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God created all things by Jesus Christ

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This is another way to prove the identity of Jesus Christ the Son of God as being the very Word of God.

Notice…

Ephesians 3:9
And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

And here….

Hebrews 1:2
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

And here….

Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

In the above 3 verses we see that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and the Word of God are the same, by which God created all things.

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onewithhim wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 11:01 am
Stewardofthemystery wrote: Wed May 08, 2024 9:17 am God’s Word (Christ) is the power and wisdom of God by which all things were created.

1 Corinthians 1:24
But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Jeremiah 10:12
He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.

Jeremiah 51:15
He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding.

Proverbs 3:19
The Lord by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.
"The Lord" here is Jehovah, YHWH (the Tetragrammaton). Everywhere we see LORD in all capital letters, that is where the name of God, YHWH, appears in Hebrew texts throughout the Scriptures. It is Jehovah that is said to have "made the earth by his power and wisdom." Jesus, His Son, was Jehovah's means by which He made the earth and everything else. He gave His Son the power and wisdom to carry out His will.
Jesus is the Word and He is God over all.
Romans 9:5 says: Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.
NIV

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Capbook wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 5:22 am
Jesus is the Word and He is God over all.
Romans 9:5 says: Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.
NIV
Si you think Jesus is superior (over) his Father ?
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Romans 14:8

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:44 am
Capbook wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 5:22 am
Jesus is the Word and He is God over all.
Romans 9:5 says: Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.
NIV
Si you think Jesus is superior (over) his Father ?
I believe Jesus is equal with the Father.

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Capbook wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 3:02 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:44 am
Capbook wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 5:22 am
Jesus is the Word and He is God over all.
Romans 9:5 says: Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.
NIV
So you think Jesus is superior (over) his Father ?
I believe Jesus is equal with the Father.
But the verse doesnt say equal it says OVER.
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 3:05 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 3:02 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:44 am
Capbook wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 5:22 am
Jesus is the Word and He is God over all.
Romans 9:5 says: Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.
NIV
So you think Jesus is superior (over) his Father ?
I believe Jesus is equal with the Father.
But the verse doesnt say equal it says OVER.
Jesus being God I believe is equal with the Father.
Rom 9:5 The Messiah is descended from their ancestors according to his human nature. The Messiah is God over everything, forever blessed. Amen.
(from GOD'S WORD

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Capbook wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 4:01 am
Jesus being God I believe is equal with the Father.
Rom 9:5 The Messiah is descended from their ancestors according to his human nature. The Messiah is God over everything, forever blessed. Amen.
(from GOD'S WORD

Can you see the word OVER in the verse? Does the word "over" mean equal or does the word "over" mean superior ?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:33 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 4:01 am
Jesus being God I believe is equal with the Father.
Rom 9:5 The Messiah is descended from their ancestors according to his human nature. The Messiah is God over everything, forever blessed. Amen.
(from GOD'S WORD

Can you see the word OVER in the verse? Does the word "over" mean equal or does the word "over" mean superior ?
Yes, so is the Father as God over everything.

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Capbook wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:05 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:33 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 4:01 am
Jesus being God I believe is equal with the Father.
Rom 9:5 The Messiah is descended from their ancestors according to his human nature. The Messiah is God over everything, forever blessed. Amen.
(from GOD'S WORD

Can you see the word OVER in the verse? Does the word "over" mean equal or does the word "over" mean superior ?
Yes, so is the Father as God over everything.
I dont understand your response: does the word "over" mean equal or does the word over mean superior ?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 10:55 am
Capbook wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:05 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:33 am
Capbook wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 4:01 am
Jesus being God I believe is equal with the Father.
Rom 9:5 The Messiah is descended from their ancestors according to his human nature. The Messiah is God over everything, forever blessed. Amen.
(from GOD'S WORD

Can you see the word OVER in the verse? Does the word "over" mean equal or does the word "over" mean superior ?
Yes, so is the Father as God over everything.
I dont understand your response: does the word "over" mean equal or does the word over mean superior ?
To this understanding below sounds they are equal.
Romans 9:5
[Who is over all] This is an appellation that belongs only to the true God. It implies supreme divinity; and is full proof that the Messiah is divine:
(from Barnes' Notes)

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 10:55 am I dont understand your response: does the word "over" mean equal or does the word over mean superior ?
Capbook wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:09 am...
To this understanding below sounds they are equal.
Romans 9:5
Who is OVER all ...
So just to clarify you believe the word OVER in Romans 9:5 means EQUAL ?
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