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Matt 19:16-26

16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?

26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.


This passage actually is teaching the Truth that Jesus is God ! Notice vs 17 As the young man had addressed Jesus as good, and Jesus responded accordingly, why callest thou me good, for none is good but ONE, that One Being God

Now , notice Jesus did not say, none is good but One and that is my Father, but He said that One, Being God !

Now if Jesus by this is not insinuating that He is God, then the alternative is that He was not good, seeing He just said only ONE, not Two, but ONLY ONE is good.

Now, if Jesus was not good, being that He was not the Only One Good God, then His commanding him, the young ruler, in order to be perfect, that he must go sell all his possessions, then give to the poor, and follow Him; Such an commandment exposed that the young man loved his possessions above God, which was a violation of the very first commandment, now if Jesus was not God, then the young mans refusal to obey and follow Jesus, could not be a proper standard to gauge his Love to God !

For there could not have been nothing amiss about not making such a great sacrifice as that Jesus told him, and then following Him if the One speaking was not the One God, who Only was good !

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1213 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 4:20 am
Brightfame52 wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:38 am ...

Notice in the passage its the Lord Yᵊhōvâ speaking and notice in Vs 10 they shall look upon ME Yᵊhōvâ whom they have pierced, which is no doubt Christ ! Rev 1:7

7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
So, if God died on the cross, who was the one who raised Him from death?

Could these help in understanding your scripture?

Most assuredly I tell you, he who receives whomever I send, receives me; and he who receives me, receives him who sent me."
John 13:20
Whoever listens to you listens to me, and whoever rejects you rejects me. Whoever rejects me rejects him who sent me."
Luke 10:16
..."The King will answer them, 'Most assuredly I tell you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.' Then he will say also to those on the left hand, 'Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you didn't give me food to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink; I was a stranger, and you didn't take me in; naked, and you didn't clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn't visit me.' "Then they will also answer, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and didn't help you?' "Then he will answer them, saying, 'Most assuredly I tell you, inasmuch as you didn't do it to one of the least of these, you didn't do it to me.' These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
Matt. 25:34-46
Jesus' flesh (human nature) was put to death and Jesus (God in nature) had the power to take it again.

1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
Jhn 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
Jhn 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

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Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:49 am
Jesus' flesh (human nature) was put to death and Jesus (God in nature) had the power to take it again.
I've never seen the expression "God in nature" in the bible. Which scripture is this based on?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 2:12 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:49 am
Jesus' flesh (human nature) was put to death and Jesus (God in nature) had the power to take it again.
I've never seen the expression "God in nature" in the bible. Which scripture is this based on?
Jesus has been addressed by the Father as God, Heb 1:8-9, Psa 45:6.

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Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 2:23 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 2:12 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:49 am
Jesus' flesh (human nature) was put to death and Jesus (God in nature) had the power to take it again.
I've never seen the expression "God in nature" in the bible. Which scripture is this based on?
Jesus has been addressed by the Father as God, Heb 1:8-9, Psa 45:6.
No, Jesus is told that the Father is his (Jesus') God.
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:36 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 2:23 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 2:12 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:49 am
Jesus' flesh (human nature) was put to death and Jesus (God in nature) had the power to take it again.
I've never seen the expression "God in nature" in the bible. Which scripture is this based on?
Jesus has been addressed by the Father as God, Heb 1:8-9, Psa 45:6.
No, Jesus is told that the Father is his (Jesus') God.
Psa 45:6 Jewish sources it did refer to the Jewish Messiah, addressed as God in that verse.

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Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:02 am
Psa 45:6 Jewish sources it did refer to the Jewish Messiah, addressed as God in that verse.
Yes they are right but it is saying that God is the Messiahs support (throne ), Jesus like someone might say "My husband is my rock"
My husband is my rock
God is my throne
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Brightfame52 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:06 am [Replying to 1213 in post #519]

I can only show you what scripture says but cant make you believe it. Doesn't Christ fulfill that Prophecy of being pierced or No ?
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Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:49 am ...This commandment have I received of my Father.
Is Jesus the Father?
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1213 wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 11:29 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:49 am ...This commandment have I received of my Father.
Is Jesus the Father?
No, Jesus is the second person of the Trinity.

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:39 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:02 am
Psa 45:6 Jewish sources it did refer to the Jewish Messiah, addressed as God in that verse.
Yes they are right but it is saying that God is the Messiahs support (throne ), Jesus like someone might say "My husband is my rock"
My husband is my rock
God is my throne
If it did refer to the Jewish Messiah, a person, it could be in parenthesis below;

Psa 45:6 Thy throne, O God (Messiah), is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre

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