SUNDAY THE SABBATH

[Eddie Ramos]

God has ordained that the Sabbath be the day of worship. In the Old Testament period, God declared the 7th day to be the Sabbath day, but when Christ rose from the dead, God ended the era of 7th day Sabbath observation which entailed physical rest and instituted the first new era of Sabbaths to take place the Sunday Christ arose. This Sunday Sabbath would now entail much spiritual work for those who have found their rest in Christ (those who believed to be saved).


So, why do some, today, still worship on the 7th day of the week and others on the 1st day of the week? And why do people blame Constantine for changing the day of worship from saturday to Sunday, when no such information of him doing so is found in the scriptures?

[myth-one.com]

God has ordained that the Sabbath be the day of worship. In the Old Testament period, God declared the 7th day to be the Sabbath day, but when Christ rose from the dead, God ended the era of 7th day Sabbath observation which entailed physical rest and instituted the first new era of Sabbaths to take place the Sunday Christ arose. This Sunday Sabbath would now entail much spiritual work for those who have found their rest in Christ (those who believed to be saved).


So, why do some, today, still worship on the 7th day of the week and others on the 1st day of the week? And why do people blame Constantine for changing the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday, when no such information of him doing so is found in the scriptures?

There is nothing in the Bible to tell us to observe the Sabbath, since Christ abolished the Law (Romans 10:4; Romans 7:6),

Here's one:

Exodus 20:8
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

It's a sin to break one of the ten commandments.

Although sin no longer controls our salvation, we should still do our best to avoid sinning.

[rstrats]

...Sunday isn't the day Christ arose.

Mark 16:9 seems to indicate that it is, if by Sunday you mean the first day of the week.

[onewithhim]

...Sunday isn't the day Christ arose.

Mark 16:9 seems to indicate that it is, if by Sunday you mean the first day of the week.

The Jews' first day of the week is different from ours. They went by the days of their calendar which is different from the calendar we use.

[rstrats]

The Jews' first day of the week is different from ours. They went by the days of their calendar which is different from the calendar we use.

Even if that's the case, what does today's calendar have to do with the one of 2000 years ago?

[Difflugia]

The Jews' first day of the week is different from ours. They went by the days of their calendar which is different from the calendar we use.

Do you have any reason to believe this is true or are you just assuming it is?

As far as we can determine, the day corresponding the Jewish Sabbath hasn't changed since the Jewish people switched to the seven-day week of the Babylonians. The early Christians (again, as far as we know) adopted the Jewish seven-day week. The Roman Empire remained on an eight-day week until it was officially adopted in the fourth century AD by Constantine, when he switched to the Christian seven-day week.

It looks like the Sabbath and corresponding first day of the week have been the same since the Jewish people adopted them. That could be as late as the Babylonian Exile or, since this is TD&D, on October 22, 4004 BC.

[rstrats]

It looks like the Sabbath and corresponding first day of the week have been the same since the Jewish people adopted them. That could be as late as the Babylonian Exile or, since this is TD&D, on October 22, 4004 BC.

No need to go back past the first century as far as this topic is concerned. I'm not aware of any documentation which shows that the continuity of the seven day weekly cycle has been interrupted at any point at least since the Messiah's time and today.

[onewithhim]

God has ordained that the Sabbath be the day of worship. In the Old Testament period, God declared the 7th day to be the Sabbath day, but when Christ rose from the dead, God ended the era of 7th day Sabbath observation which entailed physical rest and instituted the first new era of Sabbaths to take place the Sunday Christ arose. This Sunday Sabbath would now entail much spiritual work for those who have found their rest in Christ (those who believed to be saved).


So, why do some, today, still worship on the 7th day of the week and others on the 1st day of the week? And why do people blame Constantine for changing the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday, when no such information of him doing so is found in the scriptures?

There is nothing in the Bible to tell us to observe the Sabbath, since Christ abolished the Law (Romans 10:4; Romans 7:6),

Here's one:

Exodus 20:8
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

It's a sin to break one of the ten commandments.

Although sin no longer controls our salvation, we should still do our best to avoid sinning.

I'm talking about Christians. Once Jesus abolished the Law (that includes the ten commandments and many other laws) Christians were not responsible for observing the Sabbath. You speak of the Law covenant with Israel, which has been abolished by Christ's death. It would help if you would read all of the Bible and not just parts of it. No one can avoid sinning, and that's why Christ died for us. He took each one of ours places when he died. We can avoid deliberately sinning, so you are right there.

[onewithhim]

The Jews' first day of the week is different from ours. They went by the days of their calendar which is different from the calendar we use.

Even if that's the case, what does today's calendar have to do with the one of 2000 years ago?

Exactly. That is my point. Our calendar doesn't match the calendar that Jesus and other Jews used. He didn't rise on Sunday (our calendar). It was Nisan 17, which falls on different days from one year to the next. Neither did the Jews observe the Sabbath on a Sunday. Our calendar has little to do with the calendar of the Jews.

[rstrats]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #18]

re: "Exactly. That is my point. Our calendar doesn't match the calendar that Jesus and other Jews used. He didn't rise on Sunday (our calendar)."

I don't understand why you keep bringing up our calendar. The frame of reference for this topic is 2000 years ago.


re: "It was Nisan 17, which falls on different days from one year to the next."

If you're saying that the resurrection occurred on Nisan 17, how do you know that it didn't fall on the first day of the week that year?



re: "Neither did the Jews observe the Sabbath on a Sunday."

Who said that they did? I don't see what you're getting at.

[2ndpillar2]

God has ordained that the Sabbath be the day of worship. In the Old Testament period, God declared the 7th day to be the Sabbath day, but when Christ rose from the dead, God ended the era of 7th day Sabbath observation which entailed physical rest and instituted the first new era of Sabbaths to take place the Sunday Christ arose. This Sunday Sabbath would now entail much spiritual work for those who have found their rest in Christ (those who believed to be saved).


So, why do some, today, still worship on the 7th day of the week and others on the 1st day of the week? And why do people blame Constantine for changing the day of worship from saturday to Sunday, when no such information of him doing so is found in the scriptures?

Constantine, the emperor of Rome, declared in 321 A.D., that the day of his sun god, Sol Invictus, Sunday, be made the day of rest, whereas all shops were to be closed, such that you could not buy or sell on the day of the sun, Sunday. Constantine was the 7th head of the beast (Rev 17), whose number of his name is 616 (Rev 13:18). As for mention of Constantine in "scripture", go to Daniel 7:24, whereas a "different" king will arise and "intend to make changes in the law". As for "Scriptures", you will find variable opinions on what is truly "scripture", but for the most part, Constantine's declaration was made later then the supposed scriptures were written. As for when the official canon of the Roman empire's New Testament was made, that was done in 367 A.D. by the bishop Athanasius. As for the false prophet Paul's mentioning the first day of the week as per eating a meal, well, not only is that a stretch of the imagination as regards making Sunday a day of rest, but it is also contrary to the actions of Yeshua and his original apostles. Also, it was done by the false prophet Paul, whose message, per Mt 13, is the message of the devil, and for which the many will follow (Mt 7:13-15) to their "destruction".