhabitants." Did you look at you "1b" on your list?

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onewithhim wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:40 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:18 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:24 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 4:48 am
onewithhim wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 6:44 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:13 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 5:24 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:12 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2024 6:15 am [Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #18]

Where in the Bible that says that? The verse doesn't even say it is symbolic.
No verse has to say it is symbolic. The whole book of Revelation is mainly symbolic, wouldn't you agree?
Some are symbolic and some are literal.
As about earth lexicon define it below; And "Human society" is not one of them

NT:1093 gee, earth
1. arable land: Matt 13:5,8,23
2. the ground, the earth as a standing-place Matt 10:29
3. the main land, opposed to sea or water: Mark 4:1
4. the earth as a whole, the world
a. the earth as opposed to the heavens: Matt 5:18,35
b. the inhabited earth, the abode of men and animals: Luke 21:35
5. a country, land enclosed within fixed boundaries, a tract of land, territory, region; Luke 4:25
(from Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database. Copyright © 2000, 2003, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)
The Scripture says plainly that the righteous will inherit the earth/land and live on it forever. How else do you understand these verses?

"For evildoers will be cut off but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth....The meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace....The righteous shall inherit the land and dwell therein forever." (Psalm 37:9,11,29, KJV)

Your own examples say that "land" and "earth" are the same thing, and people will be living on the earth forever. And you said that "human society" is not one of the definitions of "earth?" Your own listing says that "the inhabited earth is the abode of men and animals." So the Bible does mention a human society living on the earth forever. (See your 1b.)
Any comment Capbook?
Human society refers to as group of people, while earth inhabitants refers to all people or human and etc.
So does "human society" refer to earth's inhabitants. Human society = earth's inhabitants.
Human society refers to a group of people who share a common lifestyle and organization.
While earth's inhabitant refers to all inhabitants not just a small or big group.
And human society is never a lexicon definition of earth.
Human society merely refers to human beings on the earth. It need not mean that they share a common lifestyle or organization. It is the SAME as the "earth's inhabitants." Did you look at you "1b" on your list?
See definition and link below that define human society.
And besides land inhabitants is not confined to group of people or all people as there also plants, animals, some fowls, etc.

A society, or human society, is a group of individuals linked by long-term relationships or a large society that shares the same geographical or social territory and is often dominated by the same political authority and cultural norms.
https://ivypanda.com/essays/human-socie ... structure/

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onewithhim wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:40 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:18 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:24 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 4:48 am
onewithhim wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 6:44 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:13 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 5:24 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:12 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2024 6:15 am [Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #18]

Where in the Bible that says that? The verse doesn't even say it is symbolic.
No verse has to say it is symbolic. The whole book of Revelation is mainly symbolic, wouldn't you agree?
Some are symbolic and some are literal.
As about earth lexicon define it below; And "Human society" is not one of them

NT:1093 gee, earth
1. arable land: Matt 13:5,8,23
2. the ground, the earth as a standing-place Matt 10:29
3. the main land, opposed to sea or water: Mark 4:1
4. the earth as a whole, the world
a. the earth as opposed to the heavens: Matt 5:18,35
b. the inhabited earth, the abode of men and animals: Luke 21:35
5. a country, land enclosed within fixed boundaries, a tract of land, territory, region; Luke 4:25
(from Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database. Copyright © 2000, 2003, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)
The Scripture says plainly that the righteous will inherit the earth/land and live on it forever. How else do you understand these verses?

"For evildoers will be cut off but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth....The meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace....The righteous shall inherit the land and dwell therein forever." (Psalm 37:9,11,29, KJV)

Your own examples say that "land" and "earth" are the same thing, and people will be living on the earth forever. And you said that "human society" is not one of the definitions of "earth?" Your own listing says that "the inhabited earth is the abode of men and animals." So the Bible does mention a human society living on the earth forever. (See your 1b.)
Any comment Capbook?
Human society refers to as group of people, while earth inhabitants refers to all people or human and etc.
So does "human society" refer to earth's inhabitants. Human society = earth's inhabitants.
Human society refers to a group of people who share a common lifestyle and organization.
While earth's inhabitant refers to all inhabitants not just a small or big group.
And human society is never a lexicon definition of earth.
Human society merely refers to human beings on the earth. It need not mean that they share a common lifestyle or organization. It is the SAME as the "earth's inhabitants." Did you look at you "1b" on your list?
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onewithhim wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:07 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:40 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:18 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:24 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 4:48 am
onewithhim wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 6:44 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:13 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 5:24 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:12 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Jul 20, 2024 6:15 am [Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #18]

