No man has seen God at any time

[Stewardofthemystery]

It is written in John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.”

And Jesus said in John 14:6-7
King James Version
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.”

So if no man has seen God at any time, how do we reconcile what seems to be a contradiction? When you understand the identity of the Son of God being the very Word of God, then you will understand there is no contradiction.

It is the Word OF God that was made flesh in the man Jesus. And it is BY God’s Word and words that we get to know and see what God the Father is really like, His likes and dislikes. It is by God’s Word and words we get to see and know the will of God the Father.

In this way, by looking at the words and actions of Jesus Christ we get to see and know what The invisible God is really like.

We don’t see the outward image of God in Christ, but rather we see the inward image of God in Jesus Christ, as God was in Christ.

Colossians 1:15
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

When you understand this mystery then there is a harmony to the text without contradiction.

Peace and God bless

[onewithhim]

[Replying to Capbook in post #77]

No, Jesus is saying to the Father that the Father is the true God. Jesus said "YOU are the one true God." Was Jesus talking to himself? I think it's clear that he was addressing the Father, Jehovah.

You did not answer my question colored blue,

Twice Jesus testified about God as the true God. Grammatical exegesis, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God?"

The Father.

[Capbook]

[Replying to Capbook in post #77]

No, Jesus is saying to the Father that the Father is the true God. Jesus said "YOU are the one true God." Was Jesus talking to himself? I think it's clear that he was addressing the Father, Jehovah.

You did not answer my question colored blue,

Twice Jesus testified about God as the true God. Grammatical exegesis, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God?"

The Father.

I believe you missed to see the verse. Please find it below;

Now, twice Jesus testified about God as the true God. Grammatical exegesis, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God?"

1 John 5:20
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
KJV

[onewithhim]

[Replying to Capbook in post #77]

No, Jesus is saying to the Father that the Father is the true God. Jesus said "YOU are the one true God." Was Jesus talking to himself? I think it's clear that he was addressing the Father, Jehovah.

You did not answer my question colored blue,

Twice Jesus testified about God as the true God. Grammatical exegesis, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God?"

The Father.

I believe you missed to see the verse. Please find it below;

Now, twice Jesus testified about God as the true God. Grammatical exegesis, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God?"

1 John 5:20
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
KJV

I have explained this before but you don't consider my posts. The true God is the "him" and the "his" in the verse. Who are those pronouns referring to? "HIS Son Jesus Christ." Whoever "his" refers to is the true God and eternal life.

[Capbook]

[Replying to Capbook in post #77]

No, Jesus is saying to the Father that the Father is the true God. Jesus said "YOU are the one true God." Was Jesus talking to himself? I think it's clear that he was addressing the Father, Jehovah.

You did not answer my question colored blue,

Twice Jesus testified about God as the true God. Grammatical exegesis, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God?"

The Father.

I believe you missed to see the verse. Please find it below;

Now, twice Jesus testified about God as the true God. Grammatical exegesis, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God?"

1 John 5:20
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
KJV

I have explained this before but you don't consider my posts. The true God is the "him" and the "his" in the verse. Who are those pronouns referring to? "HIS Son Jesus Christ." Whoever "his" refers to is the true God and eternal life.

Yes, I did not argue that it's the Father referred to "him and his". But I'd like to point out base on grammatical construction, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase, "This is the true God" in the verse?

[onewithhim]

[Replying to Capbook in post #77]

No, Jesus is saying to the Father that the Father is the true God. Jesus said "YOU are the one true God." Was Jesus talking to himself? I think it's clear that he was addressing the Father, Jehovah.

You did not answer my question colored blue,

Twice Jesus testified about God as the true God. Grammatical exegesis, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God?"

The Father.

I believe you missed to see the verse. Please find it below;

Now, twice Jesus testified about God as the true God. Grammatical exegesis, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God?"

1 John 5:20
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
KJV

I have explained this before but you don't consider my posts. The true God is the "him" and the "his" in the verse. Who are those pronouns referring to? "HIS Son Jesus Christ." Whoever "his" refers to is the true God and eternal life.

Yes, I did not argue that it's the Father referred to "him and his". But I'd like to point out base on grammatical construction, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase, "This is the true God" in the verse?

The Bible doesn't always go in order. For example, Genesis 1 shows a general overview of the creation, and Genesis 2 goes into detail. The two chapters are out of order, but we understand them to be perfectly sensible. Jesus is not the true God. It is the Person who is referred to as "him" and "his."

[Capbook]

[Replying to Capbook in post #77]

No, Jesus is saying to the Father that the Father is the true God. Jesus said "YOU are the one true God." Was Jesus talking to himself? I think it's clear that he was addressing the Father, Jehovah.

You did not answer my question colored blue,

Twice Jesus testified about God as the true God. Grammatical exegesis, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God?"

The Father.

I believe you missed to see the verse. Please find it below;

Now, twice Jesus testified about God as the true God. Grammatical exegesis, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God?"

1 John 5:20
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
KJV

I have explained this before but you don't consider my posts. The true God is the "him" and the "his" in the verse. Who are those pronouns referring to? "HIS Son Jesus Christ." Whoever "his" refers to is the true God and eternal life.

