THE FALSE DOCTRINE OF "THE AGE OF ACCOUNTABILITY"

[Eddie Ramos]

It's interesting that this is another widely held doctrine by Christians, yet no one has ever put forth an actual age from the scriptures where children are not accountable for their sins. The fact is that when God looks at a human being, he looks at their heart and sees either righteousness or unrighteousness. If righteousness, then that means that Christ's atoning work has been applied to your life. At which point he has given that person a new and perfect heart that is free from sin, and has raised their dead soul to eternal life. If God sees unrighteousness in their heart, then it means that Christ's atoning work has not (or not yet) been applied to that individual and that individual is still in his or her sins. This applies from the moment of conception.

Psalm 51:5 (KJV 1900)
Behold, I was shapen in iniquity;
And in sin did my mother conceive me.

Can something conceived in sin be pure and clean in the eyes of God? The Bible says, no.

Job 14:4 (KJV 1900)
Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? Not one.

So, how does God view a child conceived and still unsaved? The same way he views a grown up who is still unsaved, as wicked.

Psalm 58:3 (KJV 1900)
The wicked are estranged from the womb:
They go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

Most will say, "babies can't speak, so this can't be referring to babies". Yet this is parabolic language (as is the whole Bible) which is speaking of the spiritual condition (as viewed by God) of mankind who was yet in his sins.

When the Bible as a whole is taken into acount, it absolutely contradicts and therefore rejects such doctrine of any age of accountability. But why then was it invented? Because it was build upon another false doctrine, the free will doctrine which states that a person must make an informed choice if he is going to accept Christ. And since babies can't do that, they had to find a way to make them exempt. But this goes to show what happpens when someone tries to build upon a crooked foundation, everything else they build on that foundation will also be crooked.

My question for anyone who hold to this doctrine is, can you show me how the scriptures you use to support such doctrine agree witht he above Bible verses provided? Because if we isolate passages from the Bible as a whole, then we can make them say anything we want.

[myth-one.com]

The lake of fire is the second death.

It is the second death for humans. It only applies to beings which can die.

Anyone who is "cast" there will never have life again. They/it will be gone forever.

Wrong. The Devil will be there for ever and ever.

"Hell" and death are cast into the lake of fire. (This is symbolic, I think you would agree. How can anyone cast "hell" or death into anything?

After the last human nonbeliever is cast into the lake of fire and quickly dies, there are no longer any living human beings. Thus, death and the grave (hell) are no longer a possibility. So death and hell are dead.

The same for Satan. The lake of fire is symbolic of annihilation.) They will be no more....non-existent. Just like the devil and his demons.

God claims the Devil is tormented day and night for ever in the lake of fir -- not annihilated. I'll agree with God.

The everlasting life for Christians is bestowed upon them at the end of the Millennial Reign. That is why it is said that they "come to life" after the thousand years.

Deceased and living Christians will gain everlasting spiritual bodied life at the Second Coming.

You have previously stated that some believers are resurrected during the Millennium.

So now you have backed off of that mistake. That's progress, I guess.

[onewithhim]

The lake of fire is the second death.

It is the second death for humans. It only applies to beings which can die.

Anyone who is "cast" there will never have life again. They/it will be gone forever.

Wrong. The Devil will be there for ever and ever.

"Hell" and death are cast into the lake of fire. (This is symbolic, I think you would agree. How can anyone cast "hell" or death into anything?

After the last human nonbeliever is cast into the lake of fire and quickly dies, there are no longer any living human beings. Thus, death and the grave (hell) are no longer a possibility. So death and hell are dead.

The same for Satan. The lake of fire is symbolic of annihilation.) They will be no more....non-existent. Just like the devil and his demons.

God claims the Devil is tormented day and night for ever in the lake of fir -- not annihilated. I'll agree with God.

The everlasting life for Christians is bestowed upon them at the end of the Millennial Reign. That is why it is said that they "come to life" after the thousand years.