Where in the Bible that says that? The verse doesn't even say it is symbolic.
No verse has to say it is symbolic. The whole book of Revelation is mainly symbolic, wouldn't you agree?
Some are symbolic and some are literal.
As about earth lexicon define it below; And "Human society" is not one of them

NT:1093 gee, earth
1. arable land: Matt 13:5,8,23
2. the ground, the earth as a standing-place Matt 10:29
3. the main land, opposed to sea or water: Mark 4:1
4. the earth as a whole, the world
a. the earth as opposed to the heavens: Matt 5:18,35
b. the inhabited earth, the abode of men and animals: Luke 21:35
5. a country, land enclosed within fixed boundaries, a tract of land, territory, region; Luke 4:25
(from Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database. Copyright © 2000, 2003, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)
The Scripture says plainly that the righteous will inherit the earth/land and live on it forever. How else do you understand these verses?

"For evildoers will be cut off but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth....The meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace....The righteous shall inherit the land and dwell therein forever." (Psalm 37:9,11,29, KJV)

Your own examples say that "land" and "earth" are the same thing, and people will be living on the earth forever. And you said that "human society" is not one of the definitions of "earth?" Your own listing says that "the inhabited earth is the abode of men and animals." So the Bible does mention a human society living on the earth forever. (See your 1b.)
Any comment Capbook?
Human society refers to as group of people, while earth inhabitants refers to all people or human and etc.
So does "human society" refer to earth's inhabitants. Human society = earth's inhabitants.
Human society refers to a group of people who share a common lifestyle and organization.
While earth's inhabitant refers to all inhabitants not just a small or big group.
And human society is never a lexicon definition of earth.
Human society merely refers to human beings on the earth. It need not mean that they share a common lifestyle or organization. It is the SAME as the "earth's inhabitants." Did you look at you "1b" on your list?
.
You equate land inhabitants to human society.
Does human society includes animals, some fowls and etc.?

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Capbook wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:47 am
Metonym explained as substitute for something.
Not exactly, let's read the dictionary definition again...

METONYMY

: a figure of speech consisting of the use of the name of one thing for that of another [thing] of which it is an attribute or with which it is associated...
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/metonymy
  • What is the name we give to the things that live on this planet?
  • What is the name we give to the planet itself ?
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


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JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:24 am
Capbook wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:47 am
Metonym explained as substitute for something.
Not exactly, let's read the dictionary definition again...

METONYMY

: a figure of speech consisting of the use of the name of one thing for that of another [thing] of which it is an attribute or with which it is associated...
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/metonymy
  • What is the name we give to the things that live on this planet?
  • What is the name we give to the planet itself ?
You say things, (plural) to be specific, people, animals, some fowls, insects, amoeba, fungi, many many more.
Earth.

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  • What is the name we give to the things that live on this planet?
Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:05 am You say things, (plural) to be specific, people, animals, some fowls, insects, amoeba, fungi, many many more.
  • What is the name we give to the planet itself ?
Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:05 am Earth.

Okay, thank you.

1. Can we group "people, animals, some fowls, insects, amoeba, fungi, many many more." under the name "land dwellers"?




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METONYMY

: a figure of speech consisting of the use of the name of one thing for that of another [thing] of which it is an attribute or with which it is associated...
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/metonymy
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


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Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:22 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:07 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:40 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:18 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:24 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 4:48 am
onewithhim wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 6:44 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:13 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 5:24 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:12 am
No verse has to say it is symbolic. The whole book of Revelation is mainly symbolic, wouldn't you agree?
Some are symbolic and some are literal.
As about earth lexicon define it below; And "Human society" is not one of them

NT:1093 gee, earth
1. arable land: Matt 13:5,8,23
2. the ground, the earth as a standing-place Matt 10:29
3. the main land, opposed to sea or water: Mark 4:1
4. the earth as a whole, the world
a. the earth as opposed to the heavens: Matt 5:18,35
b. the inhabited earth, the abode of men and animals: Luke 21:35
5. a country, land enclosed within fixed boundaries, a tract of land, territory, region; Luke 4:25
(from Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database. Copyright © 2000, 2003, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)
The Scripture says plainly that the righteous will inherit the earth/land and live on it forever. How else do you understand these verses?