Yes, I did not argue that it's the Father referred to "him and his". But I'd like to point out base on grammatical construction, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase, "This is the true God" in the verse?

The Bible doesn't always go in order. For example, Genesis 1 shows a general overview of the creation, and Genesis 2 goes into detail. The two chapters are out of order, but we understand them to be perfectly sensible. Jesus is not the true God. It is the Person who is referred to as "him" and "his."

We are not talking about Chapters, I confine my arguments on one verse only.
Base on grammatical construction, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase, "This is the true God" in the verse?

[Tcg]

The Bible doesn't always go in order. For example, Genesis 1 shows a general overview of the creation, and Genesis 2 goes into detail.

Nope. Genesis 1:1 - 2:3 is the creation story of Elohim. Genesis 2:4 - 22 is the creation story of Yahweh Elohim. The order is irrelevant. The editors consider both stories important, so they included both even though they are contradictory tales.


Tcg

[onewithhim]

[Replying to Capbook in post #77]

No, Jesus is saying to the Father that the Father is the true God. Jesus said "YOU are the one true God." Was Jesus talking to himself? I think it's clear that he was addressing the Father, Jehovah.

You did not answer my question colored blue,

Twice Jesus testified about God as the true God. Grammatical exegesis, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God?"

The Father.

I believe you missed to see the verse. Please find it below;

Now, twice Jesus testified about God as the true God. Grammatical exegesis, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God?"

1 John 5:20
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
KJV

I have explained this before but you don't consider my posts. The true God is the "him" and the "his" in the verse. Who are those pronouns referring to? "HIS Son Jesus Christ." Whoever "his" refers to is the true God and eternal life.

Yes, I did not argue that it's the Father referred to "him and his". But I'd like to point out base on grammatical construction, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase, "This is the true God" in the verse?

The Bible doesn't always go in order. For example, Genesis 1 shows a general overview of the creation, and Genesis 2 goes into detail. The two chapters are out of order, but we understand them to be perfectly sensible. Jesus is not the true God. It is the Person who is referred to as "him" and "his."

We are not talking about Chapters, I confine my arguments on one verse only.
Base on grammatical construction, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase, "This is the true God" in the verse?

It would be the person referred to with "him" or "his." (And you can't confine your arguments to one verse only. We must look at the Scriptures as a whole.) Also, the grammatical construction of Greek is different than that of English.

[onewithhim]

The Bible doesn't always go in order. For example, Genesis 1 shows a general overview of the creation, and Genesis 2 goes into detail.

Nope. Genesis 1:1 - 2:3 is the creation story of Elohim. Genesis 2:4 - 22 is the creation story of Yahweh Elohim. The order is irrelevant. The editors consider both stories important, so they included both even though they are contradictory tales.


Tcg

Nothing you said there conflicts with what I said.

[Capbook]

[Replying to Capbook in post #77]

No, Jesus is saying to the Father that the Father is the true God. Jesus said "YOU are the one true God." Was Jesus talking to himself? I think it's clear that he was addressing the Father, Jehovah.

You did not answer my question colored blue,

Twice Jesus testified about God as the true God. Grammatical exegesis, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God?"

The Father.

I believe you missed to see the verse. Please find it below;

Now, twice Jesus testified about God as the true God. Grammatical exegesis, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase "This is the true God?"

1 John 5:20
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
KJV

I have explained this before but you don't consider my posts. The true God is the "him" and the "his" in the verse. Who are those pronouns referring to? "HIS Son Jesus Christ." Whoever "his" refers to is the true God and eternal life.

Yes, I did not argue that it's the Father referred to "him and his". But I'd like to point out base on grammatical construction, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase, "This is the true God" in the verse?

The Bible doesn't always go in order. For example, Genesis 1 shows a general overview of the creation, and Genesis 2 goes into detail. The two chapters are out of order, but we understand them to be perfectly sensible. Jesus is not the true God. It is the Person who is referred to as "him" and "his."

We are not talking about Chapters, I confine my arguments on one verse only.
Base on grammatical construction, who is the nearest antecedent of the phrase, "This is the true God" in the verse?

It would be the person referred to with "him" or "his." (And you can't confine your arguments to one verse only. We must look at the Scriptures as a whole.) Also, the grammatical construction of Greek is different than that of English.

No, English sentence construction is following the Greek construction. See the nearest antecedent of the phrase "this is the true God" in the Greek still is Jesus Christ.
And who also do you think gives eternal life? (John 11:25,26)

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1Jn 5:20 οἴδαμεν δὲ ὅτι ὁ υἱὸς τοῦ Θεοῦ ἥκει καὶ δέδωκεν ἡμῖν διάνοιαν ἵνα γινώσκωμεν τὸν ἀληθινόν· καὶ ἐσμὲν ἐν τῷ ἀληθινῷ, ἐν τῷ υἱῷ αὐτοῦ ᾿Ιησοῦ Χριστῷ. οὗτός ἐστιν ὁ ἀληθινὸς Θεὸς καὶ ζωὴ αἰώνιος.