Jesus is God - is Jesus the bridegroom?

[Wootah]

Blog post by someone: https://alexiscarucci.com/2022/05/18/je ... ridegroom/

Some relevant NT passages snipped from the blog post

Jesus referred to Himself as the bridegroom when He talked about why His disciples didn’t fast (Mark 2:18 – 20). Likewise, John, the Baptist, presented himself as the bridegroom’s friend and declared that the bride belongs to the bridegroom (John 3:29). The bride of Christ or the church consists of the entire body of believers throughout the ages, all who have received salvation by grace through faith. The New Jerusalem is also referred to as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband and alludes to Christ as the bridegroom (Revelation 21:2, 9 – 10).

Some relevant OT passages
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=NIV

For your Maker is your husband—
the Lord Almighty is his name—
the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;
he is called the God of all the earth.

I think the union between man and God that was restablished in Jesus is quite clear. When we put our faith in Jesus we are accepting that what Jesus did has united God and man. It took God to unite what man tore apart.

So, Jesus is God or is Jesus some rando that calls himself the bridegroom?

[JehovahsWitness]

1. Some titles are shared by both the Father and the Son; this does not make them equal in age , rank or authority.

2. Jesus refers to himself as "the bridegroom" (of the anointed congregation of Christians ) not "the husband" (of the nation if Israel).

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Is the church the bride of Christ?

What part of "Jesus refers to himself as "the bridegroom" (of the anointed congregation of Christians )" are you having trouble understanding?

[MissKate13]

[Replying to EBA in post #10]

You are absolutely right! It takes a stubborn heart to believe Jesus is not God. In fact Jesus said as much.

Matthew 13:15
For the hearts of these people are hardened,
and their ears cannot hear,
and they have closed their eyes—
so their eyes cannot see,
and their ears cannot hear,
and their hearts cannot understand,
and they cannot turn to me
and let me heal them.

But to you EBA, and all those who see and hear, Jesus says,

“But blessed are your eyes, because they see; and your ears, because they hear.” (Matthew 13:16)

God bless,
Kate

[EBA]

[Replying to EBA in post #10]

You are absolutely right! It takes a stubborn heart to believe Jesus is not God. In fact Jesus said as much.

Matthew 13:15
For the hearts of these people are hardened,
and their ears cannot hear,
and they have closed their eyes—
so their eyes cannot see,
and their ears cannot hear,
and their hearts cannot understand,
and they cannot turn to me
and let me heal them.

But to you EBA, and all those who see and hear, Jesus says,

“But blessed are your eyes, because they see; and your ears, because they hear.” (Matthew 13:16)

God bless,
Kate

Thank you for the reply Kate.

What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day. (Romans 11:7-8)

God Bless you.

[Wootah]

1. Some titles are shared by both the Father and the Son; this does not make them equal in age , rank or authority.

2. Jesus refers to himself as "the bridegroom" (of the anointed congregation of Christians ) not "the husband" (of the nation if Israel).

...

Is the church the bride of Christ?

What part of "Jesus refers to himself as "the bridegroom" (of the anointed congregation of Christians )" are you having trouble understanding?

Well if you agree Jesus is the bride groom and the church is the bride then I think we have proof Jesus is God? What would you counter argument be?

For your Maker is your husband—
the Lord Almighty is his name—
the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;
he is called the God of all the earth.

Our maker is our husband who is God.

[MissKate13]

[Replying to EBA in post #13]
It’s a choice EBA, and many have made the decision to reject that Jesus is God.

[EBA]

[Replying to EBA in post #13]
It’s a choice EBA, and many have made the decision to reject that Jesus is God.