Deceased and living Christians will gain everlasting spiritual bodied life at the Second Coming.

You have previously stated that some believers are resurrected during the Millennium.

So now you have backed off of that mistake. That's progress, I guess.

I haven't backed off of anything. All the dead who ever lived and then died will be resurrected during the Millennium. That is what I have been saying. They will be resurrected back to physical life on the Earth where they will be able to interact with animals who will not hurt them ("and a child shall lead them"---Isaiah 11:6-9). This does not describe people who are spirits.

[myth-one.com]

All the dead who ever lived and then died will be resurrected during the Millennium.

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (I Corinthians 15:22-23)

All, every human who ever died, will be resurrected or made alive again according to the above verse.

All dead Christians (they that are Christ's) will be resurrected at the Second Coming (at his coming) -- according to the verse above.

Christians who are alive on the earth when Jesus returns will be born again as spirits and meet Him in the air -- according to the verse below:

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (I Thessalonians 4:17)

At this point in time, there are no longer any human Christians. All have been changed into spiritual bodied beings equal unto the angels.

They will then spend the Millennium with Christ:

...and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (Revelation 20:4)

All remaining deceased humans are nonbelievers, and they will be resurrected as humans after the Millennium according to the verse below:

But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. (Revelation 20:5)

So every dead human is accounted for -- every dead believer will be resurrected at the Second Coming and every dead nonbeliever will be resurrected after the Millennium.

And no one was resurrected during the Millennium -- according to these scriptures.

[onewithhim]

All the dead who ever lived and then died will be resurrected during the Millennium.

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (I Corinthians 15:22-23)

All, every human who ever died, will be resurrected or made alive again according to the above verse.

All dead Christians (they that are Christ's) will be resurrected at the Second Coming (at his coming) -- according to the verse above.

Christians who are alive on the earth when Jesus returns will be born again as spirits and meet Him in the air -- according to the verse below:

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (I Thessalonians 4:17)

At this point in time, there are no longer any human Christians. All have been changed into spiritual bodied beings equal unto the angels.

They will then spend the Millennium with Christ:

...and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (Revelation 20:4)

All remaining deceased humans are nonbelievers, and they will be resurrected as humans after the Millennium according to the verse below:

But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. (Revelation 20:5)

So every dead human is accounted for -- every dead believer will be resurrected at the Second Coming and every dead nonbeliever will be resurrected after the Millennium.

And no one was resurrected during the Millennium -- according to these scriptures.

You're missing the point. You also are forgetting that there are two groups of Christians. The anointed ones who will reign with Christ in heaven are taken to heaven before Armageddon. That is the first resurrection. The second resurrection takes place during the Millennium when all of the billions of people will be resurrected back to life on Earth. They "come alive" after the Millennium and after Satan is destroyed because the ones who stayed faithful to Jehovah will then get everlasting life. They truly "come alive" at that time because they have gained everlasting life, not because they were resurrected at that time.

[myth-one.com]

You're missing the point. You also are forgetting that there are two groups of Christians. The anointed ones who will reign with Christ in heaven are taken to heaven before Armageddon. That is the first resurrection. The second resurrection takes place during the Millennium when all of the billions of people will be resurrected back to life on Earth. They "come alive" after the Millennium and after Satan is destroyed because the ones who stayed faithful to Jehovah will then get everlasting life. They truly "come alive" at that time because they have gained everlasting life, not because they were resurrected at that time.

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (I Corinthians 15:22-23)

Who are "they that are Christ's" in the verse above?

Are they the "anointed" or the "unanointed" or both?

[onewithhim]

You're missing the point. You also are forgetting that there are two groups of Christians. The anointed ones who will reign with Christ in heaven are taken to heaven before Armageddon. That is the first resurrection. The second resurrection takes place during the Millennium when all of the billions of people will be resurrected back to life on Earth. They "come alive" after the Millennium and after Satan is destroyed because the ones who stayed faithful to Jehovah will then get everlasting life. They truly "come alive" at that time because they have gained everlasting life, not because they were resurrected at that time.

