The Definition of God

[Delphi]

God is often defined as having various extraordinary characteristics. Infinitely loving, all powerful, omniscient, the creator of the Universe, etc.

How can we know that this is indeed true? How can we verify such grandiose assertions? No greater claims could possibly be made!

Normally, we make definitions based on verifiable evidence and observation. For example, we define a giraffe as being a large four-legged grazing mammal with a long neck, hooves, a mouth, a tongue, teeth, and two eyes. We can rationally define a giraffe this way based on verifiable observation. We define a giraffe by going out and finding a giraffe, then defining it based on its attributes.

Yet somehow, God is defined in the opposite manner. We do not go out and find god and define it based on its attributes. Instead, we apply god's characteristics to him without ever observing god. Definitions seem to fabricated out of imagination. I find this extremely dubious.

It seems to me that we are applying these definitions to the concept of a god. We cannot verify nor falsify these attributes.

What is going on here?

[Capbook]

[Replying to Capbook in post #242]

The red letters in the KJV were decided on by men, and they already had the view that Jesus was God. Their work shows a bias in translating. Hebrews 1:8,9 applies to the Father, Jehovah as does Revelation 1:8. We can be sure of this because it is Jehovah's thoughts and words that are being transmitted to the Apostle John through Jesus. (See verse 1:1 in Revelation: "A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him..." It's all the Father's words to John through Jesus. So the Father says, "I am the Alpha and the Omega...the Almighty" in verse 8.) Those are His words to Jesus to give to John.

You did no answer my question.
Who does the "God" I colored red refers to?

Heb 1:8-9
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
KJV

It refers to Jehovah, the only true God. (John 17:3)

The "God" I colored red (v.9), as to you refers to Jehovah?
Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God the Father"?

Yes.

What an evasion.
Then who is the speaker in that verse?

[onewithhim]

[Replying to Capbook in post #242]

The red letters in the KJV were decided on by men, and they already had the view that Jesus was God. Their work shows a bias in translating. Hebrews 1:8,9 applies to the Father, Jehovah as does Revelation 1:8. We can be sure of this because it is Jehovah's thoughts and words that are being transmitted to the Apostle John through Jesus. (See verse 1:1 in Revelation: "A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him..." It's all the Father's words to John through Jesus. So the Father says, "I am the Alpha and the Omega...the Almighty" in verse 8.) Those are His words to Jesus to give to John.

You did no answer my question.
Who does the "God" I colored red refers to?

Heb 1:8-9
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
KJV

It refers to Jehovah, the only true God. (John 17:3)

The "God" I colored red (v.9), as to you refers to Jehovah?
Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God the Father"?

Yes.

What an evasion.
Then who is the speaker in that verse?

How am I evading anything??
The writer of Hebrews (most likely Paul) was quoting from Psalm 45:6,7. It seems to be from the sons of Korah. Check it out in a Jewish Bible.

[Capbook]

[Replying to Capbook in post #242]

The red letters in the KJV were decided on by men, and they already had the view that Jesus was God. Their work shows a bias in translating. Hebrews 1:8,9 applies to the Father, Jehovah as does Revelation 1:8. We can be sure of this because it is Jehovah's thoughts and words that are being transmitted to the Apostle John through Jesus. (See verse 1:1 in Revelation: "A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him..." It's all the Father's words to John through Jesus. So the Father says, "I am the Alpha and the Omega...the Almighty" in verse 8.) Those are His words to Jesus to give to John.

You did no answer my question.
Who does the "God" I colored red refers to?

Heb 1:8-9
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
KJV

It refers to Jehovah, the only true God. (John 17:3)

The "God" I colored red (v.9), as to you refers to Jehovah?
Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God the Father"?

Yes.

What an evasion.
Then who is the speaker in that verse?

How am I evading anything??
The writer of Hebrews (most likely Paul) was quoting from Psalm 45:6,7. It seems to be from the sons of Korah. Check it out in a Jewish Bible.

You said yes to this verse construction below per your interpretation. Does it sound good understanding to you?

Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God?

[onewithhim]

[Replying to Capbook in post #242]

The red letters in the KJV were decided on by men, and they already had the view that Jesus was God. Their work shows a bias in translating. Hebrews 1:8,9 applies to the Father, Jehovah as does Revelation 1:8. We can be sure of this because it is Jehovah's thoughts and words that are being transmitted to the Apostle John through Jesus. (See verse 1:1 in Revelation: "A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him..." It's all the Father's words to John through Jesus. So the Father says, "I am the Alpha and the Omega...the Almighty" in verse 8.) Those are His words to Jesus to give to John.

You did no answer my question.
Who does the "God" I colored red refers to?

Heb 1:8-9
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
KJV

It refers to Jehovah, the only true God. (John 17:3)

The "God" I colored red (v.9), as to you refers to Jehovah?
Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God the Father"?

Yes.

What an evasion.
Then who is the speaker in that verse?

How am I evading anything??
The writer of Hebrews (most likely Paul) was quoting from Psalm 45:6,7. It seems to be from the sons of Korah. Check it out in a Jewish Bible.

You said yes to this verse construction below per your interpretation. Does it sound good understanding to you?

Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God?

YES. (How am I evading anything?)

