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Residents Of Everlasting Hell

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This Debate Has Three Dreadful Questions

Do people who do not believe in Jesus go to hell?

Do Christians who live sinful lives go to hell?

Do Christians who have incorrect beliefs go to hell?

Word Of Truth Rightly Divided: Consider the question our Lord asked the wicked, " Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? " ( Matthew 23:33 ) The world is filled with such serpents who imagine they can escape the damnation of hell. Scripture assures us they cannot, Luke 16:26, and their doom is everlasting, Matthew 25:46. Some Christians are ashamed of hell, and deem it a blemish to God's holiness, but God is "not worshipped with men's hands, as though He needed anything," Acts 17:25. Some Christians are saddened by hell, as though God were saddened by it, but this is false. "And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought," Deuteronomy 28:63. The LORD will rejoice over you regardless of your fate, be it paradise or hellfire!

Do people who do not believe in Jesus go to hell? Take Christ's warning to heart: Mark 16:16 " He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned." The wicked deny this verse; they even rid it from their Bibles, but God is not deceived; the resurrection of our Lord assures us of the authority of this admonition. Damnation is not a pronouncement with nothing to suffer; It is a castigation with everything to suffer. Consider the voice of him that cried out in the wilderness: " he that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life,and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." John 3:36. Damnation brings every ounce of God's fury with it! People who do not believe in Jesus, must suffer the wrath of God everlastingly in a frightful place " where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched," Mark 9:44. Hell's worms will squirm within them, forever mocking their misery, while the flames repeatedly lash about. Nebuchadnezzar heated his furnace sevenfold, Daniel 3:19, beyond that it could do no more, but God's wrath has no limits, It is poured out without mixture, Revelation 14:10.

Do Christians Who Live Sinful Lives Go To Hell? Many Christians fancy themselves immune from God's wrath, "but God is not mocked, whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap," Galatians 6:7. The sinful Christian may pretend God's wrath will pass over him, but "we know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not", 1 John 5:18. Do you believe in Jesus? "Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more lest a worse thing come unto thee," John 5:14. Some Christians think a prayer will hide them from God's wrath. "If any man will come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross and follow me," Matthew 16:24. Christ doesn't tread the path of iniquity, "he that saith he abideth in Him, ought himself also to walk as He walked," 1 John 2:6. Many Christians will hear the horrifying words, " depart from Me, ye that work iniquity," Matthew 7:23. Prayer without obedience is deception! "Nevertheless they did flatter Him with their mouth, and they lied to Him with their tongues. For their heart were not right with Him, neither were they steadfast in His covenant." Psalms 78:36,37.

Do Christians Who Have Incorrect Beliefs Go To Hell? There is a woeful amount of ignorant Christians who believe God will spare them His awful wrath. But what saith Scripture? "But there were false prophets also among them, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction," 2 Peter 2:1. Incorrect beliefs, no matter how trivial the Church deems them, are in fact denying the Lord! God is a jealous God, Exodus 34:14, and demands we love Him with all our hearts, souls, and minds, Matthew 22:37. God will have all of the mind or none of it. The lazy Christian who shrugs off his duty to rightly divide the word of truth, 2 Timothy 2:15, thereby embracing foolishness, will receive no grace whatsoever from the Lord. "Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father which is in heaven," Matthew 7:21. The will of the Lord, is to understand the will of the Lord, Ephesians 5:17. Paul doesn't admonish us in vain: "study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth," 2 Timothy 2:15. Like a workman we are to make it our occupation to study the Scriptures, so that we don't have to be ashamed of our ignorance and unprofitableness. This is the only way we can be approved unto God, fit for obedience and well pleasing to Him. We may have curious differences about things that pertain neither to God or godliness, but concerning the twain Christ saith " how is it that ye do not understand?" Mark 8:21.


Residents Of Everlasting Hell

Whosoever doesn't believe in Jesus will be accursed!
Whosoever calls himself a Christian, but disregards righteous conduct will be accursed!
Whosoever calls himself a Christian, but embraces ignorance of Scripture or false interpretations thereof, will be accursed!

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Re: Residents Of Everlasting Hell

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Myth-one.com wrote:

When Paul wrote to Timothy he said that Jesus was the only one who had immortality.

Jesus gained an inheritance of everlasting life by living a sinless human life under the Old Testament Covenant. He was the only human to ever do so under that testament. Under that testament, the wages of sin is death, but He never sinned, thus He is to inherit everlasting life.

Thus He alone hath immortality as an inheritance under that covenant!

Also, chew on this!! Jesus wasn't immortal at this time! He owned immortality as a future inheritance!

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. (Romans 8:16-17)

Jesus then offered His inheritance as a free gift to those humans who believe in Him as their Savior.
Onewithhim wrote:I have explained ad nauseum the difference between the ones who reign with Christ in heaven and those who will live on the earth in physical bodies.

You cannot explain how mortal physical bodies are somehow able to live forever. Perhaps your inability to do so is causing your nausea, but I'm no doctor.
onewithhim wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:03 amJesus was immortal at the time that Paul said that he was the only one.
There is no coming in and out of immortality. If Jesus died on the cross, then He was never immortal.
onewithhim wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:03 am
That doesn't change the fact that the angels were not immortal at this time. Therefore they never were, and aren't, immortal. Can you chew on that? Or it's just too complicated?
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No, I'm not going to say that God got it all wrong in the Bible. You're free to.

Why were Adam and Eve evicted from the Garden of Eden? Most people believe it was because they sinned. But that's incorrect. It was to prevent them from eating of the tree of life and becoming immortal -- LIKE GOD AND THE ANGELS:

And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. (Genesis 3:22-23)

Speaking of those who shall inherit the Kingdom of God in the world to come, Jesus states:

Neither can they die any more, for they are equal unto the angels... (Luke 20:36)

If those humans who inherit the Kingdom of God can't die any more because they are equal unto the angels, then the angels are incapable of dying anymore:

Immortal: Incapable of dying.


CONCLUSION: ANGELS ARE IMMORTAL!

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Re: Residents Of Everlasting Hell

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[Replying to myth-one.com in post #41]

No one inferred that Jesus goes "in and out of immortality." The Scripture says that "Being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. For this reason also, God highly exalted him, and bestowed on him the name which is above every name." (Phil.2:8,9, NASB) Jesus was then immortal.

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Re: Residents Of Everlasting Hell

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Peace to you,

As others have stated, the word 'hell' is derived from a few different words that have different meanings. Since you mentioned having read a few other threads on hell, is it fair to say that you understand this already?

Here is a link to another post on the various words (and meanings) being translated as 'hell':

viewtopic.php?p=1028604#p1028604

I do want to point something out from your post, though, if I may?
BrotherBerry wrote: Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:54 pm Some Christians are saddened by hell, as though God were saddened by it, but this is false. "And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought," Deuteronomy 28:63. The LORD will rejoice over you regardless of your fate, be it paradise or hellfire!
This verse is referring to Israel, and bringing Israel to nothing eventually brings Israel back to God. This is called discipline - something done out of love to bring about something good.

This verse is not AT ALL referring to God rejoicing over people who are being sent to 'hellfire.'

Something else you said in one of your posts stood out to me:
Many pseudo-Christians will wish they could vanish and cease to exist, but hell will not afford them that luxury. They will suffer horribly in hell and curse God every moment, Matthew 13:50.
Are you saying that God will have created a place for people to curse Him every moment for all eternity? This cursing of Him and His name will never stop?

Does that make sense?



Peace again to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
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