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (I Corinthians 15:22-23)

Who are "they that are Christ's" in the verse above?

Are they the "anointed" or the "unanointed" or both?

They are the anointed brothers of Christ.

[myth-one.com]

You're missing the point. You also are forgetting that there are two groups of Christians. The anointed ones who will reign with Christ in heaven are taken to heaven before Armageddon. That is the first resurrection. The second resurrection takes place during the Millennium when all of the billions of people will be resurrected back to life on Earth. They "come alive" after the Millennium and after Satan is destroyed because the ones who stayed faithful to Jehovah will then get everlasting life. They truly "come alive" at that time because they have gained everlasting life, not because they were resurrected at that time.

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (I Corinthians 15:22-23)

Who are "they that are Christ's" in the verse above?

Are they the "anointed" or the "unanointed" or both?

They are the anointed brothers of Christ.

If "they that are Christs" are the anointed brothers of Christ, and only they are resurrected at the Second Coming, then the "unanointed Christians" do not belong to Christ, since they are not resurrected at the Second Coming.

I've always thought all Christians belong to Christ.

Am I wrong?

[onewithhim]

You're missing the point. You also are forgetting that there are two groups of Christians. The anointed ones who will reign with Christ in heaven are taken to heaven before Armageddon. That is the first resurrection. The second resurrection takes place during the Millennium when all of the billions of people will be resurrected back to life on Earth. They "come alive" after the Millennium and after Satan is destroyed because the ones who stayed faithful to Jehovah will then get everlasting life. They truly "come alive" at that time because they have gained everlasting life, not because they were resurrected at that time.

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (I Corinthians 15:22-23)

Who are "they that are Christ's" in the verse above?

Are they the "anointed" or the "unanointed" or both?

They are the anointed brothers of Christ.

If "they that are Christs" are the anointed brothers of Christ, and only they are resurrected at the Second Coming, then the "unanointed Christians" do not belong to Christ, since they are not resurrected at the Second Coming.

I've always thought all Christians belong to Christ.

Am I wrong?

I have explained that non-anointed Christians will be resurrected during the Millennium Reign when Christ and his anointed brothers rule over the billions of physical people on the earth. Both anointed and non-anointed Christians belong to Christ. They are, in essence, one flock with one Shepherd (John 10:16). For all intents and purposes, both of the groups, the "little flock" and the "other sheep" make up one flock, as subjects and friends of Jesus.

[myth-one.com]

Both anointed and non-anointed Christians belong to Christ.

Then they will all be resurrected at the Second Coming according to God almighty:

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (I Corinthians 15:22-23)

I'll have to side with God on this one -- He should know.

Do you believe that all resurrected Christians will then spend the Millennium with Jesus?

If so, then it is impossible that any Christians will be resurrected during the Millennium as you claim, as those resurrected during the Millennium cannot spend the Millennium with Jesus.

They would spend less than a thousand years with Jesus. It's simple math.

[onewithhim]

Both anointed and non-anointed Christians belong to Christ.

Then they will all be resurrected at the Second Coming according to God almighty:

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (I Corinthians 15:22-23)

I'll have to side with God on this one -- He should know.

Do you believe that all resurrected Christians will then spend the Millennium with Jesus?

If so, then it is impossible that any Christians will be resurrected during the Millennium as you claim, as those resurrected during the Millennium cannot spend the Millennium with Jesus.

They would spend less than a thousand years with Jesus. It's simple math.

No, all resurrected ones will not spend the thousand years with Jesus in heaven. The non-anointed ones will enjoy life here on the earth, during the Millennium and thereafter.

"The righteous will possess the earth, and they will reside forever upon it." (Psalm 37:29)