[Capbook]

[Replying to Capbook in post #242]

The red letters in the KJV were decided on by men, and they already had the view that Jesus was God. Their work shows a bias in translating. Hebrews 1:8,9 applies to the Father, Jehovah as does Revelation 1:8. We can be sure of this because it is Jehovah's thoughts and words that are being transmitted to the Apostle John through Jesus. (See verse 1:1 in Revelation: "A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him..." It's all the Father's words to John through Jesus. So the Father says, "I am the Alpha and the Omega...the Almighty" in verse 8.) Those are His words to Jesus to give to John.

You did no answer my question.
Who does the "God" I colored red refers to?

Heb 1:8-9
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
KJV

It refers to Jehovah, the only true God. (John 17:3)

The "God" I colored red (v.9), as to you refers to Jehovah?
Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God the Father"?

Yes.

What an evasion.
Then who is the speaker in that verse?

How am I evading anything??
The writer of Hebrews (most likely Paul) was quoting from Psalm 45:6,7. It seems to be from the sons of Korah. Check it out in a Jewish Bible.

You said yes to this verse construction below per your interpretation. Does it sound good understanding to you?

Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God?

YES. (How am I evading anything?)

So, the Father have a God, to you?

[onewithhim]

[Replying to Capbook in post #242]

The red letters in the KJV were decided on by men, and they already had the view that Jesus was God. Their work shows a bias in translating. Hebrews 1:8,9 applies to the Father, Jehovah as does Revelation 1:8. We can be sure of this because it is Jehovah's thoughts and words that are being transmitted to the Apostle John through Jesus. (See verse 1:1 in Revelation: "A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him..." It's all the Father's words to John through Jesus. So the Father says, "I am the Alpha and the Omega...the Almighty" in verse 8.) Those are His words to Jesus to give to John.

You did no answer my question.
Who does the "God" I colored red refers to?

Heb 1:8-9
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
KJV

It refers to Jehovah, the only true God. (John 17:3)

The "God" I colored red (v.9), as to you refers to Jehovah?
Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God the Father"?

Yes.

What an evasion.
Then who is the speaker in that verse?

How am I evading anything??
The writer of Hebrews (most likely Paul) was quoting from Psalm 45:6,7. It seems to be from the sons of Korah. Check it out in a Jewish Bible.

You said yes to this verse construction below per your interpretation. Does it sound good understanding to you?

Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God?

YES. (How am I evading anything?)

So, the Father have a God, to you?

No, it's just Jesus.

[Capbook]

You did no answer my question.
Who does the "God" I colored red refers to?

Heb 1:8-9
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
KJV

It refers to Jehovah, the only true God. (John 17:3)

The "God" I colored red (v.9), as to you refers to Jehovah?
Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God the Father"?

Yes.

What an evasion.
Then who is the speaker in that verse?

How am I evading anything??
The writer of Hebrews (most likely Paul) was quoting from Psalm 45:6,7. It seems to be from the sons of Korah. Check it out in a Jewish Bible.

You said yes to this verse construction below per your interpretation. Does it sound good understanding to you?

Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God?

YES. (How am I evading anything?)

So, the Father have a God, to you?

No, it's just Jesus.

Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God?
That statement above that you accept as correct. Is "therefore God the Father" is Jesus to you?

[onewithhim]

It refers to Jehovah, the only true God. (John 17:3)

The "God" I colored red (v.9), as to you refers to Jehovah?
Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God the Father"?

Yes.

What an evasion.
Then who is the speaker in that verse?

How am I evading anything??
The writer of Hebrews (most likely Paul) was quoting from Psalm 45:6,7. It seems to be from the sons of Korah. Check it out in a Jewish Bible.

You said yes to this verse construction below per your interpretation. Does it sound good understanding to you?

Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God?

YES. (How am I evading anything?)

So, the Father have a God, to you?

No, it's just Jesus.

Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God?
That statement above that you accept as correct. Is "therefore God the Father" is Jesus to you?

It does not say that! I would accept the verse as "therefore God the Father, even thy God." That shows that Jesus has a God.

[Capbook]

The "God" I colored red (v.9), as to you refers to Jehovah?
Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God the Father"?

Yes.

What an evasion.
Then who is the speaker in that verse?

How am I evading anything??
The writer of Hebrews (most likely Paul) was quoting from Psalm 45:6,7. It seems to be from the sons of Korah. Check it out in a Jewish Bible.

You said yes to this verse construction below per your interpretation. Does it sound good understanding to you?

Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God?

YES. (How am I evading anything?)

So, the Father have a God, to you?

No, it's just Jesus.

Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God?
That statement above that you accept as correct. Is "therefore God the Father" is Jesus to you?

It does not say that! I would accept the verse as "therefore God the Father, even thy God." That shows that Jesus has a God.

God has a God? Can the words colored red below said it?

Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

[onewithhim]

Yes.

What an evasion.
Then who is the speaker in that verse?

How am I evading anything??
The writer of Hebrews (most likely Paul) was quoting from Psalm 45:6,7. It seems to be from the sons of Korah. Check it out in a Jewish Bible.

You said yes to this verse construction below per your interpretation. Does it sound good understanding to you?

Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God?

YES. (How am I evading anything?)

So, the Father have a God, to you?

No, it's just Jesus.

Would you accept the verse would be, "therefore God the Father, even thy God?
That statement above that you accept as correct. Is "therefore God the Father" is Jesus to you?

It does not say that! I would accept the verse as "therefore God the Father, even thy God." That shows that Jesus has a God.

God has a God? Can the words colored red below said it?

Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Yes, Jesus has a God. Therefore he could not be God.