JW's claim of Kingdom of God establish in 1914?

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JW's claim of Kingdom of God establish in 1914?

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What was the date of this claim of the Kingdom of God restored in 1914?

What did God do to set up the Kingdom of Heaven?

Is there any record of what he said to accomplish this great event?

Did the JW's originally claim that Christ would come on the date they claimed?

Let us hear your clear answers to the above questions.

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[Replying to 2timothy316 in post #53]

It is clear that you will believe any translation.

You will believe anything put in your hands if it says bible on the cover. Because you think God translated it. And not only that but you have no source of authority. Nothing to use to test what is handed to you.
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[Replying to Eloi in post #60]

How do you know the ones who were believed to be the "one" were not? How do you know they weren't?

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Avoice wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:00 pmIt is clear that you will believe any translation. (...)
I guess you are not getting personal, but talking to all JWs.

I think you have no idea what the person is that real Jews have been waiting for ever since the kingdom of Judah ceased to exist. You probably don't know that the Jews DO call that person Messiah nor why.

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Avoice wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:00 pm [Replying to 2timothy316 in post #53]

It is clear that you will believe any translation.
Don't speak for me. Also, you're wrong.
You will believe anything put in your hands if it says bible on the cover. Because you think God translated it. And not only that but you have no source of authority. Nothing to use to test what is handed to you.
Again, do not speak for me. You do not know me. I never said that God translated the Bible. I never said I trust anything put into my hands. You speak of a source of authority, are you going to make laugh by telling me that source is you?

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Avoice wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:46 pm [Replying to 2timothy316 in post #54]

So God translated and us responsible for the King James Bible?
Nope.
Your remark about God being handicapped when it comes to languages is rediculous . He didn't do the translations
But He can make something that is translatable. You're saying it's not possible. Yet that is exactly what the Jews did when they translated the Law into Greek to make the Septuagint in the 3rd century BCE.

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Avoice wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:42 pm [Replying to 2timothy316 in post #55]

The group of rabbis only translated the five books of Moses. That isn't where we find the errors. The errors are found in the remaining books.
It doesn't matter. The fact is, it was translated. Something you said can't be done. Yet is was. If five books can be translated correctly than all of it can. You have just admitted that something in the Bible can be translated correctly into another language which means your argument that translation into Greek can't be done correctly is void.

BTW there are 24 books are in the Septuagint for which the abbreviation is LXX. That abbreviation means 70 which is it is said how many JEWISH scholars made the translation.

Are these errors you've found based on your novice opinion? Or are they errors found by experts? If so direct me to their work.
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Avoice wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:01 pm [Replying to Eloi in post #60]

How do you know the ones who were believed to be the "one" were not? How do you know they weren't?
You didn't comment on my post #48. Was that because you missed it or something else?

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What was the question and I'll be happy to answer.

I don't like how this forum is laid out. It's too hard to keep track of everything

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Avoice wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:45 pm [Replying to onewithhim in post #67]
What was the question and I'll be happy to answer.

I don't like how this forum is laid out. It's too hard to keep track of everything
I set out an answer to your premise that the Jews weren't looking for THE Messiah 2,000 years ago. I was hoping to get your response to that information. Please go back to my post #48. Thanks. :D

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They were indeed looking for the one who would redeem Israel, end war, build the third temple and gather all the exiles back to the land of Israel etc.

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