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (1 John 2:22)

Peace

[onewithhim]

Blog post by someone: https://alexiscarucci.com/2022/05/18/je ... ridegroom/

Some relevant NT passages snipped from the blog post

Jesus referred to Himself as the bridegroom when He talked about why His disciples didn’t fast (Mark 2:18 – 20). Likewise, John, the Baptist, presented himself as the bridegroom’s friend and declared that the bride belongs to the bridegroom (John 3:29). The bride of Christ or the church consists of the entire body of believers throughout the ages, all who have received salvation by grace through faith. The New Jerusalem is also referred to as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband and alludes to Christ as the bridegroom (Revelation 21:2, 9 – 10).

Some relevant OT passages
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=NIV

For your Maker is your husband—
the Lord Almighty is his name—
the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;
he is called the God of all the earth.

I think the union between man and God that was restablished in Jesus is quite clear. When we put our faith in Jesus we are accepting that what Jesus did has united God and man. It took God to unite what man tore apart.

So, Jesus is God or is Jesus some rando that calls himself the bridegroom?

Jesus is the bridegroom because God has used him as the means by which we are saved, and God has given him the position to be King and also the bridegroom. (Philippians 2:9-11) Because Jesus is the reflection of God he is the bridegroom, as the Father is also called Israel's husband. (Colossians 1:15,16) An image of something is not the thing itself, but a reflection of that thing. The Father, YHWH, is a so-called "husband" and therefore Jesus, reflecting his Father, would be called the bridegroom. Jesus is not God. He is the image of God.

[JehovahsWitness]

1. Some titles are shared by both the Father and the Son; this does not make them equal in age , rank or authority.

2. Jesus refers to himself as "the bridegroom" (of the anointed congregation of Christians ) not "the husband" (of the nation if Israel).

...

Is the church the bride of Christ?

What part of "Jesus refers to himself as "the bridegroom" (of the anointed congregation of Christians )" are you having trouble understanding?

Well if you agree Jesus is the bride groom and the church is the bride then I think we have proof Jesus is God? What would you counter argument be?

For your Maker is your husband—
the Lord Almighty is his name—
the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;
he is called the God of all the earth.

Our maker is our husband who is God.

1. Some titles are shared by both the Father and the Son; this does not make them equal in age , rank or authority.

2. Jesus refers to himself as "the bridegroom" (of the anointed congregation of Christians ) not "the husband" (of the fleshly nation of Israel).
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[1213]

He is the bridegroom, the Rock, the Lord of lords, the King of kings, the Saviour and so much more that it takes a very stubborn heart for someone who believes in God not to accept that Jesus is God.

Peace.

I think more accurate translation would be redeemer, not saviour. But, in any case,

No not “in any case”, please explain why “redeemer” is a better translation than “saviour.”

Because Jesus redeemed us, and God is the savior.

Christ redeemed us...
Gal. 3:13
I, even I, am Yahweh; and besides me there is no savior.
Isa. 43:11

Jesus says there is only one true God who is greater than him. If you think Jesus is the God, why don't you believe what he says?

Why would you accuse me of not believing what he says?

Sorry, I thought you think Jesus is the God.

Also Paul says there is one God who is not the same as Jesus. But I can understand if you don't believe Paul.

Why, do you not believe Paul?

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1 Tim. 2:5

I do.

Nice, then I don't think we have any problem here.

[1213]

So, Jesus is God or is Jesus some rando that calls himself the bridegroom?

He is the bridegroom, the Rock, the Lord of lords, the King of kings, the Saviour and so much more that it takes a very stubborn heart for someone who believes in God not to accept that Jesus is God.

Peace.

I think more accurate translation would be redeemer, not saviour. But, in any case, Jesus says there is only one true God who is greater than him. If you think Jesus is the God, why don't you believe what he says?

This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
John 17:3
the Father is greater than I.
John 14:28

Also Paul says there is one God who is not the same as Jesus. But I can understand if you don't believe Paul.

For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
1 Tim. 2:5

Now you have made your usual random first post. Can you discuss the topic?

Why do you think it is random? I showed that Jesus told there is only one true God, who is greater than him. How can Jesus be called the God, if he himself teaches the opposite?