"For evildoers will be cut off but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth....The meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace....The righteous shall inherit the land and dwell therein forever." (Psalm 37:9,11,29, KJV)

Your own examples say that "land" and "earth" are the same thing, and people will be living on the earth forever. And you said that "human society" is not one of the definitions of "earth?" Your own listing says that "the inhabited earth is the abode of men and animals." So the Bible does mention a human society living on the earth forever. (See your 1b.)
Any comment Capbook?
Human society refers to as group of people, while earth inhabitants refers to all people or human and etc.
So does "human society" refer to earth's inhabitants. Human society = earth's inhabitants.
Human society refers to a group of people who share a common lifestyle and organization.
While earth's inhabitant refers to all inhabitants not just a small or big group.
And human society is never a lexicon definition of earth.
Human society merely refers to human beings on the earth. It need not mean that they share a common lifestyle or organization. It is the SAME as the "earth's inhabitants." Did you look at you "1b" on your list?
.
You equate land inhabitants to human society.
Does human society includes animals, some fowls and etc.?
Of course not. Let's be reasonable here.

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Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:05 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:24 am
Capbook wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 6:47 am
Metonym explained as substitute for something.
Not exactly, let's read the dictionary definition again...

METONYMY

: a figure of speech consisting of the use of the name of one thing for that of another [thing] of which it is an attribute or with which it is associated...
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/metonymy
  • What is the name we give to the things that live on this planet?
  • What is the name we give to the planet itself ?
You say things, (plural) to be specific, people, animals, some fowls, insects, amoeba, fungi, many many more.
Earth.
Earth = human society (See Genesis 11:1.)

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onewithhim wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:39 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:22 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:07 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 12:40 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:18 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:24 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 21, 2024 4:48 am
onewithhim wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 6:44 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:13 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 5:24 am

Some are symbolic and some are literal.
As about earth lexicon define it below; And "Human society" is not one of them

NT:1093 gee, earth
1. arable land: Matt 13:5,8,23
2. the ground, the earth as a standing-place Matt 10:29
3. the main land, opposed to sea or water: Mark 4:1
4. the earth as a whole, the world
a. the earth as opposed to the heavens: Matt 5:18,35
b. the inhabited earth, the abode of men and animals: Luke 21:35
5. a country, land enclosed within fixed boundaries, a tract of land, territory, region; Luke 4:25
(from Thayer's Greek Lexicon, Electronic Database. Copyright © 2000, 2003, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)
The Scripture says plainly that the righteous will inherit the earth/land and live on it forever. How else do you understand these verses?

"For evildoers will be cut off but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth....The meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace....The righteous shall inherit the land and dwell therein forever." (Psalm 37:9,11,29, KJV)

Your own examples say that "land" and "earth" are the same thing, and people will be living on the earth forever. And you said that "human society" is not one of the definitions of "earth?" Your own listing says that "the inhabited earth is the abode of men and animals." So the Bible does mention a human society living on the earth forever. (See your 1b.)
Any comment Capbook?
Human society refers to as group of people, while earth inhabitants refers to all people or human and etc.
So does "human society" refer to earth's inhabitants. Human society = earth's inhabitants.
Human society refers to a group of people who share a common lifestyle and organization.
While earth's inhabitant refers to all inhabitants not just a small or big group.
And human society is never a lexicon definition of earth.
Human society merely refers to human beings on the earth. It need not mean that they share a common lifestyle or organization. It is the SAME as the "earth's inhabitants." Did you look at you "1b" on your list?
.
You equate land inhabitants to human society.
Does human society includes animals, some fowls and etc.?
Of course not. Let's be reasonable here.
Yes, only in land inhabitants that include animals, etc. and not human society.
Now we see the difference between the two.
And land inhabitants is one of the lexicon definition of earth that includes animals, etc.

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